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On September 07 2013 07:59 cakepie wrote:
(B) if debears scum, OO scum fake dayvig, this is ridiculously risky and banks heavily on debears getting lynched so that OO gets props for it while also disguising the fake dayvig. slight problem here is that the only way to see OO's poor choice of dayvig shot as a town move is if it were an emotional response. With scum being pretty ahead this game, I don't see why scum would want to make a risky move like this.
Ahhh in what sense is it risky who except Debears or OO was going to get lynched...?
If OO is alive... then Debears got lynched and the fake claim is disguised.
There is No option where OO is alive tomorrow and fake claim gets outed.
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On September 07 2013 08:56 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 08:54 Risen wrote:
The urge occurred to me so it has to of occurred to other people. Don't unvote OO. But I have a post in another window written up that I keep staring at ...
doesnt it have big red button on it marked "dont press this"?
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On September 07 2013 09:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
and oo is dayvig... so debears confirmed town and confirmed dead tomorrow?
I need to check this out by thinking some more....
actually even now !!! debears not confirmed town.
confirmed town is very very hard thing to become
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On September 07 2013 10:00 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 09:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
and oo is dayvig... so debears confirmed town and confirmed dead tomorrow? I need to check this out by thinking some more.... actually even now !!! debears not confirmed town. confirmed town is very very hard thing to become
+ Show Spoiler [factual basis] +On September 06 2013 14:09 ObviousOne wrote:
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##Kill: debears A debars says i have never heard of power to actually post the kill text in the thread but have an private back door to recant secretly... Weird arse but this is Aperture. So I am not actually 1000000% certain. Anyways ignoring that.... (as too basurd (bat shit crazy) even for Axle.) FromMOds day post .hence mod confirmed. "(+3 fate) Once per game you can type ##Kill: <Player Name> in the thread anytime during the day" + Show Spoiler [LOL] + Do note it is weird arse version of faster than light projectile that takes all day to get there... meh I guessing grey is nota physics major... <3 Do note that Fate does actually appear to have changed by 3. (Night3=F3 - Day3=F0) + Show Spoiler [LOL] +Aperture was F0? I usually use F4.5 or more even more. You must geta shitty depth of field at F0. :O perhaps other people did things too so I will ignore that. So yes unless some rather fairly basic assumptions that we all hold are inavlid Debears will die when the role Pm says he will... At tomorrows Lynch.
+ Show Spoiler [Logical analysis] +While it is technically possible for player to specifically play against his Win con lets assume despite any and all evidence that is not true. (Do note I am aware of a game of RL mafia where scum accidentally shot a team mate N1....) + Show Spoiler +(no really: IIRC 1 player didnt understand he was scum from his player card(=PM). played townie all day...didnt open his eyes when it was scums turn to do night actions and scum shot their team mate...) However we will assume OO did not accidentally shoot DB having forgot DB was a team mate. Either OO did not know DB was team mate or DB was in fact at the time not a team mate of OO. Thus OO did indeed shoot someone he believed to be of a different alignment to himself. Debears is thus almost certainly not scumHe could be 3rd party planar survivor dragon with nivanna strike as a breath weapon....
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On September 07 2013 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Shooting a teammate isn't considered playing against ur win condition. Risen would do that as scum.
yes but only if it gets you town cred.... + Show Spoiler +Well I hope that is how it works...
Vivax... yeah Vivax... I hadn't considered the possibilities of what Vivax might do.
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On September 07 2013 12:12 cakepie wrote:
Food for thought: we had a mortician.
I dont eat morticians? Do you think he was really a cannibal? + Show Spoiler [psssst] +Will he give me CJD if I did just nibble a bit?
Sorry just voted below the line in the Australian senate election...
![[image loading]](http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4808362-16x9-512x288.jpg)
That means I filled out this ballot with the numbers 1 to a bazillion....
Normal service will resume shortly
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On September 07 2013 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can dead players be roleblocked?]
I am not a mod...
not sure what your point is.
I am not sure dead players can perform actions... that could be role blocked.
I am likely betting that you cant role block an in transit shuriken.. as that would breaking the intent of
" it travels through time allows you to lull your target into a false sense of security, so that when your attack hits the next day, it will pierce vet or medic protection on the target."
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On September 07 2013 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah okay it makes no sense.
ShiaoPi i meant why do people want to lynch you as you are in the same situation with Felkyr, green check.
Can you tell who the green check is by and who wed lynch if wed lynch if the check turned out eventually to be a lie?
If I tell you I just got an anonymous message that Alak was town... + Show Spoiler +yeah that is silly on purpose, substitute player X of your choice.
No accountability = no check.
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On September 07 2013 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 22:09 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 07 2013 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah okay it makes no sense.
ShiaoPi i meant why do people want to lynch you as you are in the same situation with Felkyr, green check. Can you tell who the green check is by and who wed lynch if wed lynch if the check turned out eventually to be a lie? If I tell you I just got an anonymous message that Alak was town... + Show Spoiler +yeah that is silly on purpose, substitute player X of your choice. No accountability = no check. I am not saying ShiaoPi is town or Felkyr is town. I am questioning the logic that Felkyr is town by the check and ShiaoPi somehow is not.
Sorry. tired I must of misspoke.
I didn't think you were saying either was town.
As I recall it I dismissed both things as junk from my point of view. I regard both checks as irrelevant to me. (as the sources are so plausibly deniable they mean zero.)
Wasnt felkyrs the check that had his role and alignment? but it was made by an anonymous 3rd person in a QT I cant read or have quoted...
Sounded a lot more like a scum role cop trying to look like a cop for cred.. and or to drive mislynches? If he felt he got enough trust.
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On September 08 2013 05:35 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2013 05:09 cakepie wrote:On September 08 2013 03:25 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 08 2013 02:38 Coagulation wrote:
did u just call me a fucking pig? I'M GONNA MAKE YOU SQUEAL LIKE A PIGGIE!! I don't know if or how these codewords are inspired by something or not but MAN IS THAT ONE RATHER APPROPRIATE CODEWORD FOR HIS ACTIVITY/USEFULNESS haha I am also tickled to be crossfire because = cohost lol </silliness> On September 08 2013 04:34 Cephiro wrote:
Can someone update me on this cell thing and whether it relates to any alignment or not as for some reason I do not recall anything of this. See this and then P147 in N2, and then P150-P151 should get you caught up with the basics of what happened here while you were in closed casket I think wrt alignment i believe stutters said something about there being no wincon change when he got recruited. Lol whatever I get to by Greymist, the host I am aspiring to be. In other news I have zero clue wtf is going on in this game anymore. Cephiro weren't we supposed to be doing something?
LOL I am a penguin
Welcome to Aperture.
Looking for scum? (If not that then looking like you are.)
I dont know if his plan is solid or not.
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I believe it is the silent resolution period.....
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On September 08 2013 09:27 Cephiro wrote:
I vig shot Coagulation.
I really wanted to start every day off voting for Coag so as to remind people that if you had shot you could shoot him
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19679200
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Oh... ta.
I need to read some filters... starting with my own.
@WOS
long time ago now I said I untunnelled
I did but I didnt forget.
Later I made this post, pointing out i had read your filter and still didn't understand your reasoning.
link to context
+ Show Spoiler [actual unanswered post] +On September 01 2013 15:28 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 14:57 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2013 14:56 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 01 2013 14:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2013 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:geript town guys. Not voterigger, some role that switches all the votes on you to another target. lol BH again victim of the lynch  Which totally explains why my vote on SHiaoPi was moved. Thanks for your contributions as always Oats. + Show Spoiler +On September 01 2013 08:38 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm not saying you have to think I'm not scum-- I'm just saying, don't oppose AG's plan because you think I'm scum. Instead, explain to him whatever risks you think you percieve that he does not. Don't just say "I don't want the plan to happen" because you can't really stop me from following the plan. You can stop AG from using his power, but you have to explain why you, with your somewhat more limited knowledge of his role than what he has, think it's risky. Then, he'll take that info you've given it and combine it with his private knowledge of what his role does and comes to a decision. If that decision is different than what you'd expect, he probably just knows more about how his role works than the rest of us do, and we have to respect that decision. I am fine with AG's plan for the record. I am just worried about your confidence in going along with it. So was there a good reason you had your vote on Shioapi right at the end of the day? When it was already clear you had expressed your preference to Lynch Shiaopi but it was never going to happen? Not explaining it again. Read my filter. I have. Originally here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19646000you said Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:27 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 01 2013 07:22 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 01 2013 07:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't think I will be changing my vote so you may have to rely on others.
Is there any reason you want your vote parked somewhere like Shiaopi? Already explained it; first of all I think he's scum but since my vote doesn't matter, meh. I don't want to vote for Geript because while I believe he may be telling the truth, I don't trust the way this setup works and I do not want to allow other people to perform actions on me when I have control over someone's ability to do so. you said this subsequently Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am fine with AG's plan for the record. I am just worried about your confidence in going along with it.
and in my filter I explained that my plan was fine even if some of the three were scum yet still even though you "I am fine with AG's plan" you cant swap your vote onto the geript wagon to enable my plan to work? even though I say the thing you are concerned about (BH's confidence in going along with it) is fine. Playing as town is hard... you have to cooperate with people you only probably think are townies...(in this case me and my plan) its the effort to try and do that I am not seeing. That part of playing as town is also hard to fake as scum. So yes even though you have explained that in your filter... I could do with you clarifying why some more. (people reading this exchange ought remember that in my own statistical opinion i tunnel WOS like trojan. So form your own opinions please. Also note I tunnel him in games I am not playing just reading...)
@thread What I am looking for when analysing what happened when i tried make my plan go down is who acted like a townie would. As the situation (me wanting specific 3 votes was unusual as mentioned earlier in my filter scummers were trying to fake stuff they had never done as townie... aka work out how suspicious as a towny they ought be of my weird arse sounding plan.) yes its thin, so is trying to read what happened from the votes on someone that never flipped (geript) when he then redirected the lynch onto someone that hadn't even be a contender.
I still fail to see a towny reason why you voted as you did D1 if you are town.
"So was there a good reason you had your vote on Shioapi right at the end of the day 1?"
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On September 08 2013 12:06 Risen wrote:It means I'm not doing anything relevant in the game and they don't need to sit me anymore. Like seriously wtf why did you fucking idiots shot me I'm 3P. Look at my day 1/2 play.
We could always lynch you instead though...
Not doing stuff, especially when they claim they have an excuse to is just the kind of thing scum like to do.
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On September 08 2013 13:48 Risen wrote:
It is stuck to me and follows me into the dark. It gets activated every night which is why I told scum not to waste a shot the idiots. I need this game to last two more nights assuming no mr cheese lynch today.
WAT?
On September 03 2013 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
oh yeah I had the shattered bell which makes you vet for a cycle and you cant use it more than once. 4 charges and I didnt use it.
As he flipped town are you saying he lied? Oatsmaster, as Kenpachi, has died!
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On September 08 2013 14:13 debears wrote:
Whyyyyyy am I still alive
TBMK
The Shuriken is still travelling it arrives at Lynch time?
Did you want to be dead sooner?
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On September 08 2013 14:19 Risen wrote:
I am keeper of the shattered bell. That's my role. My objective, since any third party looking to screw me likely already knows who I am, is to locate the shattered bell. Once I have located it the next time an item move happens I automatically receive it and use it to protect myself each night. I got incredibly lucky that alaka claimed having it and then died. If that was my role ok awesome, not so hard. HOWEVER, in addition to that I must steal 3 souls from a single individual. N1 I targeted mr cheese. N2 alaka so I could confirm the bell's position. Lady night was mr cheese again. So tomorrow night will be mr cheese the final time and all I have to do is live until night post, as in not get lynched.
I really want to say WAT to that... but no It despite being a shattered bell rings true.
except why are you bothering to tell scum not to shoot at you? or worried when they do?
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On September 08 2013 14:40 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2013 14:34 Risen wrote:
because if scum wastes kp on me and you guys win before I do I still lose But I just wanted to screw you over for good ole times :D Gotta work with me here risen.
+ Show Spoiler +I thought you just wanted to take him as your handmaiden into the beyond...
but sorry I checked my win con again, and I only vote lynch Risen if I think he's MOST likely to flip scum.
@Risen
still not exactly seeing how scum killing town people changes the rate at which we might lynch them(scum).
(According to you)
As they wasted a KP on you that makes the player list 1 larger than it was.
Thus as they shot you it is now harder for town to find scum?
Perhaps you had different idea about what would slow town down...
Also curious why you were concerned town would win quickly when yesterday was the first time we lynched scum and we had not shot Coag yet?
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On September 08 2013 14:48 Risen wrote:
I'm drunk for this shit. I'll figure out how much I've fucked up in the morning
@Risen....
So when you get up please to continue our Conversation.
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