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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 30 2013 16:54 GMT
#2621
I will lynch FirmTofu or Johnny today. They are the remaining scumteam methinks.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 30 2013 16:59 GMT
#2622
Eh, I'm not sold on the D1 lynch. No need for scum to get on that, none of them had a chance of being lynched no matter who they are.

So, Who is alive?
VayneAuthority
geript johnnywup
Sn0_Man - Confirmed town
mkfuba07 - Confirmed town
FirmTofu
Rainbows
Koshi - Confirmed town

2 scum left most likely. so 2 of Tofu/Rainbows/Vayne/Johnny. We have 1 "OK" mislynch before its lylo. If we can get proof of town from any of those 4 we win the game. I'd love to hear more input guys.

@rainbows: I think I can work with that. Really I need to start re-investigating all 4 I've mentioned and see if I can come up with something concrete on anybody. It gets hard when people just AFK.
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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 30 2013 17:00 GMT
#2623
Weird NKs have happened recently. In b4 WTF WIFOM.

We've had Fuba around as confirmed town for two nights. Why wasn't he shot? Mafia thought Rayn / Kush were far larger threats than a confirmed town. Which leads me to believe rayn/kush were on the right track and fuba is on the wrong one.

We only have one confirmed sn0, and that's Fuba. I'm paranoid about Koshi but he's probably town with this bad setup. You aren't confirmed, but i'd rather lynch FT / johnny over you.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 30 2013 17:05 GMT
#2624
And vayne is probably town due to the arguing with Yamato and crazo voting him, he just looks like the mafia punching bag for this game. Unless there is some tricky bussing going on I doubt it's him.

I think Yamato / FT wanted to push my mislynch on D2. Once Rayn said he wasn't interested in voting Yamato, they switched so damn fast. see?

On August 26 2013 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i feel less good about yamato lynch.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Rainbows

On August 26 2013 08:40 yamato77 wrote:
I'd feel more comfortable lynching Rainbows than Onegu. It seems like Onegu is out of commission or something, he hasn't even posted today. Plus, the wagon looks suspect given that it's popped up so suddenly.

##Vote: Rainbows

On August 26 2013 17:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Ok I caught something suspicious in rainbows filter. He voted sn0 very briefly then invited to something stupid that kush said. The unvote wasn't really justified based on his stated beliefs. Looks a lot like a bus.

Also, rainbows has been looking rather diffident since fuba became confirmedish town vig. Looks like he's shooting in the dark, not really doing anything of value to town. I can lynch him. He's definitely a better lynch than Onegu.

##vote: Rainbows


This is also super distancing from an onegu lynch
On August 26 2013 16:53 FirmTofu wrote:
Sn0_man is mafia. Onegu isn't.

I retract all previous accusations of Onegu. Onegu is playing far too differently than his scum games to be scum. Scum Onegu is aggressive and hot-headed. Most of his cases are OMGUS. This game he voluntarily pursued me. He initiate confrontation and pursued it to such an extent that it made him a viable alternative lynch to Yamato. Scum Onegu never plays like this. Scum Onegu doesn't take these kinds of risks.

Sn0_man is totes scum. I cannot believe how much he has gotten away with since he survived the lynch. Scum clearly shifted the tide of WoS/Sn0 wagons. The fact that the wagons were so close is a testament to this fact. Sn0 has been tunneled on a handful of people the entire game. He hasn't bothered to provide reads on anyone else and has been content watching the game from the sidelines making baseless accusation towards rayn and koshi(probably a bus) the whole game.

The , his only post today was a wasted vote towards rayn who is next to impossible to lynch right now. He hasn't done JACK SHIT the entire game and we are gonna lose because no one is fucking realizing this fact.

Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 30 2013 17:13 GMT
#2625
##Vote: FirmTofu

For the crime of being mafia. If you are town, tell me who is mafia and why. Because nothing you've done this game has proven to me that you're town.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 30 2013 17:13 GMT
#2626
If sn0 is mafia and FT town, I am going to facepalm because sn0 seems like he actually gives a damn.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 30 2013 17:18 GMT
#2627
On August 31 2013 02:00 Rainbows wrote:
We only have one confirmed sn0, and that's Fuba. I'm paranoid about Koshi but he's probably town with this bad setup. You aren't confirmed, but i'd rather lynch FT / johnny over you.

We are approaching lylo (though not QUITE there yet). Which means that Town reads are almost as important as scum reads. Which means I'm not accepting this.

If you wish to dispute my confirmed towniness, you *must* come up with a reason for how yesterday's voting went down that includes me being scum because we NEED every confirmed town we can get.

It is quite simple: when there are 2 serious wagons and 1 is on scum, THE OTHER IS TOWN.

I am fully into solve the game mode. I don't care if you don't like some of my posts or whatever. We are at the point where the game is solvable for town and dipshitting around isn't helping. Proving yourself town would go a long way towards winning the game btw so you can start there.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 30 2013 17:19 GMT
#2628
Ok. I was not completely joking about VA. But I wanted to see if somebody would see the same as me in VA filter and it seems like nobody does. I put VA on 50% scum.

So VA could you tell me exactly what you were thinking while making these 2 posts?

On August 27 2013 22:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol what a terrible kill. I was saving my opinion for after night, but I was going to vote rayn today after that sn0_man argument. thank you to scum for dat one

On August 28 2013 05:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
well here have a vote

##vote:sn0_man

toodles

I had a good night of sleep.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 30 2013 17:19 GMT
#2629
A) FT is afk as far as I know and has been for a while
B) FT's old scumreads are me and koshi which is pretty rich. I'm with you though I'd love to hear what he thinks now lol.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 30 2013 17:23 GMT
#2630
On August 31 2013 02:19 Koshi wrote:
Ok. I was not completely joking about VA. But I wanted to see if somebody would see the same as me in VA filter and it seems like nobody does. I put VA on 50% scum.

So VA could you tell me exactly what you were thinking while making these 2 posts?

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2013 22:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol what a terrible kill. I was saving my opinion for after night, but I was going to vote rayn today after that sn0_man argument. thank you to scum for dat one

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 05:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
well here have a vote

##vote:sn0_man

toodles



first one is pretty self explanatory

second one is part of my experiment
I come in for the scraps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 30 2013 17:24 GMT
#2631
On August 31 2013 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 02:00 Rainbows wrote:
We only have one confirmed sn0, and that's Fuba. I'm paranoid about Koshi but he's probably town with this bad setup. You aren't confirmed, but i'd rather lynch FT / johnny over you.

We are approaching lylo (though not QUITE there yet). Which means that Town reads are almost as important as scum reads. Which means I'm not accepting this.

If you wish to dispute my confirmed towniness, you *must* come up with a reason for how yesterday's voting went down that includes me being scum because we NEED every confirmed town we can get.

It is quite simple: when there are 2 serious wagons and 1 is on scum, THE OTHER IS TOWN.

I am fully into solve the game mode. I don't care if you don't like some of my posts or whatever. We are at the point where the game is solvable for town and dipshitting around isn't helping. Proving yourself town would go a long way towards winning the game btw so you can start there.

See I like what you are saying, but when you are scum with johnny/yamato I doubt that you 3 can start a town wagon while there is Kush/koshi on yamato and VA/FT on sn0.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 30 2013 17:25 GMT
#2632
On August 31 2013 02:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 02:19 Koshi wrote:
Ok. I was not completely joking about VA. But I wanted to see if somebody would see the same as me in VA filter and it seems like nobody does. I put VA on 50% scum.

So VA could you tell me exactly what you were thinking while making these 2 posts?

On August 27 2013 22:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol what a terrible kill. I was saving my opinion for after night, but I was going to vote rayn today after that sn0_man argument. thank you to scum for dat one

On August 28 2013 05:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
well here have a vote

##vote:sn0_man

toodles



first one is pretty self explanatory

second one is part of my experiment

FUCK THAT EXPERIMENT.

How I see it.

1) I wanted to kill rayn because he looked bad in that argument with the Snowman.
2) I vote the Snowman.
= This is strange, what was that thing that you saw? Because it must have been something that made rayn scum and the snowman town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 30 2013 17:28 GMT
#2633
Also, you are suggesting the exact same thing like johnny. You know I catched you scummers in Sicilian for suggesting the same thing. If you and Johnny are scum it is also the way too win this game.

Bonus: Yamato was suggesting the same thing.
I had a good night of sleep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 30 2013 17:28 GMT
#2634
On August 31 2013 02:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 02:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 31 2013 02:19 Koshi wrote:
Ok. I was not completely joking about VA. But I wanted to see if somebody would see the same as me in VA filter and it seems like nobody does. I put VA on 50% scum.

So VA could you tell me exactly what you were thinking while making these 2 posts?

On August 27 2013 22:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol what a terrible kill. I was saving my opinion for after night, but I was going to vote rayn today after that sn0_man argument. thank you to scum for dat one

On August 28 2013 05:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
well here have a vote

##vote:sn0_man

toodles



first one is pretty self explanatory

second one is part of my experiment

FUCK THAT EXPERIMENT.

How I see it.

1) I wanted to kill rayn because he looked bad in that argument with the Snowman.
2) I vote the Snowman.
= This is strange, what was that thing that you saw? Because it must have been something that made rayn scum and the snowman town.


indeed for most of the second half of the game i've been thinking snowman is town and i've said that but he kept trying to make me vote for him cuz experiment.

how about we just keep lynching the most useless person, johnny next imo
I come in for the scraps
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 30 2013 17:30 GMT
#2635
On August 31 2013 02:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 31 2013 02:00 Rainbows wrote:
We only have one confirmed sn0, and that's Fuba. I'm paranoid about Koshi but he's probably town with this bad setup. You aren't confirmed, but i'd rather lynch FT / johnny over you.

We are approaching lylo (though not QUITE there yet). Which means that Town reads are almost as important as scum reads. Which means I'm not accepting this.

If you wish to dispute my confirmed towniness, you *must* come up with a reason for how yesterday's voting went down that includes me being scum because we NEED every confirmed town we can get.

It is quite simple: when there are 2 serious wagons and 1 is on scum, THE OTHER IS TOWN.

I am fully into solve the game mode. I don't care if you don't like some of my posts or whatever. We are at the point where the game is solvable for town and dipshitting around isn't helping. Proving yourself town would go a long way towards winning the game btw so you can start there.

See I like what you are saying, but when you are scum with johnny/yamato I doubt that you 3 can start a town wagon while there is Kush/koshi on yamato and VA/FT on sn0.

If you read the VC's in my long post, the development between the first votecount where yam is at 2 and everybody else is at 1 to the 2nd one where I'm the primary lynch candidate with 4 votes includes yamato SELECTING ME AS HIS MISLYNCH OF CHOICE over an easy option like tofu (who in your scenario is town) who he had been calling bad for a while or koshi who already had a (in your scenario) town vote on him and would thus have been pushable to 4 votes almost instantly. There is just no way.

As I said, scum jumped on the chance to sheep confirmed town (fuba) and vote for me, since they are happy to vote for a townie.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 30 2013 17:31 GMT
#2636
imo last 2 scums are between, FT, VA, Johnny


It would be extremely bad if the Snowman is actually scum because he played fucking insanely scummy but random events are helping him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 30 2013 17:32 GMT
#2637
On August 31 2013 02:30 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 02:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 31 2013 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 31 2013 02:00 Rainbows wrote:
We only have one confirmed sn0, and that's Fuba. I'm paranoid about Koshi but he's probably town with this bad setup. You aren't confirmed, but i'd rather lynch FT / johnny over you.

We are approaching lylo (though not QUITE there yet). Which means that Town reads are almost as important as scum reads. Which means I'm not accepting this.

If you wish to dispute my confirmed towniness, you *must* come up with a reason for how yesterday's voting went down that includes me being scum because we NEED every confirmed town we can get.

It is quite simple: when there are 2 serious wagons and 1 is on scum, THE OTHER IS TOWN.

I am fully into solve the game mode. I don't care if you don't like some of my posts or whatever. We are at the point where the game is solvable for town and dipshitting around isn't helping. Proving yourself town would go a long way towards winning the game btw so you can start there.

See I like what you are saying, but when you are scum with johnny/yamato I doubt that you 3 can start a town wagon while there is Kush/koshi on yamato and VA/FT on sn0.

If you read the VC's in my long post, the development between the first votecount where yam is at 2 and everybody else is at 1 to the 2nd one where I'm the primary lynch candidate with 4 votes includes yamato SELECTING ME AS HIS MISLYNCH OF CHOICE over an easy option like tofu (who in your scenario is town) who he had been calling bad for a while or koshi who already had a (in your scenario) town vote on him and would thus have been pushable to 4 votes almost instantly. There is just no way.

As I said, scum jumped on the chance to sheep confirmed town (fuba) and vote for me, since they are happy to vote for a townie.

I agree. Shit keeps happening in your favor.
I had a good night of sleep.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 30 2013 17:35 GMT
#2638
Whys rainbows get the free ride is my question. DP had him as scum wayyyyy back and I haven't caught any real "town" from him yet. He's not my first lynch but I'm working on solving here which requires Confirmed status for me to ignore him.

Otherwise koshi you have it about right FT/VA/Johnny are the rest. It sounds like johnny is the one to go but I'm not sure how much I trust Vayne/Rainbows to tell me that. The fact that scum didn't transfer onto him last vote is really bothering me about him though, makes me more and more interested in lynching him. He's also taken the mega-lurk road which isn't uncommon for newer scum as the game progresses and more actual info and reads show up (aka its harder to bullshit because town have some absolutes to work off of).
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 30 2013 17:40 GMT
#2639
DP also called you scum so i'd be careful what you wish for

Johnny has the highest chance of flipping scum this cycle.

I would never leave fuba alive twice in a row as a confirmed town. Neither rayn nor kush was actually confirmed, I'm not a terrible scum player.
I come in for the scraps
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 30 2013 17:42 GMT
#2640
Hmmm. Read Johnny's filter (its only 3 pages ez). Then tell me if you don't think we could kinda "confirm" him by lynching somebody else today? He was sold on a yamato lynch for a long time although that could be bus, especially given how he kinda last-minute dodged onto onegu. However, he was also going HARD on tofu. I feel like if tofu flips scum then johnny kinda has to be town. The only issue being that if tofu flips town johnny doesn't *have* to be scum, although at that point I find it likely.

Thoughts anybody?

Rainbows is still the wildcard for me.
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