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Koshi
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Koshi
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
What are you talking about the blue beetle? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Anyway, ignore blue beetle. How do you feel about a VA lynch? | ||
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johnnywup
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Look at Vayne his filter, it's useless, there is nothing pro-town, while in Titanic Vayne trolled but had also left and right pro-town tinted posts that were smart and he got killed for it. This game he does a LOT of soft pushing people. He saw a scumslip on Kush, found rayn scummy, said Wos was probably antitown, pushed Onegu slightly, pushed you for that interaction about Crazo, has pushed sn0. The only townreads he gave were the Lion King and me, because of our claims. Then there are 2 things I don't like in his filter. But I am holding those back. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Busses occur but that one would surprise me from a largely inactive/useless yamato. Anyways, I promised vote analysis so that will show up fairly soonish. There is a lot of thread to re-skim to get a feel for exactly how the votes went down (and a lot of cohost filters to peruse for votecounts). | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
It's not like VA was pressuring town to vote yamato the day he was lynched. VA added his vote after the 3 obvious townies and yourself. | ||
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Koshi
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Rainbows
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DAY 1 - TOWN LYNCH WaveofShadow: (7) Raynepelikoneet, Oatsmaster, mkfuba07, kushm4sta, Koshi, Onegu, johnnywup Kushm4sta: (1) Crazometer mkfuba07: (1) Rainbows Sn0_Man: (2) FirmTofu,Waveofshadow VayneAuthority: (2) Yamato77, Sn0_Man Yamato77: (1) VayneAuthority DAY 2 - TOWN LYNCH Onegu: (5) Koshi, Rainbows, mkfuba07, VayneAuthority, Johnnywup Yamato77: (3) Kushm4sta, Onegu, Raynepelikoneet Raynepelikoneet: (1) Sn0_Man Rainbows: (2) Yamato77, FirmTofu DAY 3 - MAFIA LYNCH yamato77: (6) kushm4sta, Koshi, mkfuba07, Sn0_Man, VayneAuthority, johnnywup, Rainbows Sn0_Man: (2) Yamato77, FirmTofu | ||
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
Are you insistent on a Vayne lynch? Why not Sn0_Man or FirmTofu? One of them is certainly scum. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I was gonna analyze the Onegu mislynch but that was led by Koshi/Fuba/Rainbows. I'd be willing to call rainbows scum for it but mostly was koshi/fuba and they are the closest we have to confirmed town so... The Yamato lynch! + Show Spoiler [ First Relevant VC] + On August 28 2013 18:32 Sylencia wrote: Vote Count yamato77: (2) kushm4sta, Koshi Koshi: (1) FirmTofu FirmTofu: (1) Sn0_Man Sn0_Man: (1) VayneAuthority No Vote: yamato77, Rainbows, johnnywup, mkfuba07 Currently, yamato77 is set to be lynched. Next deadline: Deadline date: Thursday, Aug 29 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) + Show Spoiler + haha nice ninja Kush, "Asketh and thou shalt receiveth, and this swiftly" Lol at Yamato not vote and yet snowman- sorry about that Kush and Koshi get it going. This confirms them as town (so does kush's death) since they don't move off. Scum don't really have a counter-wagon going yet. + Show Spoiler [The next relevant VC] + On August 29 2013 13:06 Alakaslam wrote: Vote Count yamato77: (2) kushm4sta, Koshi Koshi: (1) FirmTofu FirmTofu: (1) Sn0_Man Sn0_Man: (4) VayneAuthority, johnnywup: (0) No Vote: Rainbows, johnnywup Currently, Sn0_Man is set to be lynched. Next deadline: Deadline date: Thursday, Aug 29 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Scum have established their counter-wagon. Essentially, upon seeing confirmed town hop on an option (fuba voting me) they all hopped on board. Note that rainbows and johnny don't get a free ride here since they appeared AFK rather than unsure who to vote for. And obviously its not all scum on me. Note also that IF I AM SCUM then this wagon makes no sense. Scum could easily make another lynch option work. As in, Tofu/Johnny/Me/Yam were ALL lynchable so even if 3 of us are scum we can just all pile on the other and likely secure his lynch at this point. The fact that I am the primary wagon here speaks in my favour I think. The 3 posts immediately after this are Kush (confirmed town), Fuba (confirmed town) and I all realizing that this wagon is pure bullshit. Kush is already on yam, me and fuba both instantly unvote and nail yam. Again, note that when fuba moves off of me the vote is 3-3 me-yam. Scum can still very easily create another wagon if both Yam and I are scum. Instead I vote yam, putting him ahead and he never comes back. At this point, it isn't entirely unbelievable that the entire scumteam is on me (although I'm far from certain of it). Immediately thereafter; + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2013 13:56 VayneAuthority wrote: ##unvote vote:yamato77 not worth keeping around if this game ever goes to lylo Vayne jumps on yam with essentially no justification other than bandwagoning and On August 29 2013 15:49 johnnywup wrote: 1=sn0 2=FT 3=yamato http://i.imgur.com/NvRsDWA.png random.org has spoken ##vote yamato so does johnny, once again with no real justification. Rolling a 3 on random.org is clearly not a reason whatsoever as there are so many ways to make it say whatever he wants it to say. (note that while some time has passed from 2nd VoteCount to here it is all on one page of the game, so its not like I'm chopping out important bits). So we arrive at essentially the end votecount: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2013 17:06 Sylencia wrote: Vote Count yamato77: (6) kushm4sta, Koshi, mkfuba07, Sn0_Man, VayneAuthority, johnnywup Sn0_Man: (2) Yamato77, FirmTofu No Vote: Rainbows Currently, yamato77 is set to be lynched. Next deadline: Deadline date: Thursday, Aug 29 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Yamato is clearly hammered and while he doesn't need to move from now on its fairly clear that any vote movement could as easily be scum trying to look good as anything else. The only vote change that occurs is rainbows tossing his vote on yam while saying "taking 0 credit for this". Then yamato dies. MY conclusions (please draw your own as well): 1) I'm not scum. If I were scum both me and yamato were clearly around and could have driven some sort of wagon on a townie, at least for a while. The utter lack of ANY real momentum on anybody not me or yamato is very very telling. 2) Koshi is simply town. I really don't think I can doubt this any more whatsoever. Those are pretty much my hard conclusions lol. I'd expected to be able to figure out more when combining the 2 lynches but it didn't pan out too much. I will say that I think this looks bad for johnny solely because if he was town I think that scum would happily have joined fuba in pushing him very hard and I think they could have secured his lynch. And TBH I probably would have gone along with a johnny lynch over a yamato lynch yesterday so... I feel like that bit is fairly important. I don't really know what to make of tofu's vote on me staying to the end  . I guess its brownie points for him because I'd probably be tearing him a new one right now if he had switched at the last minute. | ||
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VayneAuthority
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Rainbows
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Sn0_Man
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
Koshi and Johnny are the only two non-confirms on the list that voted WoS. Both also voted Onegu, and Vayne is pretty town. So we're lynching Johnny, right? Nothing redeeming about him, eh. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 31 2013 01:45 Rainbows wrote: Rule #26 of mafia: At least 1 scum is always on the town-lynch wagon to ensure it goes through. Koshi and Johnny are the only two non-confirms on the list that voted WoS. Both also voted Onegu, and Vayne is pretty town. So we're lynching Johnny, right? Nothing redeeming about him, eh. A) Your rule is garbage since it doesn't make sense for mafia to do that B) You aren't confirmed either  | ||
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Sn0_Man
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Rainbows
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