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On September 07 2013 07:29 ShiaoPi wrote: ugh I wanted to sleep soon. look clarity why is it impossible for OO to think like proposed here?
It's not impossible it's just damn implausible. The scenario of OO being town makes more sense to me. Yes, the shot is terrible either way, but if they're both scum the dayvig claim would never have happened. It just makes no sense. If debears is town and OO is scum the dayvig makes no sense either because there are better targets.
Only in a scenario where OO is emotional town does his shot make sense to me. Since I think OO is town, I think his shot is real, which means debears is the better lynch.
This situation sucks, but I don't see big scumplays happening here.
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You guys keep rehashing the same arguments where IT MAKES NO SENSE AS TOWN THEREFORE SCUM. But that's not a damn argument, it has to make sense as scum. Risen saying "scum don't have to make sense they just need big plays" is freaking deluded.
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On September 07 2013 07:40 ShiaoPi wrote: wait, anyone knows how many of us are in this thread?
13, 7 to lynch
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On September 07 2013 07:46 AxleGreaser wrote: People voting to save OO... and then never see if he lied.
Where is OO? Why is he not playing? How are you ever going to be sure he is town?
I dunno, the regular way perhaps?
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On September 07 2013 07:54 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 07:26 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 07 2013 07:26 Risen wrote:On September 07 2013 07:25 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 07 2013 07:22 AxleGreaser wrote: BTW there will be no Day vig if hes scum...
Explain this please, this seems to only make sense if they're both scum. It means the dayvig claim is fake. Which is what I've been trying to get through to you. Yeah, which only makes sense if they're both scum which I do not buy. If they're both scum there was no need to fake a dayvig shot. Yeah it does... If they are both scum... it looks like way to ensure Oo gets lynched as its so daft. If instead it gets believed or WIFOM'd as an emotional play... then how does it hurt ? If Only OO is scum, same logic applies except it requires scum to make an error under pressure. (over look how daft the play is) Why not make an error like that as town? because you have had your Pm for the whole game and being trying to look for the best opportunity to use it wisely to help your win con. Yuo are way more likely to and have had time to consider when and why you'd use your power.
Maybe I just have trouble putting myself in someone elses shoes if that were the case, because if I'm scum and I have a delayed dayvig ability I don't just suddenly blow it when I'm feeling pressure, whereas if I'm town I might. Why? Because as town I feel like I'm trying to win the game alone, whereas if I'm scum it's a team effort.
Both alignments think about how to use their abilities the best they can all game long, no? This shot makes sense from neither alignment. I think OO looks town if you ignore the shot. Yeah the vote on debears is odd but look at his post on cakepie.
debears on the other hand, called austin scum and said he didn't need to use nirvana strike to get him lynched, but then OMGUS nirvana strikes OO, with his reasons being: "I want towncred" and "I didn't wanna look like I was sheeping"
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On September 07 2013 08:13 Stutters695 wrote: I'm voting oo. he's the better choice
...???
Look at this. There's like 6 paragraphs of text above this post explaining why he's not the best choice and this is all you have to say Stutters?
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On September 07 2013 08:14 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 07 2013 07:54 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 07 2013 07:26 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 07 2013 07:26 Risen wrote:On September 07 2013 07:25 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 07 2013 07:22 AxleGreaser wrote: BTW there will be no Day vig if hes scum...
Explain this please, this seems to only make sense if they're both scum. It means the dayvig claim is fake. Which is what I've been trying to get through to you. Yeah, which only makes sense if they're both scum which I do not buy. If they're both scum there was no need to fake a dayvig shot. Yeah it does... If they are both scum... it looks like way to ensure Oo gets lynched as its so daft. If instead it gets believed or WIFOM'd as an emotional play... then how does it hurt ? If Only OO is scum, same logic applies except it requires scum to make an error under pressure. (over look how daft the play is) Why not make an error like that as town? because you have had your Pm for the whole game and being trying to look for the best opportunity to use it wisely to help your win con. Yuo are way more likely to and have had time to consider when and why you'd use your power. Maybe I just have trouble putting myself in someone elses shoes if that were the case, because if I'm scum and I have a delayed dayvig ability I don't just suddenly blow it when I'm feeling pressure, whereas if I'm town I might. Why? Because as town I feel like I'm trying to win the game alone, whereas if I'm scum it's a team effort. Both alignments think about how to use their abilities the best they can all game long, no? This shot makes sense from neither alignment. I think OO looks town if you ignore the shot. Yeah the vote on debears is odd but look at his post on cakepie. debears on the other hand, called austin scum and said he didn't need to use nirvana strike to get him lynched, but then OMGUS nirvana strikes OO, with his reasons being: "I want towncred" and "I didn't wanna look like I was sheeping" + Show Spoiler +Sometimes as town I dfeel like i am trying to win the game alone too, buthen my rational mind reminds me thats not true. I do undertsand at least some people wont take the second rational step and just keep YOLOing day vig, and nirvanna strike, forever. (this town did run a this town aint big enough game where that was the cultural norm) Both alignments do think about how to use their powers all game long. Regarding powers town and scum ACTUALLY have.... Scum think about how to use them to help scum. town think about how to use them to help town. Scum suddenly trying to fake a town motivation for the use get it wrong more often. Scum do not think that much about how to use powers they might under some conditions oneday fake claim. Also scum OO has fake claimed rather well.... If we lynch him no harm done. If we lynch DB then we can no longer verify whether he did or did not have that power... If OO, is scum, Nothing wrong ...
Accept the possibility of the shot coming from town for one damn second. Ignore the shot, look at OO's play. Does he look like scum? Now look at debears.
If OO flips scum all is well and good, if he flips town we are screwed. How many mislynches do we have left you reckon?
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lol @ randombum. Salty scum
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Votecount is 6 each atm, so it's up to you cakepie >.< This stutters vote without explanation should ring some alarmbells for people though.
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Seriously though to me it seems like OO is gonna flip town dayvig and debears is gonna die tomorrow, if neither are scum we are fucked.
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and oo is dayvig... so debears confirmed town and confirmed dead tomorrow?
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On September 07 2013 09:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh shit the vig sot was real.
Okay, nevermind. I assumed red flip meant fake shot.
You would think so wouldn't you? >.<
Anyway, gonna grab a bit of sleep before voice games later, probably need a break from this game anyway.
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On September 07 2013 09:31 Cephiro wrote: Clarity, I'm not sure if a 5th person is necessary, but it can't hurt with a plan this complex. Are you in?
Sure.
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He has a green check. Although I consider rayn to practically have a green check too. Sooooooo, coag.
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about to start, come on peoples :p
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I'm back for a bit. Risen, we already knew he was cell leader.
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