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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 21 2013 20:47 GMT
#831
On August 22 2013 05:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 01:59 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 22 2013 01:57 Koshi wrote:
Who knows how DP plays?
I just checked his profile and seems like he has a 14-4 record. That is quite impressive but I have a hard time believing that the 4 guys that kush mentioned as possible scums went for him.

Anybody played a lot of games with DP?


what do you mean? why woulnd't that scumteam kill him?
I think any scumteam would have killed him regardless of his reads. I think he was by far the best town in the game.


anyone else find this post really suspicious?

Especially the last part.

I think he's right. I don't necessarily think he was the best town in this game, but it's certainly correct to assume scum would kill him off regardless of reads.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#832
Also I read Sn0, and I honestly can't make heads or tails of him right now. Where is he anyway?

His filter is full of him making strong accusations but the manner in which he does so is....disconcerting I guess?
Something is off and I don't know what it is.
Sn0 do you still think Koshi and Rayn are scum? An answer to this question I feel will be very important as to how the rest of the thread treats you today.

Right now I think I may just want to lynch Crazometer for his reaction to my 'no-talk' idea and the fact that he supposedly can't 'keep up' with me?

It looks like he's trying to make it seem like an attempt at putting effort/reads in when he hasn't commented on anything at all the entire game. I'm aware he's a lurker but it's what I got right now.

Also I remember having a bad feeling that kush is actually doing a little something this game---I remember reading a thread recently where he actually played a game and was mafia. (Like much in this game apparently, I may be misremembering though) Kush are you one of those players who hates rolling town?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 21 2013 20:55 GMT
#834
##Vote: Crazometer
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 21 2013 21:04 GMT
#836
Why do you think this Vayne?
Also speaking of alignment comparisons, reading Sn0 got me thinking about Rayn and Koshi.
I sincerely doubt that they are both scum considering Koshi has been basically playing the part of Rayn's lickspittle all game.
I really want to see what Sn0 has to say when he comes back.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 21 2013 21:22 GMT
#841
On August 22 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why do you think this Vayne?
Also speaking of alignment comparisons, reading Sn0 got me thinking about Rayn and Koshi.
I sincerely doubt that they are both scum considering Koshi has been basically playing the part of Rayn's lickspittle all game.
I really want to see what Sn0 has to say when he comes back.


Not something worth revealing yet. Helps scum more than it helps town atm.

@mkfuba

in roulette you said you like to play a defensive game as town.

Why in this game do you feel the need to be very aggressive?

your play resembles basterd mini a lot more than roulette right now so I was just wondering what's going on.

Is this your promised 'D2 town reveal?'

About fooba dooba: I agree that his activity and posting resembles that of Basterd, but I wouldn't call his play aggressive in the slightest. What has been aggressive about it?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:04 GMT
#881
On August 22 2013 08:10 Rainbows wrote:
Lol scumteam theories pre-flip in my head about WoS / mkfuba

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 14:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 14:49 kushm4sta wrote:
@mkfuba why would you write that wall of text (tldr btw) about your townreads...
i want to know who you think is scum and why

lol and you wonder why I want you policy shot/lynched.
How in any way are you ever a useful member of a town?



Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why do you think this Vayne?
Also speaking of alignment comparisons, reading Sn0 got me thinking about Rayn and Koshi.
I sincerely doubt that they are both scum considering Koshi has been basically playing the part of Rayn's lickspittle all game.
I really want to see what Sn0 has to say when he comes back.


Not something worth revealing yet. Helps scum more than it helps town atm.

@mkfuba

in roulette you said you like to play a defensive game as town.

Why in this game do you feel the need to be very aggressive?

your play resembles basterd mini a lot more than roulette right now so I was just wondering what's going on.

Is this your promised 'D2 town reveal?'

About fooba dooba: I agree that his activity and posting resembles that of Basterd, but I wouldn't call his play aggressive in the slightest. What has been aggressive about it?


It's such bad play but it's so juicy and tempting.

Now wait a minute. Association reads are dumb on their own but are you insinuating that because I told fuba that I appreciated the fact that he somewhat caught on to what I was doing, we must both be scum?

Congratulations for coming up with what would be the absolute most retarded scumplay of all time.

I actually want to go back and consider those who decided both me and Rayn were town though---I think it was Yamato/Oats/Fuba? Usually a pretty decent scumplay to pull that 'voice of reason' shit and neither yamato nor Oats have done a hell of a lot this game so far.

Yamato, scumread?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:04 GMT
#884
On August 22 2013 08:58 kushm4sta wrote:
you have scumreads yet yamato?

Oh shit I think kush is town.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:10 GMT
#896
On August 22 2013 09:07 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 08:10 Rainbows wrote:
Lol scumteam theories pre-flip in my head about WoS / mkfuba

On August 21 2013 14:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 21 2013 14:49 kushm4sta wrote:
@mkfuba why would you write that wall of text (tldr btw) about your townreads...
i want to know who you think is scum and why

lol and you wonder why I want you policy shot/lynched.
How in any way are you ever a useful member of a town?



On August 22 2013 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why do you think this Vayne?
Also speaking of alignment comparisons, reading Sn0 got me thinking about Rayn and Koshi.
I sincerely doubt that they are both scum considering Koshi has been basically playing the part of Rayn's lickspittle all game.
I really want to see what Sn0 has to say when he comes back.


Not something worth revealing yet. Helps scum more than it helps town atm.

@mkfuba

in roulette you said you like to play a defensive game as town.

Why in this game do you feel the need to be very aggressive?

your play resembles basterd mini a lot more than roulette right now so I was just wondering what's going on.

Is this your promised 'D2 town reveal?'

About fooba dooba: I agree that his activity and posting resembles that of Basterd, but I wouldn't call his play aggressive in the slightest. What has been aggressive about it?


It's such bad play but it's so juicy and tempting.

Now wait a minute. Association reads are dumb on their own but are you insinuating that because I told fuba that I appreciated the fact that he somewhat caught on to what I was doing, we must both be scum?

Congratulations for coming up with what would be the absolute most retarded scumplay of all time.

I actually want to go back and consider those who decided both me and Rayn were town though---I think it was Yamato/Oats/Fuba? Usually a pretty decent scumplay to pull that 'voice of reason' shit and neither yamato nor Oats have done a hell of a lot this game so far.

Yamato, scumread?


What? You didn't read those quotes, did you.

On August 22 2013 08:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 08:10 Rainbows wrote:
Lol scumteam theories pre-flip in my head about WoS / mkfuba

It's such bad play but it's so juicy and tempting.

Hahaha so true. I keep rereading that "omg you understand me completely mkfuba" post by WoS. But there is probably nothing :D.

Yes, but the above was Koshi's post. Explain to me how your quotes show that fuba and I must be scum together and how that makes any sense in the face of me talking to fuba?

And FT, read my first post of today.
I didn't fully retract my case on Rayn, but no one seems to want to listen to me regarding him, and I didn't want to shit up yet another day's worth of thread trying to push him. I have reason to suspect him still but I want to see what else the thread brings. You can call my vote on Craz a safe placeholder for now if you want, since I wouldn't mind lynching him.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:12 GMT
#899
On August 22 2013 09:10 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato why did you not dare to oppose my WoS case before DP died?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702

So many people can't read.


Reading this post (linked) actually makes me think Yamato is town.

Why?
Decently easy as scum to come up with a lot of shit on a lot of people.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:17 GMT
#907
On August 22 2013 09:15 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:10 Rainbows wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato why did you not dare to oppose my WoS case before DP died?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702

So many people can't read.


Reading this post (linked) actually makes me think Yamato is town.

Why?
Decently easy as scum to come up with a lot of shit on a lot of people.


But he doesn't have to make that post as scum. He can just let the shitfest between you and Rayn continue and say nothing provided you both are town. He also has a level of pissoffery that I don't associate with scum typically.

The context you stated certainly makes sense, the tone of the post is fairly easy to replicate as scum.
Yamato, I still want to know who you want to lynch today.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:21 GMT
#910
On August 22 2013 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:17 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato why did you not dare to oppose my WoS case before DP died?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702

So many people can't read.

rofl
As for the Rayn/WoS situation, I'm not sold on the WoS=scum theory. Rayn's entire case is based on the idea that a person should always play as they do as town given a similar situation. Funny enough, it is the SAME rationale DP used to accuse Rayn, yet was ultimately dropped. Do I need to explain why these meta reads are fucking terrible or can we all agree to stop being bad and scumhunt with more conventional means?

This is not opposing anything, this is:
1) misreading my resons to think WoS is mafia
2) casting doubt at multiple direction without taking any clear stance on anything.

There's a very clear stance. I don't think WoS is scum. Are you that thick?

Okay, if that is true why do you in the very same post question WoS about other stuff he has done? Do you usually like to question your townreads randomly? In a tone that does not even sound like you think they are town?

I question him because I don't think you're scum either?

Have you just not read my filter at all? Most people seem to understand that I've been attempting to get you two to stop arguing for most of the game.

Yet, on N0, you did absolutely nothing to tell either one of us why we are wrong. Regarding me giving false readings from the case itself does not make me stop. For WoS you telling him "rayn is too batshit insane to be mafia"is not going to be enough. You actually did not even try to stop us.

And for the record, Rayn hasn't stopped the entire game.
I stopped partway through N0 and stopped after entering thread today, completely independent of anyone else's efforts.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:24 GMT
#912
On August 22 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:15 Rainbows wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:10 Rainbows wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato why did you not dare to oppose my WoS case before DP died?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702

So many people can't read.


Reading this post (linked) actually makes me think Yamato is town.

Why?
Decently easy as scum to come up with a lot of shit on a lot of people.


But he doesn't have to make that post as scum. He can just let the shitfest between you and Rayn continue and say nothing provided you both are town. He also has a level of pissoffery that I don't associate with scum typically.

The context you stated certainly makes sense, the tone of the post is fairly easy to replicate as scum.
Yamato, I still want to know who you want to lynch today.

I'm leaning toward lynching Vayne. I've been waiting for him to become more involved in the thread but it just hasn't happened. His sideline commentary is easy to do as scum. He's also overly preoccupied with thinking that you are 3P. I have yet to see him become engaged with the thread and attempt to push any sort of scumread, quite unlike most of the people who have been considered today as lynch candidates.

Ugh. I seriously don't want to lynch Vayne. He constantly touts that he doesn't get mislynched ever but the fact remains that he is lynchbait all the damn time because of his play.

The problem is I want to say I'm fine to wait until D2 for him to be 'useful' like he says but he's said that before in other games and it doesn't happen. Hell, for all I know it could be a ploy to get some mafia play off tonight? (kinda unlikely but still) I don't think I'm likely to vote him today though.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:26 GMT
#915
On August 22 2013 09:22 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:17 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
On August 22 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato why did you not dare to oppose my WoS case before DP died?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19555702

So many people can't read.

rofl
As for the Rayn/WoS situation, I'm not sold on the WoS=scum theory. Rayn's entire case is based on the idea that a person should always play as they do as town given a similar situation. Funny enough, it is the SAME rationale DP used to accuse Rayn, yet was ultimately dropped. Do I need to explain why these meta reads are fucking terrible or can we all agree to stop being bad and scumhunt with more conventional means?

This is not opposing anything, this is:
1) misreading my resons to think WoS is mafia
2) casting doubt at multiple direction without taking any clear stance on anything.

There's a very clear stance. I don't think WoS is scum. Are you that thick?

Okay, if that is true why do you in the very same post question WoS about other stuff he has done? Do you usually like to question your townreads randomly? In a tone that does not even sound like you think they are town?

I question him because I don't think you're scum either?

Have you just not read my filter at all? Most people seem to understand that I've been attempting to get you two to stop arguing for most of the game.

Yet, on N0, you did absolutely nothing to tell either one of us why we are wrong. Regarding me giving false readings from the case itself does not make me stop. For WoS you telling him "rayn is too batshit insane to be mafia"is not going to be enough. You actually did not even try to stop us.

I told both of you that your reasons for thinking the other were scum were fallacious and argued this point multiple times. I don't understand how poor your reading comprehension is.

But why bother?
Rayn has made it perfectly clear that he feels like tunneling me all game long to the detriment of town atmosphere at times and says this is 'always' how he plays (even though it really isn't ---I have NEVER seen him tunnel a sole read to the bitter end like this). I personally believe this is a new 'persona' he's trying out for whatever reason. Not necessarily alignment indicative but it's not....'true' Rayn.

Anyway why bother engaging him if it won't make him stop?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:28 GMT
#917
On August 22 2013 09:25 geript wrote:
@Rayn.... I'm tired of the WoS shit. You noted differences between games. I see that as meta. You talk about him not wanting to explain himself; having played a billion games with him, I see that as just something Daniel could do. As to him continuing to not engage you, I actually see that as a towny thing for him to do. In the last game we hydra'd he literally said "ITalk to your friend (JJD) b/c I'm done w/ him and his shit." I would completely understand him doing something similar here.

You still scum on Sn0?

Whoa whoa.
What is with the out-of-game/'RL friends'/emotional appeal? You bring up the example of JJD and you're right, but the ONLY time I've ever seen you do something like this is when you wanted JJD to know who you were and used his real name, as our town hydra.

This honestly looks like a crumb you're leaving for me to make me think that you're town specifically BECAUSE you did the same thing here.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:37 GMT
#924
I don't necessarily think you're scum, breh. I'm just telling you what stood out about that post to me, and it just felt super weird. I've already mentioned I could lynch Crazy if that's where you're headed.

Onegu.... I don't know. Really want to see more from him because all that I remember of his early contributions were +1s of basically everything.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:38 GMT
#925
On August 22 2013 09:37 kushm4sta wrote:
Hey I just had a great idea. Let's lynch rayne!

Ugh.
Kush, why? And where did this come from?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:40 GMT
#930
On August 22 2013 09:39 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 09:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't necessarily think you're scum, breh. I'm just telling you what stood out about that post to me, and it just felt super weird. I've already mentioned I could lynch Crazy if that's where you're headed.

Onegu.... I don't know. Really want to see more from him because all that I remember of his early contributions were +1s of basically everything.

Yah I'm leaning Crazy right now but I need to filter a few more people. I'd rather lynch into the lurkers again right now.

Lol see it's this.
I feel like you know I'm going to have a weak spot for wanting to eliminate lurkers based on our last game...gaaaah.
I'm being paranoid now I think.
Carry on.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:47 GMT
#936
I just realized there are a lot of people who haven't given definitive scumreads at this point. (ie 'who are you voting/would you vote for')
We're what, 36 hours into a game? Seems unacceptable imo. Fuba who would you lynch now that you dropped Rainbows?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 00:49 GMT
#940
On August 22 2013 09:46 kushm4sta wrote:
We know Rayne is capable of this because of GoT

This isn't a reason to lynch him.
You know I don't exactly view Rayn in the best light right now---here is your chance. Convince me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 22 2013 06:42 GMT
#969
Nah kush is town.
I feel better about my current vote choice now.
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