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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 21 2013 15:29 GMT
#781
WoS I want you to answer him too, now that I understand the case.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2013 15:31 GMT
#782
On August 22 2013 00:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn if I answer you this one time, will you stop shitting up the thread with this? You are effectively killing all other discussion and whether or not you think you've found scum, killing discussion is bad for town. Otherwise I have no reason to engage you.

Especially since you stated yesterday you were done talking to me, am I right?

So you are not giving me a chance to try to get a better read on you (which in your opinion should be beneficial to town, if you are town)?

I am not killing discussion. I am trying to promote it by saying someone should bring up another suspect if they feel like you are not the best lynch.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 21 2013 15:33 GMT
#783
I think rainbows is the best lynch but I can't really right a case for it or anything -_- just a gut feeling
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2013 15:34 GMT
#784
On August 22 2013 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think rainbows is the best lynch but I can't really right a case for it or anything -_- just a gut feeling

Do you think snoman is town?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 21 2013 15:40 GMT
#785
On August 22 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think rainbows is the best lynch but I can't really right a case for it or anything -_- just a gut feeling

Do you think snoman is town?


null right now, I've been over his filter and he looks more like a player that you can feel out since he's all over the place with accusations and comments. I need to see a lot more than what he's written so far.

he said onegu was sheeping town sentiment which is kinda just a lazy buzz phrase but I could see either alignment doing that since I don't know how he plays yet.

Finding a SAM claim to be a scum claim is pretty odd given the circumstances. It's a potential death sentence for no reason if you get CC'ed.

he has a little back and forth with rainbows and I doubt they could foresee us thinking of them as partners that early in the game, so I don't think they are both scum.

That's about it for me.
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2013 15:42 GMT
#786
On August 22 2013 00:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think rainbows is the best lynch but I can't really right a case for it or anything -_- just a gut feeling

Do you think snoman is town?


null right now, I've been over his filter and he looks more like a player that you can feel out since he's all over the place with accusations and comments. I need to see a lot more than what he's written so far.

he said onegu was sheeping town sentiment which is kinda just a lazy buzz phrase but I could see either alignment doing that since I don't know how he plays yet.

Finding a SAM claim to be a scum claim is pretty odd given the circumstances. It's a potential death sentence for no reason if you get CC'ed.

he has a little back and forth with rainbows and I doubt they could foresee us thinking of them as partners that early in the game, so I don't think they are both scum.

That's about it for me.

I kinda think he is himself guilty of everything he accuses people for..
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 21 2013 15:42 GMT
#787
On August 22 2013 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 00:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn if I answer you this one time, will you stop shitting up the thread with this? You are effectively killing all other discussion and whether or not you think you've found scum, killing discussion is bad for town. Otherwise I have no reason to engage you.

Especially since you stated yesterday you were done talking to me, am I right?

So you are not giving me a chance to try to get a better read on you (which in your opinion should be beneficial to town, if you are town)?

I am not killing discussion. I am trying to promote it by saying someone should bring up another suspect if they feel like you are not the best lynch.


You're right about that.
Fine, but I am not discussing or defending myself from you all day, I promise you that. I'm still in the middle of reading Sn0_Man.

The reason I brought up CCM is because I brought up 'no-talk' in there once early in the game and then didn't dwell on it after that. I fully planned on doing the exact same thing here but for different reasons (the ones I mentioned in my case)---I can honestly say I didn't expect to draw the 'AMG WAVE IS SCUM' attention I got from you right off the bat, and knowing you are a smart guy I figured if you were town you'd pick up on the fact that it was simply to get discussion going and see how people would react. If you look at how I reacted when you were grilling me incessantly, I was constantly trying to throw you off of me because I felt like you were ruining what I was attempting to do at the time. I don't feel like that makes sense to do as scum as it becomes incredibly obvious, but take that as you will. As far as being 'worried' about your threats of tunneling me if I don't answer you---I don't respond to threats. Ever. I didn't care then and I still don't care if you push me all day but I DO care if it's to the detriment of town (especially if you turn out to be scum which I at one point believed).

Listen Rayn go ahead and believe what you want about me referring to me CCM meta but if you remember correctly I was blue in CCM 'too' and was trying to bring across the same line of 'blue-thinking.' I REALLY figured you would pick up on this and when you stuck with it constantly and then even brought up me claiming to 'save myself' specifically in thread it set off HUGE alarm bells in my head because I believe a town Rayn would consider that I might be blue and not force me to 'out' myself.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 21 2013 15:47 GMT
#788
WoS Your case on rayn was pretty bad right? Or did you believe everything you wrote when you wrote it?
I had a good night of sleep.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 21 2013 15:51 GMT
#789
On August 22 2013 00:47 Koshi wrote:
WoS Your case on rayn was pretty bad right? Or did you believe everything you wrote when you wrote it?

There is nothing bad about it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 21 2013 15:52 GMT
#790
yamato is being exceptionally useless this game, he isnt pushing anyone and all up in someone's grill
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2013 15:53 GMT
#791
Look. I died early on in CCM, i do not follow games closely after i die. Hell i don't even know how half of the games ended i have played in. I have no idea if you were blue in CCM or not.

Why would i think you are blue here? I certainly do not think (even if you were blue in CCM) you are stupid enough to mimic your blue play so obviously (as you call it). As mafia it is more likely than as green, because you do not want to look scummy. Why would you want to look scummy to people?

If you are mafia in this situation you make an opening post, have a meta backup to provide. Maybe you even get some stupid townies to agree with your idea of no speaking.

I also do not understand why did you respond with your meta-argument, because the question had nothing to do with meta. If i put myself in your town!shoes i would tell me "i answer you when i feel like it", certainly not give an answer that has nothing to do with the question. I notice this kinda stuff.

I would also like to know when you concluded that i am scum bluehunting (that explanation smells fishy in the first place because the matter was discussed with me just a couple of days ago and i even told i also do bluehunt actively as town)?

I would also like to know how on earth the only thing you conclude from N0 thing you pulled off is that "rayn is bluehunting scum because he calls out my anti-town actions"? Really, nothing else?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 21 2013 15:54 GMT
#792
I retract my scumread on Sn0 dude, seems ok town.
So who do I wanna lynch. Hmm.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 21 2013 15:56 GMT
#793
On August 22 2013 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look. I died early on in CCM, i do not follow games closely after i die. Hell i don't even know how half of the games ended i have played in. I have no idea if you were blue in CCM or not.

Why would i think you are blue here? I certainly do not think (even if you were blue in CCM) you are stupid enough to mimic your blue play so obviously (as you call it). As mafia it is more likely than as green, because you do not want to look scummy. Why would you want to look scummy to people?

If you are mafia in this situation you make an opening post, have a meta backup to provide. Maybe you even get some stupid townies to agree with your idea of no speaking.

I also do not understand why did you respond with your meta-argument, because the question had nothing to do with meta. If i put myself in your town!shoes i would tell me "i answer you when i feel like it", certainly not give an answer that has nothing to do with the question. I notice this kinda stuff.

I would also like to know when you concluded that i am scum bluehunting (that explanation smells fishy in the first place because the matter was discussed with me just a couple of days ago and i even told i also do bluehunt actively as town)?

I would also like to know how on earth the only thing you conclude from N0 thing you pulled off is that "rayn is bluehunting scum because he calls out my anti-town actions"? Really, nothing else?

Not nothing else.
I'll get to those eventually.
Rayn, I'm not going to defend myself all day from you.
I gave you an explanation, take it or leave it and move on.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 21 2013 16:03 GMT
#794
after extensive filter diving from this and other games:
onegu looks town
sno looks town
rainboys looks town
wtf
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 21 2013 16:05 GMT
#795
VayneAuthority
Oatsmaster
geript
Sn0_Man
DarthPunk
mkfuba07
FirmTofu
Crazometer
Onegu
Rainbows
kushm4sta
Koshi
raynpelikoneet
WaveofShadow
yamato77

scumteam you better kill me next
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 21 2013 16:11 GMT
#796
Ugh, I don't see why the Snowman looks town. The guy is superextreme in every read. Onegu gives general advice and is a "clear case of scum posting", he was probably going to tunnel him for a while but then decides to tunnel me because I "I scumclaimed" while stating that it was unnecessary for me to scumclaim... Those first 10 posts of him are horrible. The 30 others not much better.

The only reason why I don't want to lynch Rainbows atm is because DP had a good case on him. Which is a silly reason but meh.
I had a good night of sleep.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 21 2013 16:36 GMT
#797
@koshi nothing you said in your last post is indicative of anything.

SNO TOWNREAD HARD DEFENSE
town can have extreme reads. town can flip flop.
nothing about sno looks particularly scummy to me. And there are a few posts that give townfeels.
[QUOTE]On August 21 2013 06:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 21 2013 06:16 Koshi wrote:
So you make a preflip association between me and rayn because rayn doesn't call me scum. lololol.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I'm hoping for a flip so that I can make that association reliable.
This shows naivety I think can only come from town. Especially for a newer player like no.

RAINBOYS TOWNREAD HARD DEFENSE
[QUOTE]On August 21 2013 01:20 Rainbows wrote:
TL;DR -- people that talk a lot, hopefully they flip town.[/QUOTE]
Very townie sentiment. I think the same thing to myself every town game.

[QUOTE]On August 21 2013 01:58 Rainbows wrote:
Lol people calling me scum.[/QUOTE]
Confidence under pressure. And when DP calls you scum that is some scary shit (if you are scum).





OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 21 2013 16:37 GMT
#798
REPOST FOR LEGIBILITY

@koshi nothing you said in your last post is indicative of anything.


SNO TOWNREAD HARD DEFENSE
town can have extreme reads. town can flip flop.
nothing about sno looks particularly scummy to me. And there are a few posts that give townfeels.
On August 21 2013 06:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 06:16 Koshi wrote:
So you make a preflip association between me and rayn because rayn doesn't call me scum. lololol.

Actually, I'm hoping for a flip so that I can make that association reliable.

This shows naivety I think can only come from town. Especially for a newer player like no.


RAINBOYS TOWNREAD HARD DEFENSE
On August 21 2013 01:20 Rainbows wrote:
TL;DR -- people that talk a lot, hopefully they flip town.

Very townie sentiment. I think the same thing to myself every town game.

On August 21 2013 01:58 Rainbows wrote:
Lol people calling me scum.

Confidence under pressure. And when DP calls you scum that is some scary shit (if you are scum).
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 21 2013 16:53 GMT
#799
Yeah, I am not saying that it is impossible to play like that as town. I just feel it should be associated more with scumplay if a player I know nothing about does this.

But the Snowman has around 40 posts tunneling Onegu, rayn and me with the wildest and extreme accusations. I mean... I agree that it was strange when rayn asked me what I thought about his case on the Snowman, but to say that me and rayn just failed a play because I didn't read the Scum QT is a bit too much.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 21 2013 16:57 GMT
#800
Who knows how DP plays?
I just checked his profile and seems like he has a 14-4 record. That is quite impressive but I have a hard time believing that the 4 guys that kush mentioned as possible scums went for him.

Anybody played a lot of games with DP?
I had a good night of sleep.
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