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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 11:19 GMT
#1206
No I'm reading the document of aperture 1 wrong the house was called "house chezinu" whatever I stopped caring dandel.
If you believe in your scumread in hiro why are you not trying to convince anyone and instead being cryptic?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 11:33 GMT
#1210
On August 31 2013 20:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
I wouldnt lynch Kita today cause Im not totally sure, but I think he's scum.
Instead, I am gonna lynch Felkyr, and all of you guys should too.


Alright that's fair.

Felkyr is not a bad lynch, and I'm actually doubting the geript lynch. If there's no flip it'll be really hard to do anything productive until n1 ends.

##Unvote
##Vote Felkyr
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 12:09 GMT
#1216
I dunno Koshi. He explained that he was the first to post and didn't post anonymously. If that is true (and if it wasn't someone would have said so) then his claim makes total sense if we are to assume there are scum or 3p in black mesa.
Why deny town the information when scum likely already have it.
Not sure how that's a big play, unless you're saying you think he's scum.

Dandel I really don't know what you're doing...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 12:18 GMT
#1219
He's in Black Mesa. If we believe his claim (and not believing it would mean everyone in black mesa is anti town) Everyone in there posts anonymously. Onegu said he posted there with his actual name.

So scum likely already know he's in black mesa, yes? So why not claim in thread and give the same information to town?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 12:23 GMT
#1225
On August 31 2013 21:22 Koshi wrote:
Well, that Black Mesa group is/was going to be way bigger than 5(?) people circlejerking with fake names that are all town.


What?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 12:24 GMT
#1226
On August 31 2013 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is pretty important since:
Show nested quote +
Black Mesa: Objective - Unknown


He's already said he has no alternative wincon.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 12:24 GMT
#1227
It's the first fucking thing I asked it's like the post after he claims. Maybe read the thread first rayn
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 12:34 GMT
#1231
On August 31 2013 21:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 21:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 21:22 Koshi wrote:
Well, that Black Mesa group is/was going to be way bigger than 5(?) people circlejerking with fake names that are all town.


What?

They are in the OP. You think that they are in the OP so that Onegu/Stutters can come in the thread and say:

oh hai guis, BM is a mason group, we are totes town and win with town.
PS: there is a 3P in the group with the name Master Yi
GL HF


You think it more likely that every single one of them is anti town and two of them claimed?
Or that Onegu, as anti town, posted without changing his name there, and then decided to claim in thread to give town information?
If you can come up with a scenario where this would benefit anyone but a town onegu please explain.

Maybe there is a third party in there that has a wincon. I can't remember who brought up the idea of an sk in that group that wins when everyone but him in black mesa dies. I don't find it hard to believe that onegu is town. MAYBE he has an alternative wincon that he's not telling us about, but that's about it. Stutters even confirmed Onegu's phrasing of his PM, the infiltrator crap. Way too elaborate to be a big play
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 12:35 GMT
#1233
Let's go back to scumhunting instead. We're not lynching onegu today.
Felkyr is the wagon of justice. geript is probably not a bad shot tonight.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 13:12 GMT
#1245
I actually agree with what people said, if he is unlynchable then we'll be lacking a lot of info and will probably still have to shoot him. My first thought of "worst case scenario is we nolynch" wasn't terrible, but Felkyr has a pretty good chance of flipping scum, whereas I've started to think that it's unlikely that geript isn't unlynchable, regardless of alignment.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 13:36 GMT
#1247
On August 31 2013 22:26 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd still prefer to lynch kita

just sayin


Do you mean Hiro? Because I don't recall you ever saying you wanted to lynch kita.
I think you called him scared because you can read him at some point.... not quite the same
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 13:44 GMT
#1249
Losing track of the random people you're giving scumreads on dandel?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 14:05 GMT
#1252
Dandel claims himself easy to read but I've never seen it that way. In GoT I based my reads on him by what conclusions he was drawing, in GoT I agreed with most of the things he's said. This game is the complete opposite of that.

Here is everything relevant to kita that is in dandel's filter.

On August 30 2013 21:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
yo kita, you should have taken GoT, where you horribly misread me for days for shit reasons, as an oppertunity to improve your play.

Evidently you're not planning on that.


On August 30 2013 21:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
ps: kita just wants me dead because I'm such an incredibly good player and I'm able to read him real good.

Which means he's scared of me reading him with my reading abilities
Which means he's mafia.

OMGUS engaged.

On August 30 2013 21:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 21:56 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 30 2013 21:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
ps: kita just wants me dead because I'm such an incredibly good player and I'm able to read him real good.

Which means he's scared of me reading him with my reading abilities
Which means he's mafia.

OMGUS engaged.


States that I wanted him dead as town in GoT in previous post. Infers that my scum meta is to want him dead because of I fear his abilities. Justifying vote based on false conclusion.

So you're saying you are utterly unable to improve and see the error in your past ways?

On August 30 2013 22:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
kita doesn't want to find scum, he wants to lynch me

he scurred
so scurred


This is not a read. He wants you dead for trolling the shit out of early d1 and being useless, so you think he's scum?
Note that there is a 24 hour gap between those posts and the next one.
Apparently dandel wants us to believe he's stuck with this read throughout day 1 because suddenly he goes:
On August 31 2013 22:26 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd still prefer to lynch kita

just sayin


Is this the same dandel that tunneled the shit out of koshi day 1 in Game of Thrones? No, it's not.
Dandel is giving scumread without explanation, this is what he does as town too. What he doesn't do as town however is sit on the sidelines doing jack shit to get his scumreads lynched.
His style of play is extremely easy to emulate as scum, but dandel isn't an idiot, these conclusions he's drawing are terrible.

He says he's willing to lynch Hiro. I ask him why, he explains in a cryptic as fuck manner, and when I tell him he won't get anyone lynched if he doesn't explain his thought process. Dandel replies to this by saying "it's not really a read that I can explain to others". If that's the case, why the fuck did he try with his cryptic as shit post?

Dandel is just around to make a mess and make him impossible to read, his conclusions are bad and he clearly doesn't care who gets lynched this cycle. Shoot this guy n1, if he's still alive d2 lynch him.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 14:13 GMT
#1254
rayn is voting for felkyr so he's cool
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 21:48 GMT
#1416
Caught up. Felkyr seems to be putting in an effort so I'm fine with him around.
Consolidating I guess, although my kneejerk response was to test the unlynchable claim, the more I thought about it the less it made sense.
I think dandel is a good lynch, but since my case there's been no interest so I don't think I'll get 15 votes. If I'm wrong please let me know, we do have 3 hours left after all.

##Unvote
##Vote geript
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 21:57 GMT
#1429
On September 01 2013 06:55 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 06:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Caught up. Felkyr seems to be putting in an effort so I'm fine with him around.
Consolidating I guess, although my kneejerk response was to test the unlynchable claim, the more I thought about it the less it made sense.
I think dandel is a good lynch, but since my case there's been no interest so I don't think I'll get 15 votes. If I'm wrong please let me know, we do have 3 hours left after all.

##Unvote
##Vote geript


@Clarity
Consolidating is great.

if we have the breathing room please if you think its safe to swap your vote to me at the end.
(see my previous posts)

@everyone (who is town)
unless you have your own plans consolidating is great.
Also if you consolidate then Clarity VE and BH can swap to vote for me.


Oh I kinda forgot about this. Do you need all three of us? And is there a reason you choose those three?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 22:01 GMT
#1431
On September 01 2013 07:00 ShiaoPi wrote:
why am I scum again?


Why does this matter?
You're not getting lynched, time to finally catch up to the game instead of "skimming" it and give us some reads.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 22:08 GMT
#1442
On September 01 2013 07:04 ShiaoPi wrote:
my reads in a large game on day 1 are like 99% useless anyway, because I suck at reading too many players.
Since geript also says that votes today dont matter I am more or less content with just waiting for the nightpost to see what in the actual fuck will happen.


No one is asking you to give reads on 16 people.
I'll take two reads, please.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 22:13 GMT
#1449
On September 01 2013 07:10 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 06:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 01 2013 06:55 AxleGreaser wrote:
On September 01 2013 06:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Caught up. Felkyr seems to be putting in an effort so I'm fine with him around.
Consolidating I guess, although my kneejerk response was to test the unlynchable claim, the more I thought about it the less it made sense.
I think dandel is a good lynch, but since my case there's been no interest so I don't think I'll get 15 votes. If I'm wrong please let me know, we do have 3 hours left after all.

##Unvote
##Vote geript


@Clarity
Consolidating is great.

if we have the breathing room please if you think its safe to swap your vote to me at the end.
(see my previous posts)

@everyone (who is town)
unless you have your own plans consolidating is great.
Also if you consolidate then Clarity VE and BH can swap to vote for me.


Oh I kinda forgot about this. Do you need all three of us? And is there a reason you choose those three?


The stated reason is that I trust you three to get the shenanigans right and correctly allow for vote stealers etc....
aka perceived SKILL

It is not a three or nothing thing. (I wont even cry if I get no votes today)

It is not worth messing up the lynch. (hence a skill requirement)




Alright well I see no reason not to. I'm around at lynchtime. I'll make sure there is a big enough gap between geript and anyone else, and if there is I'll switch my vote to you a bit before deadline.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 23:16 GMT
#1507
On September 01 2013 08:14 Cephiro wrote:
Axle, don't use your power please.


Do you know something I don't?

Axle, does your power backfire if there is more than 1 scum voting for you? You seemed oddly specific that having 1 scum is fine.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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