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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
August 21 2013 05:40 GMT
#701
Because I'm getting really tired and likely won't be up for the daypost, this is pretty much all I've been thinking about today:

I'm not really convinced of either WoS or rayn being scum. I answered WoS's question the way I did because he seemed to be suggesting that something big was coming, which in my mind always means some kind of reveal. I'm not sure what that could be, other than a roleclaim. Thus the theory was born. It feels like their cases against each other can be summed up as "town WoS didn't feel like answering a question" and "town rayn got annoyed that WoS didn't answer his question". I can certainly see how each case could describe the other person's actions as though they're scum, but I don't really see why the town explanation isn't simpler. As it is now, I'd probably guess both as town due to how many times I've seen this kind of townie v. townie fighting D1. And the fact that neither wagon (even though we haven't really started voting yet) picked up a whole lot of steam throughout the night kind of makes me think I'm right. I guess we'll see more when D1 actually starts.

The only person I've actually had reasonably strong scum feelings for this game has been Rainbows. It started when both rayn and DP claimed to have seen something that made them sure he was scum, at a time when it seemed to me as though rayn and DP were likely different alignments themselves. This may have skewed my view towards him too strongly towards scum, but I think it could still be right. I looked into his filter and found this post:

On August 21 2013 01:20 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2013 01:12 Rainbows wrote:
Koshi and Rayn are probably town. I think Darthpunk is being stupid by wanting to lynch the miller claim. He's at best a vig shot--unfortunately that is not indicative of Darthpunks alignment. Sn0_man likes to passively finger point at people and is probably scum.

I propose you read the whole thread before commenting.


All I've seen is a bunch of nonsense about survivor/miller claiming, a real claim, and a case on WoS. From the impression I get, Darthpunk seems to be driving the potential lynch on Koshi. Sn0_man seems to +1 the idea and just roll with it. DP is much more vindictive about the issue, which hopefully means he's town as well. The idea that he is 'all-in' on WoS right now seems like too obvious the contradiction for scum to make.

TL;DR -- people that talk a lot, hopefully they flip town.

The bolded section makes me feel like he *knows* that Koshi is green. It seems like he knows those who are pushing Koshi will look guilty in the event of his lynch. It's as though he's saying, "even though DP lynched Koshi, the push seemed genuine so he's probably town," but phrased before the fact. When I first found this I felt so sure that I was right, but I later realized that he could just be really, really sure that Koshi is town, and finds it scummy that anyone would push him when that's so obvious. This made me doubt my read. But on the other hand, he still suggests that Koshi is a viable vig shot (in the nested quotes above), which is at odds with a "definitely town" read. Ultimately, he seems to know more than he should and when I try to explain his post from a town perspective I find contradictions.

Anyone think I'm way off? And rayn + DP: What was the evidence that you're now unsure of?

+ Show Spoiler +
Good night!
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 21 2013 05:49 GMT
#702
@mkfuba why would you write that wall of text (tldr btw) about your townreads...
i want to know who you think is scum and why
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
August 21 2013 05:53 GMT
#703
How do you know it's about townreads if you didn't read it?
And I've already said who I think is scum in the post that you didn't read.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 21 2013 05:55 GMT
#704
On August 21 2013 14:49 kushm4sta wrote:
@mkfuba why would you write that wall of text (tldr btw) about your townreads...
i want to know who you think is scum and why

lol and you wonder why I want you policy shot/lynched.
How in any way are you ever a useful member of a town?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 21 2013 06:10 GMT
#705
oh ya sry i just read it lolz
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 21 2013 06:42 GMT
#706
Poor Rainbows. But I really agree with that case. If only you didnt want to shoot the Koshi.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 21 2013 08:17 GMT
#707
Silent night, holy night,
All is calm, all is bright
Round yon virgin mother and child.
Holy infant so tender and mild,
Sleep in heavenly peace.
Sleep in heavenly peace.

Silent night, holy night,
Shepherds quake at the sight,
Glories stream from heaven afar,
Heavenly hosts sing alleluia;
Christ the Savior, is born!
Christ the Savior, is born!

Silent night, holy night,
Son of God, love's pure light
Radiant beams from thy holy face,
With the dawn of redeeming grace,
Jesus, Lord, at thy birth.
Jesus, Lord, at thy birth.
I had a good night of sleep.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
August 21 2013 09:59 GMT
#708
Night 0 ends in approximately 1 hour. Remember to send all night actions to all hosts.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 21 2013 10:01 GMT
#709
If I die.

Plz look at Rainbows and Sn0_man

Town - Kush, Oats, Rayn, Koshi

Everyone else is null or mildy scummy.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 21 2013 10:11 GMT
#710
thats such a bad deathpost dp
No gg, No skill.
Crazometer
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia45 Posts
August 21 2013 10:17 GMT
#711
Hey guys, forgive my absence it was pretty late when I posted and I was tired. In the future I'll refrain from posting just to say hi. To give everyone a bit of background, in the past my friends have chastised me from going full ryan/sn0w aka throwing accusations at everyone. It was causing too much chaos and making me seem like a serial liability. There were many occasions when I presented a bullet-proof case to have the third party disbelieve me and cause a town loss. As most people on TL would know if something isn't working for you then you should try something else.

Begin super strat v2
-Engage in enough discussion that everyone knows you are alive
-Watch people closely
-Do not tell people that they are being watched, lest they alter their behaviour
-When an iron--clad, heck even just credible, case can be presented tell the world
-Only attempt to direct power roles when armed with a specific strategy and high level of certainty
-Should the conversation stagnate, then break above rules to get the ball rolling

On the upside in the meantime I've been able to garner a fair bit of information about the TL atmosphere and should now be able to aim my posts more appropriately. Any q's send them this way and I'll answer when they don't conflict too heavily with the above rules (I am happy to talk about myself). If that doesn't butter your biscuit then I am sorry. =(

Crazo out
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 21 2013 10:24 GMT
#712
whos scum? And what do you think about WoS case on Rayn and Rayn's case on WoS?
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 21 2013 10:38 GMT
#713
A picture says more than a thousand words.

[image loading]
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 21 2013 10:42 GMT
#714
claiming scum koshi?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2013 10:47 GMT
#715
WoS defenceis full of shit.

So i saw something scummy, point that out and. WoS agrees that it was scummy, does not answer me in any way and is now trying to twist the fact around that "rayn thought i was blue and therefore wants me dead".. lololol. Bad defence. Bad. And now he claim vanilla. Accomplishes what? He is mafia.

Snodude accuses everything gut pushes nothing. Just like in his scumgame that he quoted to me. Rainbows does not see that "when he was specifically asked to look at the game" lol, Rainbows also does not talk about impotant things in thread despite reading it. Maybe i am wrong about geript, i dunno. I would think he is bright enough to understand what my case on WoS is about. His recent posting is much better but i got no time to reread any more.

Kill WoS asap!
Then kill the other dudes, watch for geript.

vayne, Oats, yamato, kush, Koshi, DP town.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 21 2013 10:57 GMT
#716
Rayn, so you think WoS is bullshitting about his supposed gambit? What makes you think that?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2013 10:58 GMT
#717
Oats re-check your role PM, in case you are a doctor. ^_^
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2013 10:59 GMT
#718
On August 21 2013 19:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, so you think WoS is bullshitting about his supposed gambit? What makes you think that?

Because what he says is full of shit. He only came up with it when fuba helped him out. And no, i do not think fuba is mafia for that. I think WoS found a possible way out of his shitty situation because of what fuba said, now he has "proof" at least someone thought like that.
table for two on a tv tray
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
August 21 2013 11:00 GMT
#719
Night 0 has ended. No talking until the day post is up.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2013 11:01 GMT
#720
Why would you distract the town like that if you were town? My case is 100% legit and holds water. Wos knows it because his only defence is "rayn is mafia and thinks i am blue".
Bad.
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