• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:19
CET 15:19
KST 23:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool43Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast ASL21 General Discussion Soulkey's decision to leave C9 JaeDong's form before ASL
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2512 users

Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 - Page 45

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 243 Next
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 30 2013 19:36 GMT
#881
Well I feel like I have a pretty distinct posting style so anyone who has read the QT and paying attention probably could ID me already.

I'm town aligned in Black Mesa also. I'm like 99.9% certain Onegu is town due to this wording "I win with town, but it tells me to be careful in qt as apature science may have infiltrated it.

In the QT we know of a 3P but he claims his wincon is something he could work with either town or scum and still achieve.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 30 2013 19:36 GMT
#882
On August 31 2013 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 03:15 geript wrote:
On August 31 2013 03:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 31 2013 03:07 geript wrote:
BH. You are so like 24 hours ago. Lynch slam.


As arousing as the thought of lynching a readless, unreadable troll is, can you give me your opinion on others in the thread. Namely active people.

Sure: I'd shoot BH, VE and WoS. I'd nuke Oats because he's both scummy and fun to nuke. But meh, I was done for today like idk 12 hours ago so DGAF activated.

He says this as if any fucks were given up to this point. LMAO

Still reading :d

Personally I think he wrote it because he's best acquainted with us throughout his mafia career.
I don't know what that means exactly...

Oh also regarding Geript: it was obvious early on he was trying to get people to talk about numbers, correct? What if HE was given the null talisman? (Although then again if we're worried about giving it away to possible scum maybe that's a bad idea.)

Kita I like you a little better since I came back. Your idea regarding what should be done about Black Mesa makes sense to me---I'm currently trying to come up with a scenario that scum or 3P could game it though. Not sure if it's possible.


twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 30 2013 19:36 GMT
#883
On August 31 2013 04:01 Hassybaby wrote:
What a wonderful time to come back...

VE, why are you playing 2 people this game?

What does this mean?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 30 2013 19:37 GMT
#884
And there is no BM wincon unless it is hidden.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 19:37 GMT
#885
On August 31 2013 00:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
Kita plz. If you're town, DI is a terrible target for a troll policy lynch. Better targets are alakaslam, cep hiro at this point, vayne. But policy lynching dandel is useless since he gives up as scum anyway.


Frankly I'm pretty amazed at the number of people spazzing out at me for a policy lynch 12 hours into the game against a reasonable target. Based on the number of people willing to come to Dandel's defense calling his contributions valid as if he wasn't a complete anti-town troll, it usually points to scum players trying to defend a town player for town cred. Wave calling Dandel one of the most active players in the thread is mind boggling. Even Dandel would probably admit to the fact that he has been completely useless. I'm still not satisfied with Dandel's play so far though, so my vote will remain for now.

I would actually be quite content with most of the names you have listed. Ceph is quite capable so I might be more willing to keep him around past day one, even though he is a better scum player than town player.


Yeah my problem isn't that dandel is contributing and that was one of many weird things from wos. My problem was that he's a bad policy lynch for a townie to propose.


On August 30 2013 21:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 21:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
ps: kita just wants me dead because I'm such an incredibly good player and I'm able to read him real good.

Which means he's scared of me reading him with my reading abilities
Which means he's mafia.

OMGUS engaged.


States that I wanted him dead as town in GoT in previous post. Infers that my scum meta is to want him dead because of I fear his abilities. Justifying vote based on false conclusion.

Also, I just saw this post in your filter. I don't like it. Being amorphous between policy lynch and calling do scum.

Did you want to kill him for policy reasons or did you think he was scum? It feels like it didnt really Maggie to you.

Guys other than Kita: I really think he might be scum. Policy talk is okay but there's a lot of it. The wos attack is like his only solid post. And also this:


On August 30 2013 23:14 kitaman27 wrote:


On an unrelated note, BH has a history of trying to pick fights on day one as mafia to try to spam up the thread. I'm currently suspicious of his intentions.



First, I could d wrong but my impression is tha bh picks fights regardless of alignment, because picking fights and insulting people is like bu's main mode of social interaction (like, that one time he made Cora ragequit the Skype group). That's beside the point though, because what bh has done in this thread is definitely not pick fights. Like, part of the reason I'm suspicious of bh is that he's only called one person bad and that person was corazon; bh declined ve's fight offer over previous games, and now he's being self-deprecating (scum wtf) over the cep hiro case. But Kita just tossing that one liner in there feels to me like throwing suspicion around.


Man why do I think all three of VE, Kita, and bh are scummy now...
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
August 30 2013 19:40 GMT
#886
The biggest gut reaction I had was vayne. His reveal makes no sense to me. Like why reveal it then? Like why mention anything about it at all.
On August 31 2013 01:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I have a very good reason to play very pro-town this game, so get off my nuts ty

already showed in my first post through elegant trickery that i'm not scum

Why does he have to shout to everyone "Hey guys I'm playing pro-town". When the obvious best thing to do was be reasonable and continue scum hunting. He does that immediately after anyways. So that makes me think why reveal at all?

Another thing that struck out to me was
On August 31 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
cephiro, felkyr, obviousone all scum lol

this game is easy so far

cephiro - get softly discredited by multiple people for "caring about the game" when I play differently every game so it's just an excuse to have an opinion. My case is promptly swept under the rug and nobody ever mentions him again until he responds to my post.

Felkyr - how long did it take you to make that entrance post, an hour?

obviousone - Instead of going with town sentiment and finding me scummy he immediately jumps to a 3rd party conclusion since he knows I'm not on his scumteam. Very strange conclusion to draw this early in the game.


Bold mine.
When reading though the thread I don't feel like there was any town sentiment that Vayne was scummy at the time. Did I just read the thread wrong/forgot about it in the 500+ posts I read, or was there actually town sentiment who wanted vayne lynched?
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 19:41 GMT
#887
Oh also

What if hiro and alakazam actually are in a sleeper cell together. Hiding in plain sight. That would be humorous and I see no reason to disbelieve it at this point.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 19:42 GMT
#888
On August 31 2013 04:40 randombum wrote:
The biggest gut reaction I had was vayne. His reveal makes no sense to me. Like why reveal it then? Like why mention anything about it at all.
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 01:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I have a very good reason to play very pro-town this game, so get off my nuts ty

already showed in my first post through elegant trickery that i'm not scum

Why does he have to shout to everyone "Hey guys I'm playing pro-town". When the obvious best thing to do was be reasonable and continue scum hunting. He does that immediately after anyways. So that makes me think why reveal at all?

Another thing that struck out to me was
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
cephiro, felkyr, obviousone all scum lol

this game is easy so far

cephiro - get softly discredited by multiple people for "caring about the game" when I play differently every game so it's just an excuse to have an opinion. My case is promptly swept under the rug and nobody ever mentions him again until he responds to my post.

Felkyr - how long did it take you to make that entrance post, an hour?

obviousone - Instead of going with town sentiment and finding me scummy he immediately jumps to a 3rd party conclusion since he knows I'm not on his scumteam. Very strange conclusion to draw this early in the game.


Bold mine.
When reading though the thread I don't feel like there was any town sentiment that Vayne was scummy at the time. Did I just read the thread wrong/forgot about it in the 500+ posts I read, or was there actually town sentiment who wanted vayne lynched?

Some people wanted to kill him but more didnt, it was sort of a "more likely e bad than scum" situation.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 30 2013 19:45 GMT
#889
EVERYONE SHOULD BE LYNCHING GERIPT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING IN THIS MATTER.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
August 30 2013 19:46 GMT
#890
I realize and remember there were some who were looking at him, but I don't get where he feels like the whole "town sentiment" was out against him. Seems like somebody who takes thing far too personally, or what I'm leaning on a scum playing scared.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 30 2013 19:47 GMT
#891
On August 31 2013 04:46 randombum wrote:
I realize and remember there were some who were looking at him, but I don't get where he feels like the whole "town sentiment" was out against him. Seems like somebody who takes thing far too personally, or what I'm leaning on a scum playing scared.


we've played together before. I was blindalbino in TL mafia II. I can take on many different personalities.
I come in for the scraps
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 30 2013 19:48 GMT
#892
VE. You so funny.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
August 30 2013 19:50 GMT
#893
My gut also said lynch gerpt, since he's pretty much done nothing but throw out random THESE ARE SCUM. With no explanation until he is pressured into giving them. However the timing of his posts gives him a little leeway since it was so early in d1 when honestly there's little else to talk about.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 30 2013 19:50 GMT
#894
On August 31 2013 04:37 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 21:56 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 30 2013 21:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
ps: kita just wants me dead because I'm such an incredibly good player and I'm able to read him real good.

Which means he's scared of me reading him with my reading abilities
Which means he's mafia.

OMGUS engaged.


States that I wanted him dead as town in GoT in previous post. Infers that my scum meta is to want him dead because of I fear his abilities. Justifying vote based on false conclusion.

Also, I just saw this post in your filter. I don't like it. Being amorphous between policy lynch and calling do scum.

Did you want to kill him for policy reasons or did you think he was scum? It feels like it didnt really Maggie to you.


If my policy lynch does something that I deem scummy why does that make it invalid? 1 + 1 = 2, unless acting scummy invalidates policy lynches or policy lynches make it impossible to be scum. You policy lynch to punish anti-town behavior. I'm thinking about moving to WoS at the moment. As for the post on BH, I was simply stating an observation. I don't consider him a lynch target since that post.

Considering vayne decided to claim "if I die, bad things happen to scum", third party makes sense. I'd even be more willing to help his cause if he came clean.

Now that we know that Black Mesa possibly isn't a mafia faction, we may be able to take a look at the earlier discussion to look for additional knowledge. I'll do so when I get home if I remember.


I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
August 30 2013 19:51 GMT
#895
On August 31 2013 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 04:46 randombum wrote:
I realize and remember there were some who were looking at him, but I don't get where he feels like the whole "town sentiment" was out against him. Seems like somebody who takes thing far too personally, or what I'm leaning on a scum playing scared.


we've played together before. I was blindalbino in TL mafia II. I can take on many different personalities.


Oh god, I hated that game. So imbalanced!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 30 2013 19:56 GMT
#896
On August 31 2013 04:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 04:37 strongandbig wrote:
On August 30 2013 21:56 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 30 2013 21:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
ps: kita just wants me dead because I'm such an incredibly good player and I'm able to read him real good.

Which means he's scared of me reading him with my reading abilities
Which means he's mafia.

OMGUS engaged.


States that I wanted him dead as town in GoT in previous post. Infers that my scum meta is to want him dead because of I fear his abilities. Justifying vote based on false conclusion.

Also, I just saw this post in your filter. I don't like it. Being amorphous between policy lynch and calling do scum.

Did you want to kill him for policy reasons or did you think he was scum? It feels like it didnt really Maggie to you.


If my policy lynch does something that I deem scummy why does that make it invalid? 1 + 1 = 2, unless acting scummy invalidates policy lynches or policy lynches make it impossible to be scum. You policy lynch to punish anti-town behavior. I'm thinking about moving to WoS at the moment. As for the post on BH, I was simply stating an observation. I don't consider him a lynch target since that post.

Considering vayne decided to claim "if I die, bad things happen to scum", third party makes sense. I'd even be more willing to help his cause if he came clean.

Now that we know that Black Mesa possibly isn't a mafia faction, we may be able to take a look at the earlier discussion to look for additional knowledge. I'll do so when I get home if I remember.



Do it, Kita.
DO EET
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 30 2013 20:01 GMT
#897
No time for research/developing a case at the moment.

I'll also probably look at OO as well.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
August 30 2013 20:12 GMT
#898
On August 31 2013 04:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 04:01 Hassybaby wrote:
What a wonderful time to come back...

VE, why are you playing 2 people this game?

What does this mean?


The roleclaim that came out of nowhere :D
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
August 30 2013 20:16 GMT
#899
Hey Onegu, can you at least give us the cover names of people in there? It's a longshot, but I have an idea
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 20:21 GMT
#900
On August 31 2013 05:12 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 04:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 31 2013 04:01 Hassybaby wrote:
What a wonderful time to come back...

VE, why are you playing 2 people this game?

What does this mean?


The roleclaim that came out of nowhere :D


I didn't see no VE roleclaim?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 243 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko510
LamboSC2 271
ProTech123
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 41574
Calm 6165
Horang2 3415
Shuttle 3024
Bisu 2445
Larva 980
ggaemo 762
BeSt 615
Mini 557
Soma 530
[ Show more ]
firebathero 496
Light 430
Stork 410
EffOrt 300
ZerO 270
Rush 266
Snow 259
actioN 245
Leta 171
Free 126
Zeus 98
Killer 79
ToSsGirL 79
Pusan 70
Mind 63
PianO 61
HiyA 59
Backho 58
Sharp 48
[sc1f]eonzerg 36
Movie 36
Hm[arnc] 26
Barracks 26
Bale 25
sorry 24
soO 24
Nal_rA 23
Terrorterran 16
GoRush 16
IntoTheRainbow 11
Shinee 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
ivOry 8
Sacsri 6
Dota 2
Gorgc6833
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1482
edward104
markeloff99
oskar61
adren_tv19
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK10
Other Games
singsing2242
B2W.Neo801
hiko644
XBOCT419
crisheroes262
DeMusliM248
Hui .198
Sick100
QueenE92
ArmadaUGS74
Rex18
Trikslyr17
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream45
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen65
League of Legends
• Nemesis2107
• TFBlade792
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
9h 42m
Replay Cast
18h 42m
Afreeca Starleague
19h 42m
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
20h 42m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
KCM Race Survival
1d 18h
The PondCast
1d 19h
WardiTV Team League
1d 21h
OSC
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Platinum Heroes Events
4 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
OSC
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-23
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.