If we lynch debears OO will have this giant question mark over his head for the rest of the game. I'm not confident that he's scum but it's not like I have a major townread on him. Can you explain rayn?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 15:14 GMT

#3260

We could nolynch but that sounds like a pretty terrible idea. We have to hit scum and I think the cheese lynch in closed casket is a mistake. We get to see what slam flips and if he flips red then cheese is pretty much cleared. I'd lynch randombum there instead.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 15:22 GMT

#3263

Like, imagine you're town. debears nirvana strikes you and either you get lynched or debears get lynched, and your first instinct is to use your delayed dayvig on debears? Doesn't make sense. Why not try to get debears lynched first?
Can't make sense of it.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 15:45 GMT

#3268

Ugh.

I mean, he was right about the 3p read.... does that mean he knew too much or did he just have a very accurate read?
I likes OO's post about cakepie, but there was never any follow up or mention of cakepie again.

How does his reaction feel town rayn? The bring it attitude was but the shot makes no fucking sense as either alignment, which makes me think it's just scum giving up?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 15:45 GMT

#3269

On September 07 2013 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So if i understan this correctly. If debears is lynched, OO lives. If OO is lynched, both die.
Is this correct?

I think OO is town and we should lynch debears.

Exception is if OO is lying about the shot.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 16:15 GMT

#3273

On September 07 2013 01:13 VisceraEyes wrote:

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This is bullshit. I think what you mean is "scum are more likely to hunt for 3p over hunting for scum" but simply calling someone 3p doesn't make OO scum. Are YOU scum rayn?

He's not or the other pokemon dude would come out already. Stop playing for scum VE, we need you.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 16:49 GMT

#3292

On September 07 2013 01:48 debears wrote:
4) OO's vote was pretty darn scumtastic, enough to the point where I believe he would be autolynched in nearly any game for what he said

So you're nirvana striking for towncred?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 17:04 GMT

#3302

On September 07 2013 02:02 debears wrote:

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Why would I try to lynch someone who has a legitimate town claim? If he had a legitimate, no doubts role claim I probably would cede myself at this point. The thing is, his claim is far from legitimate at this point.

I think his point is you gave him no chance. You seemed really certain that he's scum despite him not having claimed anything.
What if he DID have a legitimate townclaim, and he used it right after you nirvana strike, then you get lynched, yes?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 17:15 GMT

#3311

It's 3 and 4 that I am having issues with. If you were so sure OO would get lynched for that votepost, why even bother nirvana striking? You told me you didn't even consider it regarding austin (before you read the cell stuff)
What's different?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 17:27 GMT

#3315

Ok right you did say you considered it, bad memory. But notice with austin you said you didn't even need it to lynch austin, did you feel you needed it to lynch OO?

On September 07 2013 01:48 debears wrote:
4) OO's vote was pretty darn scumtastic, enough to the point where I believe he would be autolynched in nearly any game for what he said

This post implies no.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 17:34 GMT

#3320

Wow. Is it possible you're actually both scum? I don't understand why you care so much for appearances.
The OO lynch was clearly possible, and the reason you nirvana striked was so that you took the credit instead of shiaopi and no one would call you out for bussing?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 17:35 GMT

#3321

What townie jumps on a wagon because he thinks the wagon is on scum, and then thinks "fuck it looks like I'm bussing and I won't get any credit for lynching scum!"

Help me understand debears

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 17:44 GMT

#3330

On September 07 2013 02:42 debears wrote:
seriously, at this point, one of two things happen

1) I get lynched. Ok no sweat
2) OO is lynched. I gain insta town cred. I don't have to defend myself for a whole day anymore.

I could have taken the non-nirvana strike route

1) possibly get OO lynched
2) possbily someone else get lynched
3) possibly I get lynched
4) defend myself for a whole day
5) defend myself for the next "x" lynches after that after surviving today's lynch

Which looks more appealing to you/>?

So you're really 100% on him flipping scum?

On September 07 2013 02:40 Risen wrote:

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I don't know what you're not getting. The line of thinking is easy to follow. OO is lying > debears isn't dead and we lynched a liar. OO is telling the truth revealed when he dies > debears is dead let's not waste a lynch on a confirmed death.

Also, why/how did OO know he was going to live long enough to use his day-vig ability? Doesn't seem like a dayvig would rely on living so long.

This is a good point.

UGH

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

September 06 2013 17:47 GMT

#3335

debears, can you explain what happened to your geript read? The start of d2 you're willing to martyr yourself to kill geript, but your vote never ends up on him and instead you voted hassy at some point without reasons.