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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:27 Blazinghand wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424349¤tpage=40#794 of course, I'm assuming you mean a conclusion beyond "cora is sooper butthurt" | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:25 Blazinghand wrote: so you're saying you don't think cephiro is scum any more because I posted a case against him?  I have my doubts considering it's you lol. I remember you talking about your scum play somewhere and you like to make really long meaningless cases since you said people just see "yea long post must be town" Referencing Carnival cruise and town games I've played with you I'm suspicious. You're doing shit though so not like you're in danger of being lynched anytime soon though. I also would not waste my kills on you if I ever get to use it. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:29 VayneAuthority wrote: I have my doubts considering it's you lol. I remember you talking about your scum play somewhere and you like to make really long meaningless cases since you said people just see "yea long post must be town" Referencing Carnival cruise and town games I've played with you I'm suspicious. You're doing shit though so not like you're in danger of being lynched anytime soon though. I also would not waste my kills on you if I ever get to use it. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mOHGjne.jpg) | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: geript is your typical low-hanging fruit / lynchbait townie, as he often is. let me rephrase what you've said here geript: "keeps begging for a gun, has stuck his neck out and stated who he wants to kill, even if he hasn't fully reasoned it though. We're less than 24 hours in the game, and geript is being his usual non-seriosu stuff. He is being very active and trying to at least make some contact with every player!" well shit now he sounds like not a good lynch huh In this paragraph you are simply twisting my words to make me look worse. I said my honest opinion, if you do not agree, feel free to argue otherwise. I feel this is a very relevant sentence: On August 31 2013 01:14 Cephiro wrote: There are many times when the scum player can be found not for his connections, but for the lack of them. If one is town, why would the feel the need of chit-chatting with everyone? Concentrate on what you feel is off, give it strong pressure (not tunneling), and gain more information. Do you not agree it is more useful to pressure someone you consider anti-town rather than talk a little about everything and commit to nothing? + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2013 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: You know who's a good lynch? Cephiro check out dis shit Cephiro claims that he can't deal with a meta of trolls, but doesn't want to admit that to do otherwise is to policy lynch trolling. I'm not saying I'm not down for that, but if you gotta call a horse a horse and say "I dont' like geript's style, so even though I don't think he's scum, I want to lynch him anyways" if that's what your'e doing. You misunderstood. People that have played with me in the past know that I absolutely hate players who are trying to go by "meta" instead of playing the game. It's not like anyone can't change their style on purpose or do something unexpected, or even pretend to do the same as before to mislead others. I have at no point said "I don't think geript is scum". I have clearly come out with my intent of wanting him dead. + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2013 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: His interaction with VA, although it seems at first to be the classic "overzealous townie" style, is in fact far more insidious. Take a look: OK so what is going on here? Well, VA is, well, kinda joking around and posted and acrostic saying "I AM NOT SCUM". Was it worth his time? No. Was it useful to town? No. Is it a scumtell? I don't really see why. The fact that he wrote "i am not scum" rather than "i am town" isn't like a scumslip or anything, that's just how he chose to phrase it. Cephiro is going all lou ferrigno on this guy for phrasing his claim to be town differently. This isn't overzealous townie, this is someone trying to play overzealous townie. overzealous townies cling to hard to certain pieces of evidence, go over the top, and push/tunnel hard, but almost always these pieces of evidence are pieces of evidence that make sense. Cephiro doesn't make sense. The fact that he is loud, or that he tried pushing a relatively defenseless player (geript) should not be mitigating factors. Let's lynch him. ##vote Cephiro I feel like this last point is very lacking. I stated why it seemed anti-town in my opinion. For some it can be a scumtell, for some not. You can never be sure, but the way he acted about it was one of the reasons I felt he is anti-town. Overall BH, I'm a bit disappointed in your case. Could you just not find more things you could try to paint as anti-town or why does it feel that your case is merely throwing a rock in my direction? You didn't even vote for me in the vote thread. It's good to have your eyes open, but if you're looking for anything else than town, you're looking at the wrong direction. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On August 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote: hai guys catching up On August 31 2013 00:06 ShiaoPi wrote: skimmed all over this thread, lets go kill WoS? only one who stuck out for me in this initial read ##Vote: WaveofShadow Maybe this one if it's going to live in a perpetual state of catch-up? It's hard to pick. WOS voted Shiao back, this whole thing kinda went nowhere. Can we get some resolution between you two? Hug it out? Fight it out? 20 paces and draw lightsabers? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_macvfy7oKz1rwwppio1_500.gif) If I ignored everything you did as both alignments then I would just have to ignore you every game since you aren't a dogshit player. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
HiroPro You my evil cousin aren't you? This speech of the brown, yes? You, you mule you, you fool you, you affront The Blazinghand, He Who Is Taciturn (yet has said plenty this game somehow) Such is to incur+ Show Spoiler + Look, a locker. I will store these here. I'll be watching out for you... If she talks maybe as she talks out of myself she will be helpful. the professional hero... I must send one I my children to meet him... Oh no you won't. He could be another lost individual as is myself. His near depth with mine hints at that, who else hangs around in an area condemned midsummer of '61? But he seems stuck in the 50's, I'm up here in the 70's... | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
This gif will convey my innermost thoughts: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gubjrKV.gif) | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:32 Cephiro wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2013 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: geript is your typical low-hanging fruit / lynchbait townie, as he often is. let me rephrase what you've said here geript: "keeps begging for a gun, has stuck his neck out and stated who he wants to kill, even if he hasn't fully reasoned it though. We're less than 24 hours in the game, and geript is being his usual non-seriosu stuff. He is being very active and trying to at least make some contact with every player!" well shit now he sounds like not a good lynch huh In this paragraph you are simply twisting my words to make me look worse. I said my honest opinion, if you do not agree, feel free to argue otherwise. I feel this is a very relevant sentence: If one is town, why would the feel the need of chit-chatting with everyone? Concentrate on what you feel is off, give it strong pressure (not tunneling), and gain more information. Do you not agree it is more useful to pressure someone you consider anti-town rather than talk a little about everything and commit to nothing? + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2013 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: You know who's a good lynch? Cephiro check out dis shit Cephiro claims that he can't deal with a meta of trolls, but doesn't want to admit that to do otherwise is to policy lynch trolling. I'm not saying I'm not down for that, but if you gotta call a horse a horse and say "I dont' like geript's style, so even though I don't think he's scum, I want to lynch him anyways" if that's what your'e doing. You misunderstood. People that have played with me in the past know that I absolutely hate players who are trying to go by "meta" instead of playing the game. It's not like anyone can't change their style on purpose or do something unexpected, or even pretend to do the same as before to mislead others. I have at no point said "I don't think geript is scum". I have clearly come out with my intent of wanting him dead. + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2013 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: His interaction with VA, although it seems at first to be the classic "overzealous townie" style, is in fact far more insidious. Take a look: OK so what is going on here? Well, VA is, well, kinda joking around and posted and acrostic saying "I AM NOT SCUM". Was it worth his time? No. Was it useful to town? No. Is it a scumtell? I don't really see why. The fact that he wrote "i am not scum" rather than "i am town" isn't like a scumslip or anything, that's just how he chose to phrase it. Cephiro is going all lou ferrigno on this guy for phrasing his claim to be town differently. This isn't overzealous townie, this is someone trying to play overzealous townie. overzealous townies cling to hard to certain pieces of evidence, go over the top, and push/tunnel hard, but almost always these pieces of evidence are pieces of evidence that make sense. Cephiro doesn't make sense. The fact that he is loud, or that he tried pushing a relatively defenseless player (geript) should not be mitigating factors. Let's lynch him. ##vote Cephiro I feel like this last point is very lacking. I stated why it seemed anti-town in my opinion. For some it can be a scumtell, for some not. You can never be sure, but the way he acted about it was one of the reasons I felt he is anti-town. Overall BH, I'm a bit disappointed in your case. Could you just not find more things you could try to paint as anti-town or why does it feel that your case is merely throwing a rock in my direction? You didn't even vote for me in the vote thread. It's good to have your eyes open, but if you're looking for anything else than town, you're looking at the wrong direction. You appear to infer that BH has malicious intentions by "twisting your words" and trying to "paint you as anti-town", but you never really come out with an accusation that he is scum. What is your opinion of him? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:36 kitaman27 wrote: You appear to infer that BH has malicious intentions by "twisting your words" and trying to "paint you as anti-town", but you never really come out with an accusation that he is scum. What is your opinion of him? if cephiro's response to my case convinces you he's scum more than my case does, I chuckle and feel a little sad for myself. BUT I'LL TAKE IT! | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:37 VayneAuthority wrote: don't worry, the fact that cephiro even felt the need to respond to that case gives you back some points LOL OH MAN IS IT REALLY TRUE | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:35 Alakaslam wrote: Hey HiroPro You my evil cousin aren't you? This speech of the brown, yes? You, you mule you, you fool you, you affront The Blazinghand, He Who Is Taciturn (yet has said plenty this game somehow) Such is to incur+ Show Spoiler + Look, a locker. I will store these here. I'll be watching out for you... If she talks maybe as she talks out of myself she will be helpful. the professional hero... I must send one I my children to meet him... Oh no you won't. He could be another lost individual as is myself. His near depth with mine hints at that, who else hangs around in an area condemned midsummer of '61? But he seems stuck in the 50's, I'm up here in the 70's... He may be your father, but you are not his son!!! Slay him! | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:37 VayneAuthority wrote: don't worry, the fact that cephiro even felt the need to respond to that case gives you back some points What? I can understand thinking cephiro is more scummy for it (although I don't think he is) but how does blazing's case make him more townie if it's replied to, as opposed to.... not? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:38 Clarity_nl wrote: What? I can understand thinking cephiro is more scummy for it (although I don't think he is) but how does blazing's case make him more townie if it's replied to, as opposed to.... not? it doesn't make blazing more town but it makes cephiro scummier. And I don't see why they would be bussing this early. Cephiro put way too much thought into how to respond to that case, overthinking is a sign of scum in my opinion. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:36 kitaman27 wrote: You appear to infer that BH has malicious intentions by "twisting your words" and trying to "paint you as anti-town", but you never really come out with an accusation that he is scum. What is your opinion of him? Knowing how long he's played here and how good he can be, I'd expect more of him. He clearly twists my words, but that is something that can happen easily when you are trying hard to pressure someone. You start seeing your thoughts as the absolute word and thus twist everything someone says into such matters. I've had a very neutral read on him so far, but his case makes him look slightly worse to me. I wouldn't go as far as calling him anti-town yet. On August 31 2013 03:37 VayneAuthority wrote: don't worry, the fact that cephiro even felt the need to respond to that case gives you back some points In my opinion, a townie should not neglect a case on them however bad it is, especially if some things are painted in a way which could be misunderstood compared to the original intentions. I don't know about you, but in my opinion I'd look much more scummy if I just let it slide by when no-one else seemed to take much note of it. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote: I have an extremely strong town read on Dandel. Like Iamp IC read. Kita's policy lynch is wrong because he said he wanted to policy lynch because Dandel didnt read his role pm when it was obvious it was a joke and dandel clearly read it after that post. I dont see that the interaction with WoS as being alignment indicative for either of them..... So you think that Dandel wrote that post and then withing the minute read his PM and made that capslock magic post? | ||
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