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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 20:09 GMT
#3381
Yeah nolynch suggestion is pretty bad, but is cheese scum for it?
I've been assuming scum created the split world stuff because noflip is scum favoured, so why would scum bother if they would just suggest a nolynch anyway? Maybe I'm making too many assumptions though, hmm.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 20:21 GMT
#3387
Today
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 20:22 GMT
#3390
I'm thinking of switching but it's more because I think OO is town, rather than being certain debears is scum.
This situation sucks.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 20:25 GMT
#3391
coag vote also makes me nervous about a debears lynch
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 20:28 GMT
#3392
But yeah I think OO is town, which means his dayvig shot is real which means debears dead anyway. Here's hoping he's scum.

##Vote debears
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 21:31 GMT
#3400
Ofcourse you should weigh in Axle....

On September 07 2013 06:27 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm here on and off. You guys think OO is town? I'm on the fence about both of them but I just can't reconcile why he would shoot when he did.


I don't really understand it either but the shot makes no sense from either alignment. Just scratch it off as an emotional response I guess.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 21:33 GMT
#3403
On September 07 2013 06:32 Risen wrote:
Lol anyone voting debears over OO right now is pretty much claiming scum for reasons I stated earlier.


?

Care to explain it again, maybe use smaller words? Clearly I am not following.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 21:35 GMT
#3404
Risen saying there's 5 people that claimed scum (and OO and debears are both scum)
Am I understanding you right?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 21:41 GMT
#3411
On September 07 2013 06:37 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 06:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
Risen saying there's 5 people that claimed scum (and OO and debears are both scum)
Am I understanding you right?


I'm saying everyone who is present and has read the thread and my post outlining the double scum bus and still holds their vote on debears is scum.

So yeah, if you understand what I'm saying in my bolded post and have read the thread and still choose to vote debears you're scum.

Which makes sense since I probably called out OO's plan to later claim he was lying and get everyone to lynch debears.


I'm not confident in OO being scum. For a minute I thought about a scum powerplay but it makes less and less sense the more I think about it.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 21:47 GMT
#3415
The problem is, the shot is terrible for scum to claim, especially in the scenario you're describing. If OO and debears are both scum, why would OO claim a shot? Makes it much more likely for us to lynch OO to confirm that. It just seems nonsensical to do that, rather than just let the lynch go normally and let one of them get towncred.
I don't think they're both scum, with the way debears handled it. I think OO is town, so lynching debears and hoping he flips scum is the best play.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 21:49 GMT
#3416
In fact, if OO and debears were both scum and the shot existed, OO would be more likely to scumclaim and just shoot me or something, then we all treat it as a scumclaim and debears still gets the credit.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 21:56 GMT
#3422
No one is disagreeing that his shot is fucking dumb. But as you say it would make it even more certain that we would lynch him, where's the scum motivation there? Is debears really the best shot for scum OO to make if he was just going to peace out? Like, there's no thought there, just raw emotional shot. Wouldn't a scum dayvig select a better target? It's just pure emotion.
Too many things just don't make sense for OO to be scum in this situation
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 22:04 GMT
#3427
On September 07 2013 07:03 AxleGreaser wrote:
Why would town OO shoot debears?

Is he certain he is going to lose the duel? If he is not then he could well just have wasted the shot.

There is no plausible town reason to shoot Debears as town... when Its debars vs you in a lynch.

To do it as part of your own defence, when the veracity of it is not even known until after the flip...
is unfathomable
and has no plausible town explanation.

OO is scum lynch him.


You're saying he wouldn't do it as town so he's scum, but explain why he would do it as scum.
Do you believe they're both scum, Axle?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 22:08 GMT
#3431
@Hiro

I'm not overthinking it. OO's shot makes no sense from either alignment, if he's scum why not see how the lynch goes and only shoot someone if it turns out he's gonna get lynched? He made an emotional play, which alignment is more likely to do that?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 22:13 GMT
#3433
On September 07 2013 07:11 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 06:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ofcourse you should weigh in Axle....

On September 07 2013 06:27 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm here on and off. You guys think OO is town? I'm on the fence about both of them but I just can't reconcile why he would shoot when he did.


I don't really understand it either but the shot makes no sense from either alignment. Just scratch it off as an emotional response I guess.


Really? Scratch it off as an emotional response?
With people who have a meta as such (emotional ill considered actions) maybe...
(which is why theyd be potential policy lynches)

Surely OO can play, could have thought through his action?

There are ways it can make sense as scum...
Almost anything can as scum...

How does it hurt scum to do that? (fake claim a day vig shot?)


Because everyone is willing to lynch him immediately? Why would he fake it, let alone fake it on the only other guy that can be lynched.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 22:14 GMT
#3434
@Hiro

So scum OO either dayvigges a terrible target and guarantees him being lynched, or fakes a dayvig shot to guarantee him getting lynched?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 22:23 GMT
#3437
So now you're saying scum OO dayvigged debears with the expectation of possibly getting debears lynched? I realize that's happening but that's not something you foresee. Either you believe scum OO gave up and shot debears (a bad target) or town OO making an emotional play and shooting his scumread.
You can't tell me this is scum OO expecting to survive, that makes NO sense.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 22:24 GMT
#3438
ebwop @hiro
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 22:25 GMT
#3442
On September 07 2013 07:22 AxleGreaser wrote:
BTW there will be no Day vig if hes scum...


Explain this please, this seems to only make sense if they're both scum.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 06 2013 22:26 GMT
#3444
On September 07 2013 07:26 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 07:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 07 2013 07:22 AxleGreaser wrote:
BTW there will be no Day vig if hes scum...


Explain this please, this seems to only make sense if they're both scum.


It means the dayvig claim is fake. Which is what I've been trying to get through to you.


Yeah, which only makes sense if they're both scum which I do not buy. If they're both scum there was no need to fake a dayvig shot.
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