On August 21 2013 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi you need to work also on knowing who is left in the game and who is not. Other than that your post is spot on.

w0t? I know DP is dead. Last sentence of my post was paraphrasing the last post of WoS his case.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 21 2013 13:47 GMT

#743

post = part. D:

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 21 2013 14:08 GMT

#744

I'm once again curious if people even read what i post. I read half of the players filters and everyone who commented on my WoS case called it a meta-case while it has nothing to do with meta!

Especially geript needs to elaborate on that. He just brushed the whole thing away because "meta read not accurate" - then said lynch this guy who is new and has posted once. lol.

Also Onegu should have some thought that is actually his own.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 21 2013 14:12 GMT

#745

mkfuba what is your read on Snoman?

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

August 21 2013 14:24 GMT

#746

@rayne, im trying to find your case on WoS but I can't. What page is it on? is it in one post or splattered across your filter like diarrhea?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 21 2013 14:27 GMT

#747

Clearly people did not understand my previous picture. So I improved it a little bit.

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yamato77

11589 Posts

August 21 2013 14:28 GMT

#748

I'm really tired of reading WoS vs. Rayn. I don't think either of you are scum and neither is going anywhere with his case on the other.

Koshi is highly suspect for just jumping on the WoS wagon without so much as a second thought.

yamato77

11589 Posts

August 21 2013 14:31 GMT

#749

Also

##Vote Kushm4sta

He's my placeholder lynch candidate.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 21 2013 14:31 GMT

#750

On August 21 2013 23:28 yamato77 wrote:
I'm really tired of reading WoS vs. Rayn. I don't think either of you are scum and neither is going anywhere with his case on the other.

Koshi is highly suspect for just jumping on the WoS wagon without so much as a second thought.

I'll forgive you because you probably didn't see my picture yet. Also, I gave a second thought in the same post as my vote D:

yamato77

11589 Posts

August 21 2013 14:33 GMT

#751

On August 21 2013 23:31 Koshi wrote:

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I'll forgive you because you probably didn't see my picture yet. Also, I gave a second thought in the same post as my vote D:

Your "second thought" isn't to consider that WoS might be town, it is that two other people are scum. It doesn't really qualify as a real second thought about the alignment of WoS. All it proves is that you've moved beyond having no reads into the territory of accusing people already under suspicion.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 21 2013 14:35 GMT

#752

On August 21 2013 23:24 kushm4sta wrote:
@rayne, im trying to find your case on WoS but I can't. What page is it on? is it in one post or splattered across your filter like diarrhea?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521&currentpage=21#402

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 21 2013 14:38 GMT

#753

On August 21 2013 23:33 yamato77 wrote:

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I said he gained some scumpoints. Not that he was 100% scum. How am I 100% certain he is scum.
Also, it was the Snowman who jumped the Koshi wagon after my "fake-claim" who said I was 100% scum.

Just saying. No need 2b hating.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

August 21 2013 14:41 GMT

#754

On August 21 2013 23:31 yamato77 wrote:
Also

##Vote Kushm4sta

He's my placeholder lynch candidate.

WHY

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 21 2013 14:41 GMT

#755

yamato, my main point about WoS is that when i ask him "Why did you bring up the same anti-town thing you did in CCM?" his immediate answer is "Show me how i am playing different than in CCM".

That's not even what i was asking about. Why would a townie be concerned if he plays to his town meta or not? Because he obviously does. That response of his directly proves that he is aware he is doing something he did in another game in a same manner. Scum wonder about these things, not townies.

Also his explanation for the whole mess is bullshit. "Hey i played anti-town in purpose and now i am calling out people who called me out for my anti-town play". Don't you see how full of shit that explanation is? He basically says he has purposely wasted 24 hours of everyone's time with something that does not help anyone find mafia.

Also Koshi is the sole person in this thread that seem to get this.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

August 21 2013 14:41 GMT

#756

On August 21 2013 12:37 kushm4sta wrote:
k im done reading!

I want to lynch either FIRMTOFU or ONEGU

FT all he has done really is made this post:

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On August 21 2013 10:04 FirmTofu wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

My overall thoughts:

WoS and geript seem to have some sort of mutual camaraderie based on past games and the friendship they have formed through their hydra. Therefore, you can expect them to play irrationally when speaking of one another. I think we should make note of this.

WoS is a real funnybunny. I don't like any of his opinions on how to handle N0. On this topic, rayn wins the argument handily. Remaining quiet on N0 is definitely mafia-favored play. There is no reason to silence ourselves when discussion is the greatest asset we have. However, I don't think this is as damning as rayn says it is. WoS looks scummy, sure, but his play is equally likely to be bad town as it is to be scum.

Geript's meta indicates that geript may be scum this game. Town geript usually attacks and pushes like a monster. Geript this game has been relatively subdued.

Vayne is not posting much and is not looking particularly scummy. Knowing Vayne, this is quite odd. Town Vayne usually likes to look scummy so that he won't get NK'd until endgame. Vayne in this game looks nothing like town Vayne.

Koshi is looking scummy and stupid. Whenever Koshi looks scummy and stupid, he flips town. See: Titanic and all of his other town games. Whenever he is spot on with his reads and looks like he knows what he is doing, he flips scum. At best, he's a good vigi shot right now. Lynching him is not a good course of action.

Kush is basically Koshi divided by 2. He just posts less, but his playstyle is very similar. Thus, he is also probably not the best lynch right now.

After GoT, I'm not sure how to read rayn anymore. I thought I had him figured out after Titanic and his scum play in I Swear 2, but he played a solid scum game in GoT and threw me off. For the time being, he remains a volatile player that is more likely to hurt town than help it. I would not mind a vig shot on him, but I am finding it hard to read him right now. Saving for later.

That's all I want to talk about for now. If anything else comes up, I'll be sure to let you know.

basically he is saying everyone is sort of scummy for vague meta reasons. ok

ONEGU
I want to lynch him for his constant regurgitation of thread sentiment. He never expresses any idea that has not already been expressed.
GUIZ HE'S WATCHING HIS SICK KID! like that is some sort of excuse? That means you should have more free time not less. Sick kid you sit them in front of the TV or something gg.

Yeah so he attacks me and FT.

First FT first post was fine and I got a townie feeling from it not scum.

And for me you attack me for no reason, I was already getting attacked from a few people for makeing posts that only add my thoughts to a existing arguement which is fine, but you jumping on me for this post when someone was talking about me disappearing is scummy.

Also you say you are ok with a WoS lynch just because its good for rayne or lolz rayne is wrong. Then you say its a bus if WoS scum? Why do you feel that way?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

August 21 2013 14:42 GMT

#757

On August 21 2013 23:41 kushm4sta wrote:

Show nested quote +

WHY

You didn't "liked" the picture I uploaded. Blame the facebookgeneration.

yamato77

11589 Posts

August 21 2013 14:51 GMT

#758

On August 21 2013 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato, my main point about WoS is that when i ask him "Why did you bring up the same anti-town thing you did in CCM?" his immediate answer is "Show me how i am playing different than in CCM".

That's not even what i was asking about. Why would a townie be concerned if he plays to his town meta or not? Because he obviously does. That response of his directly proves that he is aware he is doing something he did in another game in a same manner. Scum wonder about these things, not townies.

Also his explanation for the whole mess is bullshit. "Hey i played anti-town in purpose and now i am calling out people who called me out for my anti-town play". Don't you see how full of shit that explanation is? He basically says he has purposely wasted 24 hours of everyone's time with something that does not help anyone find mafia.

Also Koshi is the sole person in this thread that seem to get this.

The bolded is not necessarily true. Town should think about their thread image just as much as mafia. Just because someone is concerned with how this game compares to their past town games does not make them mafia. It makes them aware of how they are playing.

The underlined is not the truth. He thinks he sniffed out a scum player who was bluefishing. It's useful in his eyes. You think it's a waste of time because he's accusing you. I can believe that WoS as town honestly thought he could actually catch scum this way.