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AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 09 2013 15:17 GMT
#3981
On September 10 2013 00:14 Stutters695 wrote:
3p is town for all intents and purposes unless we determine they're wincon revolves around killing.


They may be that to you... 3P often require enough time to achieve their wincon and thus actively play against one side or the other.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 09 2013 15:21 GMT
#3982
On September 10 2013 00:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like, okay, cakepie claimed. So Stutters you're saying you believed cakepie to be the other pokemon trainer (you knew his rolename was oak) and more townie than rayn, therefore rayn scum. Then cakepie claims to be Oak (as you knew) and it changes your read on rayn?


No, I knew cakepie wasn't a trainer. Notice how I said another pokemon role, not trainer. I wanted to see how people would react.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 09 2013 15:23 GMT
#3983
On September 10 2013 00:21 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 00:09 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like, okay, cakepie claimed. So Stutters you're saying you believed cakepie to be the other pokemon trainer (you knew his rolename was oak) and more townie than rayn, therefore rayn scum. Then cakepie claims to be Oak (as you knew) and it changes your read on rayn?


No, I knew cakepie wasn't a trainer. Notice how I said another pokemon role, not trainer. I wanted to see how people would react.


WHAT THE FUCK YEAH RIGHT

Okay, what did you get out of the reactions?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 09 2013 15:24 GMT
#3984
Like, you knew cakepie wasn't a trainer (okay?), but you said you wanted to lynch rayn because cakepie is townier?
WHY

WHAT

W.f:wegmweFIPEWRUGWEHGW
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 09 2013 15:24 GMT
#3985
##unvote
##Vote Stutters695
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 15:26 GMT
#3986
Stutters why did you say

"I think the Rayn is more likely to be scum" than the other pokemon role? This sounds like you are implying you know the second pokemon trainer and he is town and Rayn is scum. Why were you instantly down for lynching Rayn when you thought Cakepie was town but not the second trainer?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 15:27 GMT
#3987
Ninja'd by Clarity...
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 15:31 GMT
#3988
Alright, enough watching.

I lead a sleeper cell. I add a person each night, up to 3. Ta da, stutters, cakepie if you guys couldn't guess from his fixation on what I wrote to stutters, and randombum last night.

Here's how the cell works. Each of my cell members votes each night on a target. If the voting is UNANIMOUS, my cell shoots that target. If the voting is not unanimous, we twiddle our thumbs. That's why weird lists in the thread, I need to be able to give codewords and then figure out targets later, and I needed you guys to have phrases you could use if you didn't want to shoot my target, because the unanimity is friggin' important.

Why? Because, it's not like the sleeper cells in the sleeper cell games. I don't have any control over the KP, don't get to choose someone you send in, I just get to try and get everyone on one page. And here's the twist. If I add a mafia player to the cell, that player does not get a vote.

N1 I added stutters. N2 I had him shoot alakaslam and added cakepie. UNLESS anyone else can claim the shot on alakaslam, stutters is 100% town. If he were mafia, my cell would not have shot. And it can't be a stutters/alakaslam mafia team because there was actual host confirmation that alakaslam was shot.

On N3, I had stutters and cakepie on different targets. If cakepie were mafia, stutters would have shot randombum last night (stutters as town has a vote, mafia cakepie would NOT and so it would be unanimous to stutters's target, randombum). Cakepie, you can rest a little easier and get off stutters back. Cakepie, I know what you're worried about, but stutters is cleared unless someone claims slam shot.

I needed to compartmentalize information so you guys didn't know you were shooting different targets, and I didn't want it known that I'm a half-ass DT because of how the shooting works. I basically get kills OR checks. Stutters, I know you said you're easy to read, but I usually end up calling you mafia in our games and I'm paranoid that you'll roll scum and just lay low. So I added you to the cell as a way of seeing your alignment, and also figured since we've played a couple games you could trust me if you agreed with my targets. Cakepie, you actually got active on D3, but when I added you N2 I didn't really have a feel for you, so added you as a check again.

N3 I added randombum. randombum was the person I was talking to stutters about last night, adding little things but never following them, getting suspicion but always hovering outside the lynch. I am fine lynching randombum today, but it's inefficient.

Stutters and cakepie, you guys shoot randombum tonight. randombum, if you're town, shoot anyone other than yourself. Ta da! If randombum is mafia, his vote doesn't count, stutters/cakepie are unanimous, and randombum gets shot. I don't actively do anything, so I can't be roleblocked. OO flipped blocker, and I doubt that scum can block BOTH stutters and cakepie from voting, and if either gets a vote in and randombum is mafia, whoosh. If bum doesn't get shot, votes weren't unanimous, and he's town.

Got like two more sizeable posts coming off what I've noticed today. Pressure stutters all you want, but unless anyone can claim the shot on alakaslam, he's town.
Fe fi fo fum.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 09 2013 15:34 GMT
#3989
Jesus

##unvote
##vote randombum


Do 3p get a shot, austin?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2013 15:35 GMT
#3990
So we should not lynch Stutters or randombum you are saying?
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 09 2013 15:36 GMT
#3991
Like that's great and all but we need a lynch today. zentor and randombum both just got given an extra day for.. reasons.
I really don't like a rayn lynch. WoS is tough... I'll consolidate on him if I have to I guess but that seems terrible.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2013 15:37 GMT
#3992
WoS does your role name start with letter B?
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 09 2013 15:37 GMT
#3993
Okay well zentor didnt hes gonna get crushed, my point is we need a lynch >.<
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 15:37 GMT
#3994
Well that's pretty fucking elaborate.
if this all went down as you said, Austin, wp.

So essentially now the question becomes do people trust the claim and its mechanics enough to let Austin deal with randombum or are people worried that it could be a ploy to let him live another night for whatever reason.

Clarity you don't trust Austin it seems. Any particular reason why?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 15:38 GMT
#3995
On September 10 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS does your role name start with letter B?

It does not.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 15:38 GMT
#3996
My role starts with an E.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 15:39 GMT
#3997
On September 10 2013 00:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
My role starts with an E.


Mine starts with a V.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 15:39 GMT
#3998
Oh hey debears ninja vote?
Are you around? Are you sure Rayn is scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 09 2013 15:39 GMT
#3999
On September 10 2013 00:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Okay well zentor didnt hes gonna get crushed, my point is we need a lynch >.<


I have one I prepared earlier?
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 09 2013 15:40 GMT
#4000
On September 10 2013 00:39 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 00:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Okay well zentor didnt hes gonna get crushed, my point is we need a lynch >.<


I have one I prepared earlier?


I really don't feel comfortable with a WoS lynch. Bleh.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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