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On September 08 2013 14:19 Risen wrote:
I am keeper of the shattered bell. That's my role. My objective, since any third party looking to screw me likely already knows who I am, is to locate the shattered bell. Once I have located it the next time an item move happens I automatically receive it and use it to protect myself each night. I got incredibly lucky that alaka claimed having it and then died. If that was my role ok awesome, not so hard. HOWEVER, in addition to that I must steal 3 souls from a single individual. N1 I targeted mr cheese. N2 alaka so I could confirm the bell's position. Lady night was mr cheese again. So tomorrow night will be mr cheese the final time and all I have to do is live until night post, as in not get lynched.
I really want to say WAT to that... but no It despite being a shattered bell rings true.
except why are you bothering to tell scum not to shoot at you? or worried when they do?
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Hey actually lets just kill risen for fun 
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I'm 3P and my win con doesn't conflict with town or scum's why do that
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because if scum wastes kp on me and you guys win before I do I still lose
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On September 08 2013 14:34 Risen wrote:
because if scum wastes kp on me and you guys win before I do I still lose
But I just wanted to screw you over for good ole times :D
Gotta work with me here risen.
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I'm drunk for this shit. I'll figure out how much I've fucked up in the morning
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On September 08 2013 14:40 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2013 14:34 Risen wrote:
because if scum wastes kp on me and you guys win before I do I still lose But I just wanted to screw you over for good ole times :D Gotta work with me here risen.
+ Show Spoiler +I thought you just wanted to take him as your handmaiden into the beyond...
but sorry I checked my win con again, and I only vote lynch Risen if I think he's MOST likely to flip scum.
@Risen
still not exactly seeing how scum killing town people changes the rate at which we might lynch them(scum).
(According to you)
As they wasted a KP on you that makes the player list 1 larger than it was.
Thus as they shot you it is now harder for town to find scum?
Perhaps you had different idea about what would slow town down...
Also curious why you were concerned town would win quickly when yesterday was the first time we lynched scum and we had not shot Coag yet?
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On September 08 2013 14:48 Risen wrote:
I'm drunk for this shit. I'll figure out how much I've fucked up in the morning
@Risen....
So when you get up please to continue our Conversation.
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EBWOP
On September 08 2013 15:11 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2013 14:40 debears wrote:On September 08 2013 14:34 Risen wrote:
because if scum wastes kp on me and you guys win before I do I still lose But I just wanted to screw you over for good ole times :D Gotta work with me here risen. + Show Spoiler +I thought you just wanted to take him as your handmaiden into the beyond... but sorry I checked my win con again, and I only vote lynch Risen if I think he's MOST likely to flip scum. @Risen still not exactly seeing how scum killing town people changes the rate at which we might lynch them(scum). (According to you) As they wasted a KP on you that makes the player list 1 larger than it would have been if they targeted a towny. Thus as they shot you + Show Spoiler +(and there are more players alive than if they had shot a townie) it is now harder for town to find scum? Perhaps you had different idea about what would slow town down... Also curious why you were concerned town would win quickly when yesterday was the first time we lynched scum and we had not shot Coag yet?
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On September 08 2013 09:40 Cephiro wrote:
@ rayn: Please claim what ability the mafia has gained from Exeggutor dying. (Under the assumption you're not bullshitting about the whole ordeal)
No i killed Exeggutor. That was the mafia dudes pokemon. ^^
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I got one-shot mason for cycle for that. I'll mason someone at the nightpost.
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On September 08 2013 19:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got one-shot mason for cycle for that. I'll mason someone at the nightpost.
just want to check what this means...
You will submit an action during the day before the lynch and the 1 shot mason is for the night phase?
or
You will submit who you want to one shot mason during the night, and it start with the next day?
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You will submit who you want to one shot mason during the night, and it will only last the night.
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It'll last for a cycle, so night + day i'd guess if i send it this phase.
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On September 08 2013 20:13 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2013 19:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got one-shot mason for cycle for that. I'll mason someone at the nightpost. You will submit who you want to one shot mason during the night, and it will only last the night.
If its that one it would be wise to wait until the dust settles from the lynch.
(by that I mean an hour or two of think time)
I have questions I want to ask number of people today I am then hoping the lynch will clear stuff up.
@WOS See the vote and the relevant post.
That means if you are town we ought get this out of the way... k.
That means I not just asking to see if you answer or don't, I need to know.
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On September 08 2013 20:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It'll last for a cycle, so night + day i'd guess if i send it this phase.
Not asking or suggesting or hinting. Currently I have questions not answers.
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On September 08 2013 14:13 debears wrote:
Whyyyyyy am I still alive
(+3 fate) Once per game you can type ##Kill: <Player Name> in the thread anytime during the day to attack the player the next day (at the lynch) with your faster-than-light shuriken. Throwing your shuriken so fast that it travels through time allows you to lull your target into a false sense of security, so that when your attack hits the next day, it will pierce vet or medic protection on the target.
Read, please?
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On September 08 2013 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2013 09:40 Cephiro wrote:
@ rayn: Please claim what ability the mafia has gained from Exeggutor dying. (Under the assumption you're not bullshitting about the whole ordeal) No i killed Exeggutor. That was the mafia dudes pokemon. ^^
oooh...
You also know what power scum were trying to get?
(I presume they initiated the battle.)
decide if that is useful to you or everyone to know...
If only scum know then only scum know what their current problems/priorities are....
They could be chasing KP, or blocking, or a check, or a mason for them, or ...
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On September 08 2013 20:26 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2013 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2013 09:40 Cephiro wrote:
@ rayn: Please claim what ability the mafia has gained from Exeggutor dying. (Under the assumption you're not bullshitting about the whole ordeal) No i killed Exeggutor. That was the mafia dudes pokemon. ^^ oooh... You also know what power scum were trying to get? (I presume they initiated the battle.) decide if that is useful to you or everyone to know... If only scum know then only scum know what their current problems/priorities are.... They could be chasing KP, or blocking, or a check, or a mason for them, or ...
It depends on what pokemon dies. Mason is the worst of the powers. That's why i chose pikachu when i did.
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I still like a randombum or mrzentor lynch. I'm actually starting to lean more and more towards zentor.
First, reread my case, it still holds up (other than the scumslip, since geript flipped town): + Show Spoiler +On September 02 2013 04:27 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:21 MrZentor wrote:
The point of it is to tell everybody that if geript flips scum, we need to lynch somebody in that list.
That's all. The way you decide to do this is to write out all 7 names and call all seven "extremely suspicious". Instead of just saying "if geript flips red we should look at the people who vote felkyr" Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:33 MrZentor wrote:On September 02 2013 02:20 strongandbig wrote:On September 02 2013 01:54 MrZentor wrote:
I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.
We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript. What about me and my completely open attempt to persuade people not to vote geript? Did you read the thread or just the votes? Why would scum try to "save" geript if they knew the votes didnt matter anyway? And isn't trying to "save" geript only scummy if he flips scum? Or do you already know that he will? Yes, obviously there are people who tried to saved geript and didn't vote for felkyr, but they clearly weren't doing their best to save him and therefore not as likely to be scum . So he could wait to use his ability for when it would be much more useful? I should have been clear that I'm assuming geript flips scum. I think it's likely given the circumstances. It's also why I said the some of the people were "extremely suspicious" instead of saying that there were definitely scum in the list. Alright, let's just buy this explanation that you didn't scumslip and you were simply talking about a scenario where geript flips scum. How is trying to push a wagon that is not geript fine, but if it is felkyr it is extremely suspicious. stronganbig has it right. It seems like you haven't even read the game and you just went off the votecount to paint a wide array of people scummy. Not only did you backtrack from 100% certain geript will flip scum to "I dunno what he'll flip but if he flips scum blabla" But then there's this: Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:47 MrZentor wrote:On September 02 2013 02:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
How the fuck can you be extremely suspicious of 7 people for doing the exact same thing.
Can you narrow down the list, maybe? Because you didn't actually... do anything. I'm purposely not narrowing down the list until geript flips scum, because if he ends up not flipping scum, all the time spent narrowing down the list would be wasted. (Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town) This is some class A bullshit. You just explained why you don't wanna waste a bunch of time narrowing down the list, and then you immediately follow it by saying Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town. If it is obvious, why would you have to spend ANY amount of time on it? If it is obvious, why do you call EVERYONE on that list suspicious?? I try to make him clarify: Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:06 MrZentor wrote:On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet?????? You're kidding, right? Everybody knows which half it is. Zentor is saying everybody knows which of the people on that list are likely town. Then WHY DID YOU CALL EVERYONE ON THAT LIST EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS. Zentor cannot keep his story straight, which means he's not actually thinking about the game. His posts (especially this votecount analysis without context) are designed to make it look like he's thinking about the game. Therefore Zentor is scum.
Now let's look at his supposed townread on slam.
On September 03 2013 01:55 MrZentor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 03 2013 01:49 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 01:46 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:45 MrZentor wrote:
##vote Oatsmaster On September 03 2013 01:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on. No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him. A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him. Also, who are these people you speak of? Preferably people from the list of felkyr voters d1. So Oats is one. Please explain it though. Anyone else? Didn't we already agree his felkyr vote analysis shit is retarded? Especially since he missed out on cakepie entirely? Yeah, and he STUCK WITH IT. I don't care about his vote analysis, I care that he called 7 people suspicious, then said that half of them are obvious town. Today he said there are plenty of people who are more likely to be scum than alakaslam.MrZentor just keeps saying things without explaing WHO or WHY. It's because alakasam looks pretty townie. Basically, almost everybody looks scummy when compared to him because of that.
Slam looks pretty townie, everyone else looks scummy in comparison. So, this defense is weird for a townie to make.
I guess the thing we need to find out, to see where his motives lie, is WHY he came to that townread.
On September 03 2013 01:57 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:55 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:55 MrZentor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 03 2013 01:49 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 01:46 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:45 MrZentor wrote:
##vote Oatsmaster On September 03 2013 01:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on. No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him. A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him. Also, who are these people you speak of? Preferably people from the list of felkyr voters d1. So Oats is one. Please explain it though. Anyone else? Didn't we already agree his felkyr vote analysis shit is retarded? Especially since he missed out on cakepie entirely? Yeah, and he STUCK WITH IT. I don't care about his vote analysis, I care that he called 7 people suspicious, then said that half of them are obvious town. Today he said there are plenty of people who are more likely to be scum than alakaslam.MrZentor just keeps saying things without explaing WHO or WHY. It's because alakasam looks pretty townie. Basically, almost everybody looks scummy when compared to him because of that. PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR TOWNREAD ON ALAKASLAM THEN PLEASE. WHY IS THIS LIKE PULLING TEETH, FUCK I've explained this loads of times. Please reads my posts. Thanks.
I ask him, in all caps, cause I'm awesome. His reply is that he's explained it plenty. Okay let's look at his posts prior to this one regarding slam.
On September 03 2013 00:56 MrZentor wrote:
On one hand, I don't know why alaskam would say he had that item as mafia.
On the other, I don't know why alaskam would choose to use that item so soon as town.
On September 03 2013 01:13 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:07 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On September 03 2013 01:04 MrZentor wrote:
Actually, I would really like to kill oats.. Why should I over Alakunreadable? I've played with town Oats and mafia Oats before. Problem is, as both alignment he seems to give more fucks about the game. I just don't see any motive for Alakaslam to say that he was the one who shuffled the items as mafia. It just seems more like a thing a stupid townie would do. + Show Spoiler +
"But what if he expected you to think that way?" you ask.
It still would have been safer for him as mafia to simply not tell anybody than to hope that we don't kill him for what he did.
On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on. No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him. A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him.
These aren't townreads, these are "not scum" reads, which can easily be put as "not town" reads as well. There is a big fucking difference. Zentor called slam SO TOWNIE THAT EVERYONE ELSE LOOKS SCUM IN COMPARISON. And the reason for these words?
"Well..... his action makes no sense as either alignment"
Yeah, zentor trying to move the heat away from his scumbuddy, but not providing proper reasoning. Town try to figure things out and come to correct conclusions, scum make up conclusions to suit their goals, which in this case is survival.
The same as my older case, zentor cannot keep his story straight. He says he gave plenty of reasons for calling slam a shining beacon of green but HE HAS NOT.
##Vote MrZentor
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I'm even ignoring closed casket where he made no effort to do anything. Just acting confused.
And explaining how he has a useless role.
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