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On August 23 2013 05:46 Sn0_Man wrote:
It is likely only one of them scum I suppose but the way they are sucking each other off means that if one is town that particular person needs their head checked.
I've said before, I've had games as town where I have utterly irreconcilable differences with another townie and this could be a case of that but if they are both town then I don't even know what to say.
Iunno, nothing about that pair makes much sense to me tbh.
@Oats: Who da eff is scum then if it isn't some large portion of FT/VA the "I don't need to look like town" players or Koshi/Rayn the "Maybe if we shout loudest the thread will believe us" siamese twins.
PS: Can anybody explain unshakeable town reads from N0? Because rayn and koshi are pulling those out bigtime. Like, not only are they joined at the hip, but rayn has a variety of other "100% town" reads on way way too many people. It doesn't make any sense at all.
Have you commented on Koshi and Rayn's various accusations of me?
What do you think of those? Do you think those don't make sense?
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snoman is angry because we have a strong voting block already with koshi, vayne and probably FT. All of which are town. Oats will pick that up sooner or later. We'll see what happens then.
Look at what Darthpunk had to say btw. He is the only one who is confirmed town. Who were his suspects. WoS, Sno, Rainbows. Rainbows was somewhat dropped as a suspect i guess, but not totally. Rainbows has also made sense this phase. WoS hasn't done shit besides trying to push FT and then dropping it off. Does anyone think snodude looks better than he did on N0? I certainly do not, he looks way worse. Both him and WoS are unable to give reads on each other with reasoning. WoS has been trying, from the start of the game, figure out Sno's alignment "because that has been so hard" and has yet to draw any kind of conclusion. Whenever i ask Sno anything about WoS he completely dodges the question and moves on to other subjects. I even asked the guy to make a case on me, his scummiest read. He failed to do so. Then both of those guys accuse me of doing something scummy, which they do in the same post. How much more scummy can you be in this game?
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Koshi just parrots rayn.
Rayn's accusations are founded on essentially his claim that you tried to shut down thread discussion N0 when you should have learned better from an old game. Following which according to him you refused to "answer" his accusations.
I mean, you could have played better N0 maybe but rayn went berserk over not much and hasn't calmed down ever since. Iunno, I was in your first NMM so maybe I just have too low an opinion of your play but so far as I've seen you have been your normal townie self, if not necessarily a shining beacon of towniness then at least you aren't playing overly scummily then expecting me to never question you or something.
I kinda wish we would have less people spamming the thread with questions though. Don't just ask other people "well what do you think of X/Y/Z?" but rather TELL THEM WHY XYZ is scummy or not scummy. That goes out to a lot of people lol. Don't ask others to scumhunt for you, freaking get active and figure stuff out. Then tell others.
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eh im up for lynching sno.
##unvote
##vote sno
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Quick kush, vote for whoever is the safest vote at the time!
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On August 23 2013 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Quick kush, vote for whoever is the safest vote at the time!
Wait now kush is mafia? A few minutes ago he was perfectly fine as he was voting with you.
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lol rayn, nice jumping to conclusions there.
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On August 23 2013 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Quick kush, vote for whoever is the safest vote at the time! Wait now kush is mafia? A few minutes ago he was perfectly fine as he was voting with you.
Where'd I call him mafia lol.
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On August 23 2013 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Quick kush, vote for whoever is the safest vote at the time! Wait now kush is mafia? A few minutes ago he was perfectly fine as he was voting with you.
Don't put words in his mouth Rayn.
Bad bad play.
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On August 23 2013 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Quick kush, vote for whoever is the safest vote at the time!
What is this comment supposed to mean if you do not think he is mafia? Explain. Also explain why you made the comment.
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On August 23 2013 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Quick kush, vote for whoever is the safest vote at the time! What is this comment supposed to mean if you do not think he is mafia? Explain. Also explain why you made the comment.
It was supposed to mean that I've noticed kush is literally voting for the safest vote in the thread, and every time the wind blows he swaps to the newest safe vote. That is what it means. Incedentally, thats pretty much what I said the first time.
Why do you feel the need to question every post I make? Was I wrong? Has kush not changed votes quite a few times? Has kush ever gone out on a limb and voted somebody controversial? Has kush even justified any of his votes? lol.
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snoman makes me laugh
he cant be scum
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So what's the conclusion?
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well crazy id still vote for but he seems more modkill/vig territory.
Rayne is so confident in his read on FT that FT kind of has to be town.
If rayne is wrong I will get to laugh at him post game so that makes it win/win.
So yeah I'm just gonna sheep rayne and vote sno. HE could be scum I guess.. don't really see anything that points one way or the other but I suck at d1 scumreads so w/e
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Mr. Evul Snowman. I don't understand why you are so surprised that both me and rayn are not liking you tbh. I do agree that we are buddying up on you and WoS but we have both expressed pretty well why we are after you 2.
Now let me again explain to you why we are at least not liking you. Are you playing like this as scum? Or as town? I am leaning scum. Also for reasons stated in this post that you never replied to. I really don't like shit like that because I made the effort to look in all your games, comment on that, you reply to me, I point out a contradiction in that reply, and you ignore me entirely.
I shall again say that I am the self aware miller. Your reaction to my claim was saying I was 100% scum, which I don't understand at all, why instantly jump to that conclusion? While your actual reasoning comes over a lot less certain in post like this. So you type 100% certain scum, please vigi shoot this scum but when you type out your reasoning you are very insecure: "makes a certain amount of sense" "could be doing something similar" "if there is no other miller claim".
Another really interesting thing is how you started going so fanatically after rayn. Nothing suggest you are really suspicious of rayn or disliking rayn his playstyle. You are even having good conversations with rayn here and here.
So there is basically no bad blood between you and rayn, even though rayn is a bit grilling you, you have no problem at all with it. Then out of fucking nowhere these quotes:
On August 21 2013 05:00 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2013 04:36 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 21 2013 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2013 04:04 Koshi wrote:On August 21 2013 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2013 03:59 Koshi wrote:On August 21 2013 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol. third scum in the bag. I hope it is the sn0wman? What makes you say that? Well it's mufassa, kush, the snowman or me. Kush and that evil guy from the Lion King doesn't seem very scummy. Do you agree on what i said on snodude or not? What post of yours are you referring to here? there was no post. was trying to bait Koshi saying something in case he was mafia. :D nothing to see here. ooooor you forgot that you posted it in the scum QT for koshi to read? Just a possibility
On August 21 2013 05:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
For the record, Koshi is full of it and I'm more than a little suspicious that rayn scumslipped not so long ago.
Your follow up on those 2 quotes was this case on rayn.
Since then you have never looked back and just went with rayn & Koshi are scumbros.
All this is just pretty bad. Especially if you admit that you think of yourself as somebody who is terrible at reading people and his strenght is analyzing vote patterns and flips. And like I have said, in those 4 town games I read you never were this radical in your thinking.
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I'm back ^^
Caught up in the thread, but definitely need to read filters to get scumreads down (yesterday was spent sleeping off a rather bitchy mood). I'm in bed, recovering from a dentist visit, so expect a new vote from me soon.
Oh, and Koshi. Mufasa is the good guy in the Lion King :D
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On August 23 2013 06:47 mkfuba07 wrote:
I'm back ^^
Caught up in the thread, but definitely need to read filters to get scumreads down (yesterday was spent sleeping off a rather bitchy mood). I'm in bed, recovering from a dentist visit, so expect a new vote from me soon.
Oh, and Koshi. Mufasa is the good guy in the Lion King :D
I know D: Scar is the evul guy.
I wanted to post a cool picture of you in the thread and paint your ears red. But then I saw my mistake and was deeply ashamed as it is on of the first movies I saw in the cinema when I was little.
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+ Show Spoiler [spoilered for length] +On August 23 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote:Mr. Evul Snowman. I don't understand why you are so surprised that both me and rayn are not liking you tbh. I do agree that we are buddying up on you and WoS but we have both expressed pretty well why we are after you 2. Now let me again explain to you why we are at least not liking you. Are you playing like this as scum? Or as town? I am leaning scum. Also for reasons stated in this post that you never replied to. I really don't like shit like that because I made the effort to look in all your games, comment on that, you reply to me, I point out a contradiction in that reply, and you ignore me entirely. I shall again say that I am the self aware miller. Your reaction to my claim was saying I was 100% scum, which I don't understand at all, why instantly jump to that conclusion? While your actual reasoning comes over a lot less certain in post like this. So you type 100% certain scum, please vigi shoot this scum but when you type out your reasoning you are very insecure: "makes a certain amount of sense" "could be doing something similar" "if there is no other miller claim". Another really interesting thing is how you started going so fanatically after rayn. Nothing suggest you are really suspicious of rayn or disliking rayn his playstyle. You are even having good conversations with rayn here and here. So there is basically no bad blood between you and rayn, even though rayn is a bit grilling you, you have no problem at all with it. Then out of fucking nowhere these quotes: Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 05:00 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 21 2013 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2013 04:36 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 21 2013 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2013 04:04 Koshi wrote:On August 21 2013 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2013 03:59 Koshi wrote:On August 21 2013 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol. third scum in the bag. I hope it is the sn0wman? What makes you say that? Well it's mufassa, kush, the snowman or me. Kush and that evil guy from the Lion King doesn't seem very scummy. Do you agree on what i said on snodude or not? What post of yours are you referring to here? there was no post. was trying to bait Koshi saying something in case he was mafia. :D nothing to see here. ooooor you forgot that you posted it in the scum QT for koshi to read? Just a possibility Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 05:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
For the record, Koshi is full of it and I'm more than a little suspicious that rayn scumslipped not so long ago. Your follow up on those 2 quotes was this case on rayn. Since then you have never looked back and just went with rayn & Koshi are scumbros. All this is just pretty bad. Especially if you admit that you think of yourself as somebody who is terrible at reading people and his strenght is analyzing vote patterns and flips. And like I have said, in those 4 town games I read you never were this radical in your thinking.
First you announce to the thread that SAM is a dumb role because it should claim immediately. Then, after some "should survivor claim" arguments that went for a while you bust out with "JK I'm confirmed town because I'm the self aware miller".
Yep that made sense... Not. Your argument that you wanted to get the threads thoughts on a self aware miller claim looked a lot more like "well I made sure nobody else was the SAM, so then I could claim it". While it is possible that you are in fact the SAM it really struck me as far more likely that you were scum.
Then rayn went off on a spree of accusing literally every person in the thread who had contributed anything (except you) of being scum. So I was like "wtf is with this guy?". Then rayn pulls this garbage that you quoted where he asks you about a post that doesn't exist in the thread. SO I WONDER WHERE IT EXISTS? SURELY NOT THE SCUM QT... his excuse being that he wanted to catch you (his biggest buddy and the only person in the thread he hasn't called scum) in some kind of scumslip or something? Yeah. Right.
Aaaanyways, then you use my "meta" of being "superb town" (your word not mine) combined with it being N0/D1 and me not having caught scum yet or something to mean I'm scum myself. If I'm such great town sheep me lol. Like you literally shout my praises everywhere as a town player then decide that since I don't agree with you this game it makes me scum.
Meanwhile if I target you I'm tunnelling (clear scum tell according to you) if I target others I'm wishy washy (clear scum tell according to you) LOL. You guys seriously don't like me because I'm the only person trying to move the thread forward.
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-So you don't believe that my first statement was a disguised question rather than my actual opinion. Why else am I scum?
-Again, I can see why that play by rayn confuses you. But that is why you call him scum? You never stated before that you had a problem with the way rayn acted.
-I followed up on that -> your mindset is superb town, not your reads. While your mindset this game is extremely narrow. Comment on that please. Where you ever so extreme convinced you found scum instantly in those towngames I mentioned?
-Yeah the world is against you.
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