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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 15:03 GMT
#684
On August 30 2013 23:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
nice vague question clarity..

I assume you mean if I think WoS and kita are scum together. Nope.
I think kita is more likely to flip scum than WoS though, hmm. Yeah.
Like kita comes into the thread and instantly has like 3 scumreads without questioning them really and all his questions to WoS seem tunneledish.


No, I just mean does kita come off as scum to you from their interaction. Because it seems the basis for your scumread is kita's entry into the thread, yes? You also said you had a scumread on WoS. Obviously that must have changed after their interaction, so you're saying that WoS is town?

Like kita comes into the thread and instantly has like 3 scumreads without questioning them really

On August 30 2013 22:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
VA playing game properly. Its scummy
CAn totally lynch WoS too.
And Kita for going after the easiest target in the thread
Cora I <3 you. REALLY!!
+ Show Spoiler +
uh no not really


???
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 15:35 GMT
#704
I'm just surprised no one has expressed interest aside from me.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 15:43 GMT
#707
On August 31 2013 00:37 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm just surprised no one has expressed interest aside from me.


The previous aperature was not an all blue game so I'd be careful talking too much about it if it exposes our power roles. If someone finds it useful enough to claim than they can. One downside of giving it to an anti-town player as a roleblock is that they now control the item to either buff one of their own roles, keep it out of town hands, or roleblock another player. I'm assuming this does not work on factional kp. Is that correct koshi?


Really? I just remember playing in chrono and everyone had a PR. Same in parallel I think. I don't wanna host WIFOM too hard but it seems greymist and igrok have hosted all PR's for a while now

Yeah, giving it to scum as a "roleblock" is a bad idea.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 16:17 GMT
#727
On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.


What?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 16:26 GMT
#731
On August 31 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.


What?

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On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

I dunno. How did you not figure that out as they are clearly are a faction as stated in OP?


They're a faction, that doesn't make them a scumteam?
When I think scumteam I think a group of people who have nightly kp and win when everyone else is dead. We certainly don't know if either of those are true.
They COULD be a scumteam, they could not.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 16:34 GMT
#736
On August 31 2013 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 01:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.


What?

On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

I dunno. How did you not figure that out as they are clearly are a faction as stated in OP?


They're a faction, that doesn't make them a scumteam?
When I think scumteam I think a group of people who have nightly kp and win when everyone else is dead. We certainly don't know if either of those are true.
They COULD be a scumteam, they could not.

Scumteam, anti-town team, whatever.. but fair enough. Anyways i think we can agree that they are a team with more than one member that has a victory condition that probably will not help town win the game?


Yeah I can agree on that.

On August 31 2013 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think geript is scum. I thought he was scum based on how he entered the game, as I said, and I've thought that everything he's said since has been an anti-town influence on the game. If anyone disagrees with me, I'd love to discuss the matter.


Sure. Do you think scum enters the thread in a way that immediately draws everyone's attention to them?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 16:38 GMT
#740
On August 31 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Except it didn't - it ONLY drew MY ire Clarity. I'm the only one who had any issue with geript at the beginning of the game.


Okay... I guess I can kinda agree with that, maybe.

Let's phrase it like this: Why would scum open the game by saying someone is "1000% confirmed scum" or whatever, knowing that that will MOST LIKELY draw attention to them, when they can easily avoid said attention by not opening in such a silly manner.

Is geript that ballsy of a scum player?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 16:49 GMT
#749
On August 31 2013 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Geript hasn't played enough scum for me to guage how "ballsy" his scum play is. But I do know how ballsy his town-play is. And it's way more ballsy than the weak ass shit I'm seeing out of him this game.

Look at it like this: all he said was someone is scum. Like 1000%. Why would that draw any more attention to him than people trolling or people saying they haven't read their role PMs or people getting butthurt and ragequitting?


Because he did it before anyone else did? If I recall the first couple of pages is where geript drew all of the attention to himself.
I just don't see anything to go on to call him scum. I guess there's absolutely nothing to call him town but does that make him scum this early in the game?

It kinda just feels like thrawn claiming miller in a game where that was no SAM because he has some sort of shitty plan that will lure out scum or whatever, moreso than scum just saying random shit in the hopes that they'll get ignored (which I think is what you're getting at)
Maybe if he still hasn't done anything tomorrow, though.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 17:01 GMT
#755
On August 31 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
i'm trying to play im clearly not town, good lord this site is going to shit.

last time I ever don't troll.


Dude.... Are you not seeing that you're the problem here, and not the world?
Maybe people wouldn't think you were scum for being serious when you were serious more often.

How can you even say that you've trolled every game but this and then say "this site is going to shit"
Way to be part of the problem
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 17:05 GMT
#759
I don't know why you would ever claim that vayne
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 17:07 GMT
#760
On August 31 2013 02:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 02:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
i'm trying to play im clearly not town, good lord this site is going to shit.

last time I ever don't troll.


Dude.... Are you not seeing that you're the problem here, and not the world?
Maybe people wouldn't think you were scum for being serious when you were serious more often.

How can you even say that you've trolled every game but this and then say "this site is going to shit"
Way to be part of the problem


uh no the problem you just clearly addressed is that people give trolls towncred. Don't try to turn this on me when it's not specifically limited to me. All trolls receive towncred for whatever reason. Zero reason not to troll as this game was just ruined for me because I actually tried to play.

So no, I'm not the problem here.


Sigh.

People don't give trolls in general towncred. If I start trolling I'd be gone in a heartbeat, that goes for a lot of people.
The people who get away with trolling is the people who troll, all the fucking time. People like you.

Anyway now that you're not gonna get nightkilled, even more reason to figure the game out, right?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 17:19 GMT
#770
On August 31 2013 02:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 02:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 02:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 31 2013 02:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
i'm trying to play im clearly not town, good lord this site is going to shit.

last time I ever don't troll.


Dude.... Are you not seeing that you're the problem here, and not the world?
Maybe people wouldn't think you were scum for being serious when you were serious more often.

How can you even say that you've trolled every game but this and then say "this site is going to shit"
Way to be part of the problem


uh no the problem you just clearly addressed is that people give trolls towncred. Don't try to turn this on me when it's not specifically limited to me. All trolls receive towncred for whatever reason. Zero reason not to troll as this game was just ruined for me because I actually tried to play.

So no, I'm not the problem here.


Sigh.

People don't give trolls in general towncred. If I start trolling I'd be gone in a heartbeat, that goes for a lot of people.
The people who get away with trolling is the people who troll, all the fucking time. People like you.

Anyway now that you're not gonna get nightkilled, even more reason to figure the game out, right?


Oh please, I've trolled in one game and that's the one you played in. Don't be a martyr. I got nightkilled night 2 in that game so it wasn't even a big deal. I've been lynched in one game ever and you have the audacity to call me a troll? unbelievable. You can ignore the root of the problem all you want, but the fact is that people complain about lurking but reinforce it when people that contribute just get shit on and attacked. Why ever contribute to the game?


I dunno. Maybe because you want town to win?
If you wanna talk about TL meta, and your meta, let's do that postgame. For now I just want you to scumhunt like you have been. People called you scum and third party but at no point have you been in danger of being lynched. It would take 16 fucking people. I dunno why you claimed but I think your claim makes little sense as scum.

So please drop the bullshit. Saying I'm martyring when you're the one proclaiming your incoming uselessness. When you could just continue playing the way you have been and fuck the people who call you scum or whatever. Just scumhunt.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 17:25 GMT
#774
On August 31 2013 02:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
please point me to some one that is scumhunting more then me right now? I've already pointed out 3 potential prospects.

whatever it's like arguing with walls.


Read my post again. I said you WERE scumhunting, and then you martyred yourself for no reason when two people called you scum/3p, one of which you think is scum.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 17:49 GMT
#791
On August 31 2013 02:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On August 31 2013 02:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea, so if town wants to shoot me go for it that seems fine. Maybe it's actually an okay claim since I forgot that we can just combine town roles.

I have a feeling some one is going to roleblock me or some shit though so idk

also to your question rayn, just look at cheesecake's recent post which is exactly how I felt. His opening post has inherent guilt and discusses things that are not actually important. illusory participation.


And if you're mafia we just gave scum TWO KP at their disposal.

What do you think of Risen? Short filter but that's what I'm going for, lynch all the lurky people.


You can't possibly think scum has a role that if they're shot they get 2 extra kp? I mean, I know greymist is insane but c'mon.
The options are he's lying scum, lying 3p or town. I guess maybe lying town is possible to stay alive but truthful scum is not an option.

As for Felkyr. Yeah that opening post >.< BUT didn't he say this was his first game? Especially in a heavily themed game I can understand being distracted by shiny jewelery.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 18:10 GMT
#813
On August 31 2013 03:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@Clarity

WHY YOU DEFENDING FELKYR, WHY HE NOT MAFIA? WHO MAFIA?


Hulk Smash.
Just saying it's his first game and I can understand how a heavily themed game like this might lead him astray. His absence is quite bad however.

I'm warming myself up to an oats lynch but... he's active and stuff...
I honestly think most of the scumteam still hasn't shown up or done much.

Someone in the group of oats/Felkyr/WoS/kita is probably scum, rest are being scared bastards because the thread's been feeling like a townfest so far.

Oh I've kinda forgotten about Risen. He whines about a filler post, then makes a filler post, then says how he just made a filler post. Whatsup with that?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 18:17 GMT
#822
On August 31 2013 03:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
What clarity? Make any points on how Im scum.......


Your stance on kita has been really weird this game. You call him scum for going for the easy target when he clearly wasn't. Yes, he voted dandel for policy reasons but then he was mainly interacting with WoS. You then defend your read on kita by explaining why dandel isn't trolling, when he is.

You also ignored this post completely:
On August 31 2013 00:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 23:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
nice vague question clarity..

I assume you mean if I think WoS and kita are scum together. Nope.
I think kita is more likely to flip scum than WoS though, hmm. Yeah.
Like kita comes into the thread and instantly has like 3 scumreads without questioning them really and all his questions to WoS seem tunneledish.


No, I just mean does kita come off as scum to you from their interaction. Because it seems the basis for your scumread is kita's entry into the thread, yes? You also said you had a scumread on WoS. Obviously that must have changed after their interaction, so you're saying that WoS is town?

Show nested quote +
Like kita comes into the thread and instantly has like 3 scumreads without questioning them really

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 22:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
VA playing game properly. Its scummy
CAn totally lynch WoS too.
And Kita for going after the easiest target in the thread
Cora I <3 you. REALLY!!
+ Show Spoiler +
uh no not really


???

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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 18:18 GMT
#827
On August 31 2013 03:16 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 03:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
eh I might be wrong about cephiro then, that case seems like classic scum BH.

you silly! the black and red chase each other's tails you see! but first the RED MAN must die!


Are you going to do this all game because the last game I played in had a roleplayer and he was scum.
Although he stopped halfway cause I threatened to policy lynch him.

So... yeah.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 18:18 GMT
#828
On August 31 2013 03:17 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 03:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
OO, the main reason I wanna lynch felkyr is cause he talks about 0 scum in his opening post and instead focuses on setup speculation, easiest shit in the world for scum to do.

Why is everyone saying im scummy. Im depressed that low activity = scummy.

You are scum regardless of alignment.


LOL
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 18:21 GMT
#832
On August 31 2013 03:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dandel was the easiest fucking target in the thread for not doing anything very obviously and that his meta matches with his play at that time. COME ON...


Why does that make kita's policy lynch wrong? I've asked this before....
You focused on kita's policy vote and completely ignored his interaction with WoS until asked about it.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 18:31 GMT
#846
Venn diagram OP
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