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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 21:34 GMT
#4361
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This cycle in a nutshell ^
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 09 2013 21:34 GMT
#4362
On September 10 2013 06:28 Risen wrote:
Expand on that, please. You're the distant third scum read I have right now, and it's only because I can't fathom town Cephiro being so incompetent.


Under your assumption the scumteam is Cephiro/MrZentor/HiroPro:

So you're saying that I would have shot Coagulation (scum), given two items publicly to 2 other scum teammates, only to tell HiroPro to kill Zentor with the item, to gain them both, thus leaving only me and HiroPro alive with one item.

#YOLO #BestScumPlayEver

I'm not going further into this topic, I hope you understand how retarded that is. If you consider me a smart player, and like most people here know I'm better as scum than town, I think you can see I'd never do that if I was scum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 21:35 GMT
#4363
All three of Cephiro/MrZ/Hiro being scum is ridonkulous.

But to everyone saying MrZ and Hiro can't both be scum, you need to explain two things:

(1) What is your read on HiroPro ASIDE FROM the start of D4? Actions, votes, he has played this game.
(2) What course of action does scum HiroPro take if asked to crush scum MrZ apart from doing it?


For SUPER conspiracy theorists out there, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT ZENTOR IS GETTING KILLED. Let's all read Koshi's role.

On September 05 2013 09:17 GreYMisT wrote:
Koshi, as Cave Johnson, has died!

Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are Cave Johnson!, the old CEO of Aperture Science. You don't like how the robots and weirdos have taken over, so you are taking back what's yours! You still lead a large R&D team somehow, so you can make some pretty cool inventions. You may choose 2 players and move them next to each other on the player list (they will move the shortest path). You may invent any item and give it to one of those players. Once per game, you may decide to meddle with the scientific process and give out the invention to both players you move, designating one of them to not function at all. Because of you charisma you have managed somehow to work your way into Black Mesa REDACTED. You are town aligned, but only win with the town if all other Number Redacted members of Black mesa are dead.

"Just a heads up, we're gonna have a super conductor turned up full blast and pointed at you for the duration of this next test. I'll be honest, we're throwing science at the walls here to see what sticks. No idea what it'll do"

There is a CHANCE that the crusher is fake in the first place.
Fe fi fo fum.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 21:36 GMT
#4364
On September 10 2013 06:35 austinmcc wrote:
All three of Cephiro/MrZ/Hiro being scum is ridonkulous.

But to everyone saying MrZ and Hiro can't both be scum, you need to explain two things:

(1) What is your read on HiroPro ASIDE FROM the start of D4? Actions, votes, he has played this game.
(2) What course of action does scum HiroPro take if asked to crush scum MrZ apart from doing it?


For SUPER conspiracy theorists out there, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT ZENTOR IS GETTING KILLED. Let's all read Koshi's role.

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 09:17 GreYMisT wrote:
Koshi, as Cave Johnson, has died!

Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are Cave Johnson!, the old CEO of Aperture Science. You don't like how the robots and weirdos have taken over, so you are taking back what's yours! You still lead a large R&D team somehow, so you can make some pretty cool inventions. You may choose 2 players and move them next to each other on the player list (they will move the shortest path). You may invent any item and give it to one of those players. Once per game, you may decide to meddle with the scientific process and give out the invention to both players you move, designating one of them to not function at all. Because of you charisma you have managed somehow to work your way into Black Mesa REDACTED. You are town aligned, but only win with the town if all other Number Redacted members of Black mesa are dead.

"Just a heads up, we're gonna have a super conductor turned up full blast and pointed at you for the duration of this next test. I'll be honest, we're throwing science at the walls here to see what sticks. No idea what it'll do"

There is a CHANCE that the crusher is fake in the first place.


Oh my fucking God.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 09 2013 21:38 GMT
#4365
On September 10 2013 06:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 06:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2013 06:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
You are out of your mind if you think cephiro hiro mrz scumteam.

What would you suggest if randombum turns up town?


I believe that one of mrz or hiro is scum but not both. Probably one of the 3p claims like Risen or WoS.
I really don't see axle flipping red, though.


Anyone who even suggests that I could potentially be scum at this point needs to have their head examined.

"Riding a giant wave of town cred after successfully lynching his scum buddy, Risen decided to claim 3P as scum to guarantee that he be lynched if two nights passed without his death."

or

"Riding a giant wave of town cred after successfully lynching scum, Risen panicked because he realized if scum stacked KP on him he would die. Risen was 3P, and didn't care about the endgame, just making it another two nights, so he decided to cut a deal with scum. Scum shot him anyways."

I wish there was a watcher to confirm that I visited Cheese last night and the dude is still alive.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 09 2013 21:39 GMT
#4366
On September 10 2013 06:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wave is telling the truth. He's my partner in ambivalence. If he was going to claim, I don't know why he didn't just claim so I could confirm it, but consider it confirmed - my role explicitly knows that he shares my win-condition and alignment, so WoS should be confirmed not-scum to anyone paying attention hereafter. So that means that I'm more, not less, suspicious of Risen as a result, because WoS and I are DEFINITELY third party - Risen is only like...maybe third party.

Anyways, still reading.


I'm willing to go with a Risen lynch.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 09 2013 21:39 GMT
#4367
In that case, either WaveOfShadow or the killer of VayneAuthority would have that item. I have not seen Wave claiming it, I do not believe he has one. I assume scum killed Vayne, I am sure they would have used the item already. I would have used mine instantly on D3 if I could have. Thus, we can safely assume Zentor flips.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 21:39 GMT
#4368
We're not lynching Risen you stupid fucks. Lynch Axle or Randombum and be done with this shit.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 21:39 GMT
#4369
Hi Cheesecake,

Here's all you've said about Hiro:
On September 10 2013 04:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 04:17 austinmcc wrote:
I don't think Axle is scum. Stop wanting to lynch him and follow up on saying you were going to read up on Hiro.

It's a good time to do so since Cephiro apparently has reappeared.


He did one thing in Casket I remember: Yell at people to lynch ObviousOne. He was so adamant about it -- more adamant than anything else he's done in this game. Yet, he didn't have a vote in the lynch. Was he doing this for towncred when either debears or OO flipped? Seems like an easy thing for mafia to do, sit on the sidelines in another thread and push the correct lynch without having a vote to back it up.

I point this out because Hiro hasn't pushed any other lynch that hard, and the one he pushes he has no weight in?



You said you'd look at him. It appears you thought about it. You point out a thing that's "an easy thing for mafia to do."

Yet you don't comment any further than that. You don't say whether you think he's scum or town. You make it conditional on flips. HiroPro is EITHER town or scum right now. Before Zentor flips. Or I guess he could be an 18th 3P. But he's got an alignment right this second. It behooves all townies to try and discern that alignment.

So, forget the conspiracy theory, and focus.

What is your read on HiroPro?
What course of action does scum HiroPro take if asked to crush scum MrZ apart from crushing?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 21:40 GMT
#4370
On September 10 2013 06:39 Cephiro wrote:
In that case, either WaveOfShadow or the killer of VayneAuthority would have that item. I have not seen Wave claiming it, I do not believe he has one. I assume scum killed Vayne, I am sure they would have used the item already. I would have used mine instantly on D3 if I could have. Thus, we can safely assume Zentor flips.
Wat?

How do you know who Koshi gave items to? Did I miss something?

Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2013 21:41 GMT
#4371
I don't fucking know. I vote for anyone Austin votes for. I can't make anything out of this and he is making most sense atm.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2013 21:42 GMT
#4372
##Unvote:
##Vote: HiroPro
table for two on a tv tray
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 09 2013 21:42 GMT
#4373
On September 10 2013 06:40 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 06:39 Cephiro wrote:
In that case, either WaveOfShadow or the killer of VayneAuthority would have that item. I have not seen Wave claiming it, I do not believe he has one. I assume scum killed Vayne, I am sure they would have used the item already. I would have used mine instantly on D3 if I could have. Thus, we can safely assume Zentor flips.
Wat?

How do you know who Koshi gave items to? Did I miss something?



.... I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE THIS SHIT. Because I got the Crusher from him, according to his role the other person should be right next to me. READ FOR GOD'S SAKE. I don't understand how you bring that theory up but won't even think it through. Either he gave it to just me (which I assume to be correct), or then the other scenario I told above.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
September 09 2013 21:43 GMT
#4374
What are we doing Ceph?
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 09 2013 21:43 GMT
#4375
I'm shooting rayn tonight if he tries to lynch Hiro, FYI. He's ranking very low on my trust list.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 21:43 GMT
#4376
On September 10 2013 06:42 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 06:40 austinmcc wrote:
On September 10 2013 06:39 Cephiro wrote:
In that case, either WaveOfShadow or the killer of VayneAuthority would have that item. I have not seen Wave claiming it, I do not believe he has one. I assume scum killed Vayne, I am sure they would have used the item already. I would have used mine instantly on D3 if I could have. Thus, we can safely assume Zentor flips.
Wat?

How do you know who Koshi gave items to? Did I miss something?



.... I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE THIS SHIT. Because I got the Crusher from him, according to his role the other person should be right next to me. READ FOR GOD'S SAKE. I don't understand how you bring that theory up but won't even think it through. Either he gave it to just me (which I assume to be correct), or then the other scenario I told above.

I read the bolded and forgot about the specific targets bit
Fe fi fo fum.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 09 2013 21:44 GMT
#4377
On September 10 2013 06:43 HiroPro wrote:
What are we doing Ceph?


I'd say go for Axle lynch. Rayn is sitting in the line waiting next.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 09 2013 21:44 GMT
#4378
On September 10 2013 06:43 Cephiro wrote:
I'm shooting rayn tonight if he tries to lynch Hiro, FYI. He's ranking very low on my trust list.


If his claim is true you'll kill a pokemon and give scum powers...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 21:45 GMT
#4379
On September 10 2013 06:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 06:43 Cephiro wrote:
I'm shooting rayn tonight if he tries to lynch Hiro, FYI. He's ranking very low on my trust list.


If his claim is true you'll kill a pokemon and give scum powers...


So you're assuming Rayn is town here?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 09 2013 21:45 GMT
#4380
On September 10 2013 06:43 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 06:42 Cephiro wrote:
On September 10 2013 06:40 austinmcc wrote:
On September 10 2013 06:39 Cephiro wrote:
In that case, either WaveOfShadow or the killer of VayneAuthority would have that item. I have not seen Wave claiming it, I do not believe he has one. I assume scum killed Vayne, I am sure they would have used the item already. I would have used mine instantly on D3 if I could have. Thus, we can safely assume Zentor flips.
Wat?

How do you know who Koshi gave items to? Did I miss something?



.... I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE THIS SHIT. Because I got the Crusher from him, according to his role the other person should be right next to me. READ FOR GOD'S SAKE. I don't understand how you bring that theory up but won't even think it through. Either he gave it to just me (which I assume to be correct), or then the other scenario I told above.

I read the bolded and forgot about the specific targets bit


Aight, sorry if I seemed a bit heated up. These super what-the-fuck theories that make no sense and divert the discussion just make me go all jackie-chan wtf are these people doing. Do that randombum shooting stuff to confirm if he's town or not tonight, and we'll lynch Axle or rayn.
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