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On September 01 2013 06:21 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 06:18 HiroPro wrote:
I'm rather enjoying watching BH squirm in his last few moments. does everyone know something I don't know?
Well geript has upped his claims to include you are going to die?
(instead as well or something? IDK also IDGAF he does not appear to me to be playing)
On September 01 2013 06:16 Blazinghand wrote:
1) we need more votes for geript. It may look like he's getting lynched but he's not: we need more.
2) if you're some kind of doublelyncher/dayvig, AG, and you need me to do something to activate your power, let me know. I'll do it.
nothing that ostentaious.
However as nothing productive appears to be happening apart from people waiting to vote geript last (I hope)
My plan is:
I want at the end of the day:
The lynch wagon to have enough votes to be safe from votes stealers.
BUT
If we can get enough votes.
I want at the end of the BH VE and Clarity to be voting for me!!!!!
If that happens then that would a pro town outcome.
reasons for choosing you three.
1/ As its sheningans I can trust you three to get it right and not let the lead wagon fail.
How pro town is it?
It is not pro town enough to risk the lead wagon failing by one vote.
How pro town is it if it fails? (where fails = the day ends without you guys voting for me)
Scum have no idea what I am doing and I like that out come too.
BTW please dont accidentally lynch me or anything I only want some votes on me.
[spoiler=at the aether?] Hows that for great? [spoiler]
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On September 01 2013 06:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Caught up. Felkyr seems to be putting in an effort so I'm fine with him around.
Consolidating I guess, although my kneejerk response was to test the unlynchable claim, the more I thought about it the less it made sense.
I think dandel is a good lynch, but since my case there's been no interest so I don't think I'll get 15 votes. If I'm wrong please let me know, we do have 3 hours left after all.
##Unvote
##Vote geript
@Clarity
Consolidating is great.
if we have the breathing room please if you think its safe to swap your vote to me at the end.
(see my previous posts)
@everyone (who is town)
unless you have your own plans consolidating is great.
Also if you consolidate then Clarity VE and BH can swap to vote for me.
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On September 01 2013 06:54 Cephiro wrote:
@Axle
I am going to change on my vote if you will stick with those three.
I am not understanding either this or the EBWOP.
TBMK.
Cephiro: is currently voting for Geript.
Thats where i want Cephiros vote:
Id like some other townies to consiolidate onto geript
so that BH Clarity and VE can safely vote swap to me. (remember vote stealers)
I dont want or need any other votes on me.
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On September 01 2013 06:57 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 06:55 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 01 2013 06:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Caught up. Felkyr seems to be putting in an effort so I'm fine with him around.
Consolidating I guess, although my kneejerk response was to test the unlynchable claim, the more I thought about it the less it made sense.
I think dandel is a good lynch, but since my case there's been no interest so I don't think I'll get 15 votes. If I'm wrong please let me know, we do have 3 hours left after all.
##Unvote
##Vote geript @Clarity Consolidating is great. if we have the breathing room please if you think its safe to swap your vote to me at the end. (see my previous posts) @everyone (who is town) unless you have your own plans consolidating is great. Also if you consolidate then Clarity VE and BH can swap to vote for me. Oh I kinda forgot about this. Do you need all three of us? And is there a reason you choose those three?
The stated reason is that I trust you three to get the shenanigans right and correctly allow for vote stealers etc....
aka perceived SKILL
It is not a three or nothing thing. (I wont even cry if I get no votes today)
It is not worth messing up the lynch. (hence a skill requirement)
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On September 01 2013 07:05 Cephiro wrote:
What I mean is, if you're going to stick with those 3 people as your "trusted ones" for shenanigans, I will vote on you instead.
Why?
Does that mean you dont trust them?
(BTW I am happy if only two of the three are town)
That you now dont trust me because I chose them?
If you vote for me instead then they cant so safely swap to vote for me?
If you are town please dont do that (swap to vote for me)
if you are scum (and not one of those three VE Clairty BH ) feel free to vote for me.
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On September 01 2013 07:04 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:02 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 01 2013 06:54 Cephiro wrote:
@Axle
I am going to change on my vote if you will stick with those three. I am not understanding either this or the EBWOP. TBMK. Cephiro: is currently voting for Geript. Thats where i want Cephiros vote: Id like some other townies to consiolidate onto geript so that BH Clarity and VE can safely vote swap to me. (remember vote stealers) I dont want or need any other votes on me. I don't think I will be changing my vote so you may have to rely on others.
Is there any reason you want your vote parked somewhere like Shiaopi?
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On September 01 2013 07:13 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:10 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 01 2013 06:57 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 01 2013 06:55 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 01 2013 06:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Caught up. Felkyr seems to be putting in an effort so I'm fine with him around.
Consolidating I guess, although my kneejerk response was to test the unlynchable claim, the more I thought about it the less it made sense.
I think dandel is a good lynch, but since my case there's been no interest so I don't think I'll get 15 votes. If I'm wrong please let me know, we do have 3 hours left after all.
##Unvote
##Vote geript @Clarity Consolidating is great. if we have the breathing room please if you think its safe to swap your vote to me at the end. (see my previous posts) @everyone (who is town) unless you have your own plans consolidating is great. Also if you consolidate then Clarity VE and BH can swap to vote for me. Oh I kinda forgot about this. Do you need all three of us? And is there a reason you choose those three? The stated reason is that I trust you three to get the shenanigans right and correctly allow for vote stealers etc.... aka perceived SKILL It is not a three or nothing thing. (I wont even cry if I get no votes today) It is not worth messing up the lynch. (hence a skill requirement) Alright well I see no reason not to. I'm around at lynchtime. I'll make sure there is a big enough gap between geript and anyone else, and if there is I'll switch my vote to you a bit before deadline.
ta. NOT between geript and anyone ELSE
This is MAJORITY. We need "With 31 alive it takes 16 to lynch. "
please be sure there is a big enough gap between geript and the 16 required to Lynch.
Sheesh.
(If plausible numbers of vote stealers swappers (what evers) pull the vote under 16 Id expect a no lynch?)
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On September 01 2013 07:24 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:19 AxleGreaser wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 01 2013 07:05 Cephiro wrote:
What I mean is, if you're going to stick with those 3 people as your "trusted ones" for shenanigans, I will vote on you instead. Why? Does that mean you dont trust them? (BTW I am happy if only two of the three are town) That you now dont trust me because I chose them? If you vote for me instead then they cant so safely swap to vote for me? If you are town please dont do that (swap to vote for me) if you are scum (and not one of those three VE Clairty BH ) feel free to vote for me. Yes, it means there are people I don't trust enough in there. However, if your tricks are of such manner they cannot cause anti-town to gain a benefit, then I don't mind. But you're clearly looking for people you trust, which is why I'm assuming there is something that can go wrong.
The possibility to go wrong is pretty much confined to if those three misplay shenaningans and we no lynch.
If they also (not just you) mistrust one another their thinking about shenanigans also will allow for that when they decide if it is safe to vote swap to me.
Thus unless you mistrust say 2 or more of them then I say (with more knowledge than you) that the plan is pro town and you should help me by allowing the max number of them to swap.
Consider this: Everytime we force scum to make public decisions it gives town information.
I have manufactured a new decision point.
You are deciding if this plan is safe or not and talking about it.
They will be deciding if the wagon is safe enough from a no lynch to swap or not.
So far even if nothing happens at all (no one votes for me) I think town is in front compared to where wed be if I had done nothing.
You helping by either moving your vote to geript or leaving it there gets more information yes?
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On September 01 2013 07:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm here guys don't worry. What's going on?
Well,
I posted this id like you to read.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19645269
The upshot is...
I say that if you think the lead wagon is safe from turning into a no lynch via vote stealers or whatever then at the end
BH Clarity and VE should vote swap to vote for me Axlegreaser.
I say that is good plan even if one of you is scum.
(I even doubt it will help scum even if two of you were scum)
You need to try hard not to let vote stealers swappers drop the vote below 16.
There ought be plausible limit on how many votes they might be able to steal or swap. (due to balance)
So if you can please have your vote on me at the end of the day.
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On September 01 2013 08:16 Clarity_nl wrote:Do you know something I don't? Axle, does your power backfire if there is more than 1 scum voting for you? You seemed oddly specific that having 1 scum is fine.
No I have considered everything like that.
I would also be happy if the entire scum team who is not you three vote for me....
I would also be happy if you three vote for me and one scum hops ride as a fourth.
aka everything.
The risk is if trying this gets a no lynch.
Also its not big play, it is just the best I have got.
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On September 01 2013 08:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Actually no axle don't answer that, dumb question
oops
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On September 01 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
actually, tgere's also the possibility that he just kills everyone who's voting him, which would be kinda LOL. I'll do it though. I'll do it for the lols
I hope this works!
##unvote
##vote AxleGreaser
That would be pretty LOL but OP?
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On September 01 2013 08:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What is Axles power, do we know? I can't be fucked to read every post of his.
No I didnt say.
@BH VE and clarity.
I am neither good at me doing last minute shenanies nor guessing Gmists setup.
I have read my PM, that I am very good at reading that.
You need to use your judgement on whether it is safe for you to swap from Geript.
The risk as I understand it is if Geript is scum and scum can manipulate the vote by some small number so we need margin.
The other option that actual scum publicly jump off a fellow scum after you guys is I would have thought net loss for them.
TBMK other than the above, everything about this, including you guys using your judgement, is a win for town.
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On September 01 2013 08:44 mkfuba07 wrote:
Erm, forgot to post in the voting thread earlier...still on page 74. Any reason I should vote anyone besides geript? Looks like votes aren't going to matter if geript's telling the truth...
Id like you to vote for geript even though it appears not to matter.
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On September 01 2013 09:14 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 09:12 Dandel Ion wrote:On September 01 2013 09:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Geript is town. No way scum has that kind of power. Free mislynch and NKs for them. uh, no. voterigger is a scum role. It's not so much a voterigger as it is a pardoner + unblockable dayvig Like, you noticed bh has EVERY vote on him, yes? Plus town voteriggers exist.
My problem is that does not look like a very good vig shot.
Geript please explain a towny why you used your virtual vig shot on BH,
and not on any of the other appropriate Vig targets?
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EBWOP
@Geript
please explain a towny why you used your virtual vig shot on BH,
and not on any of the other appropriate Vig targets?
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On September 01 2013 09:30 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 09:28 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 01 2013 09:14 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 01 2013 09:12 Dandel Ion wrote:On September 01 2013 09:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Geript is town. No way scum has that kind of power. Free mislynch and NKs for them. uh, no. voterigger is a scum role. It's not so much a voterigger as it is a pardoner + unblockable dayvig Like, you noticed bh has EVERY vote on him, yes? Plus town voteriggers exist. My problem is that does not look like a very good vig shot. Geript please explain a towny why you used your virtual vig shot on BH, and not on any of the other appropriate Vig targets? Because he's been tunneling bh all game. Axle can we try your thing again tomorrow or no?
I saw that (tunnel) and I asked him a question :\
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On September 01 2013 09:34 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 09:30 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 01 2013 09:28 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 01 2013 09:14 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 01 2013 09:12 Dandel Ion wrote:On September 01 2013 09:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Geript is town. No way scum has that kind of power. Free mislynch and NKs for them. uh, no. voterigger is a scum role. It's not so much a voterigger as it is a pardoner + unblockable dayvig Like, you noticed bh has EVERY vote on him, yes? Plus town voteriggers exist. My problem is that does not look like a very good vig shot. Geript please explain a towny why you used your virtual vig shot on BH, and not on any of the other appropriate Vig targets? Because he's been tunneling bh all game. Axle can we try your thing again tomorrow or no? I saw that (tunnel) and I asked him a question :\
Sorry. I forgot already that it was not totally clear the question was to him.
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On September 01 2013 09:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Geript shouldnt be lynched, this looks like a town role because its one guy deciding the lynch. Thats stupidly scum favored if hes mafia.
Big posts are i get home.
And what if stupidly scum favoured is balanced by town vigs, or scum numbers, or ....
I find easier to beat the scum playing the game than outguess the hosts.
I want Geript to explain his choice of target.
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+ Show Spoiler [LOL reply to Austin] +On August 30 2013 11:14 austinmcc wrote:
Geript, will you type a different number than 1000?
Like...say I had a cow to sell you and I'm not willing to part with it for less than $2000. But it's worth $10000, easy $8000 cow-profit for you. How much would you pay for my cow? I know your question wasn't to me. But I have different answer. Operating on the assumption that I am maximising the prospective personal return to me then unfortunately the problem is largely unsolvable as there are other complex parameters of the situation I would want to know. However to answer the question without asking for the extra info. Assuming reasonable values for those 'other complex parameters of the situation' then with a high degree of probability I would pay you between $4000 & $8000 in order to maximise. I really do rather like your questions.
@geript
So geript when will you be in the thread tonight(game time)?
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