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On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on. No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him. A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him.
Also, who are these people you speak of? Preferably people from the list of felkyr voters d1.
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On September 03 2013 01:28 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I'll admit Alakaslam is stupid if he's mafia. He hasn't show me any evidence that he isn't stupid, however. It's not stupid at all, from what I understood two town members were going to receive very powerful items in conjunction with their roles and he stopped that. For some one who is a policy lynch at best, that's about the most useful he could be to his team ever.
Yeah but the stupid part is mentioning the item day 1.
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On September 03 2013 01:45 MrZentor wrote: ##vote Oatsmaster
On September 03 2013 01:28 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on. No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him. A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him. Also, who are these people you speak of? Preferably people from the list of felkyr voters d1.
So Oats is one. Please explain it though. Anyone else?
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On September 03 2013 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:46 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:45 MrZentor wrote: ##vote Oatsmaster On September 03 2013 01:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on. No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him. A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him. Also, who are these people you speak of? Preferably people from the list of felkyr voters d1. So Oats is one. Please explain it though. Anyone else? Didn't we already agree his felkyr vote analysis shit is retarded? Especially since he missed out on cakepie entirely?
Yeah, and he STUCK WITH IT. I don't care about his vote analysis, I care that he called 7 people suspicious, then said that half of them are obvious town. Today he said there are plenty of people who are more likely to be scum than alakaslam. MrZentor just keeps saying things without explaing WHO or WHY.
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On September 03 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote: ok sorry just read through like 30-40 pages, cant remember all the questions directed at me besides ceph's hilarious case and everyone calling me scummy but not voting for me.
I think clarity is scum now because he doesnt want to kill confirmed scum today.
Everyone keeps using the word confirmed. You should get a dictionary.
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On September 03 2013 01:55 MrZentor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 03 2013 01:49 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 01:46 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:45 MrZentor wrote: ##vote Oatsmaster On September 03 2013 01:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 01:24 MrZentor wrote:Yeah Z, it's a bunch of wifom either way. I just can't think of a reason to not lynch alakaslam :D So is the Hiro attacking BH thing, but that we actually have a flip on. No, it really isn't. If you think alakaslam is mafia, you have to admit he took an unnecessary risk, (how large the risk is is the only wifom bit); I can't rationalize why he would do this as mafia, and if you can't either, you shouldn't be voting for him. A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, which is quite a good reason to not lynch him. Also, who are these people you speak of? Preferably people from the list of felkyr voters d1. So Oats is one. Please explain it though. Anyone else? Didn't we already agree his felkyr vote analysis shit is retarded? Especially since he missed out on cakepie entirely? Yeah, and he STUCK WITH IT. I don't care about his vote analysis, I care that he called 7 people suspicious, then said that half of them are obvious town. Today he said there are plenty of people who are more likely to be scum than alakaslam.MrZentor just keeps saying things without explaing WHO or WHY. It's because alakasam looks pretty townie. Basically, almost everybody looks scummy when compared to him because of that.
PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR TOWNREAD ON ALAKASLAM THEN PLEASE. WHY IS THIS LIKE PULLING TEETH, FUCK
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PS too stupid to be scum is not an argument.
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On September 03 2013 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote: what clarity?
What?
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On September 03 2013 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote: dont you want to talk to me about your scumread on me or my scumread on you?
Your scumread on me is based on the fact that you think geript is 100% scum, and I as scum don't wanna kill him despite him being 100% scum. What's there to talk about? I'm not talking about my read on you because I have no real read on you. slight scum lean I guess? There are better lynches and if you're town eventually you'll be useful.
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On September 03 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay what the fuck is this? At the last couple of pages noone has said anything relevant to the game and it's hard to read. What is the case on Oats?
rayn why are you barely posting for your standards? You've complained about useless posts and setup speculation twice now but you have a 4 page filter and two of those are dedicated to pokemon...
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On September 03 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 02:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay what the fuck is this? At the last couple of pages noone has said anything relevant to the game and it's hard to read. What is the case on Oats? rayn why are you barely posting for your standards? You've complained about useless posts and setup speculation twice now but you have a 4 page filter and two of those are dedicated to pokemon... What do you want me to talk about? I want to lynch geript and Alkaslam because i think they are scum. The pokemon stuff is important. I answered SnB's post about kita, i am questioning ShiaoPi and SnB atm. What do you want to know?
No I'm genuinely asking why you seem so disinterested and why you're posting so much less compared to every game I've seen you play in. geript and alakaslam are good lynches but I'm used to seeing new ideas or thoughts from you. Yamato pointed it out n1 and he's dead so I'm following up for him.
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On September 03 2013 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because there are (were) 31 people in the game. I certainly have no time to read them all because there is another game going on at the same time. I was also quite busy during weekend because of my fail with the keys and because of the voice mafia and other stuff i needed to do.
I have quite a lot of townreads. At the moment i am trying to find out what the deal with SnB and ShiaoPi is, because that might allow me find scum. Or town.
Is there someone i should be reading? I have not really payed attention because i wanted to lynch geript on D1 and i still want to lynch him. I can find the rest of the scum later, but if you got some suggestions please share, i will look at them.
opinion on hiro just because he's been quite a discussion point. Then if you wanna find scum instead, read randombum and debears. Kita also isn't a bad one to read.
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On September 03 2013 02:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 02:38 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because there are (were) 31 people in the game. I certainly have no time to read them all because there is another game going on at the same time. I was also quite busy during weekend because of my fail with the keys and because of the voice mafia and other stuff i needed to do.
I have quite a lot of townreads. At the moment i am trying to find out what the deal with SnB and ShiaoPi is, because that might allow me find scum. Or town.
Is there someone i should be reading? I have not really payed attention because i wanted to lynch geript on D1 and i still want to lynch him. I can find the rest of the scum later, but if you got some suggestions please share, i will look at them. opinion on hiro just because he's been quite a discussion point. Then if you wanna find scum instead, read randombum and debears. Kita also isn't a bad one to read. I'm listening Clarity, please continue.
Hi cheesecake, I like your oats case. I think it says more about your alignment than his, though.
randombum I've already explained.
debears: mainly the fact that he's done nothing aside from his martyr. At first glance it might look townie right? "look guys I'll kill myself because I'm so certain he's scum" But his plan is so bad, people WILL so know, and both scum and town debears know that. So who benefits from posting a plan while knowing it'll get rejected? Town sure don't.
Also note how he never even tries to get geript lynched regularly, even after people explain that him being able to voterig TWICE would be game breaking.
Then there's also his unexplained vote on hiro. Which is weird seeing as he seems so certain geript is scum:
On September 03 2013 01:08 Clarity_nl wrote: My problem with the hiro lynch comes down to this: If geript and hiro are both scum, why would hiro attack blazinghand so heavily hours before he flips town? If you're debears and you think they're both scum and have read both their filters in context, surely this would stand out to you? Then again if you're scum it's hard to think from that point of view, or you just don't read filters and make shit up.
Kita because I'm super torn on him and rayn has fresh eyes.
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ebwop people WILL so know = people won't let him do it
I really dunno how I typed "people WILL so know" or what I meant.
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Wait rayn is on the same page as me WTF. Does that mean you're scum or town rayn?!?! :D
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On September 03 2013 02:59 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 02:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Summary of cakepie case: - His name is garbs. cheesecake bezt. - And: On September 01 2013 00:32 cakepie wrote:ack, dozed off --- + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2013 21:55 cakepie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Also Felkyr is totally scum man. Dont be fooled by newb townie, even any new townplayer wouldve at least done something other than SETUP SPECULATION. Its the easiest thing to pick up on for new scum because the thoughts surrounding them arent fake. brb, taking another look I ain't exactly got spidey senses screaming to me that he is confirmed scum. My read on him (newbie null) sits precariously and could swing to scummy in a real jiffy if, say, he responds poorly or incorrectly under pressure. Scum scum scum scum scum I'm actually not entirely sure about cakepie. His last post responding to me seems pretty genuinely upset lol. Right now there are a lot of people in this game who haven't really done anything of note but have somehow avoided all attention. We should probably be lynching into this group - they're our best chance of hitting mafia. ObviousOne is a good example of this. The majority of his day 1 play appears unusually hesitant almost as if he's reluctant to actually call anyone out: Show nested quote + Or your guy Felkyr, though there's something to perhaps counter that. Once upon a time, VE apologized before leaving for having to leave the thread to go to work and people went nuts on him, and he was town. He was just being courteous. Is Felkyr just being courteous in the post you quoted? Like, just out of virtue of who he is? Can't know, first game.
Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 03:32 ObviousOne wrote:On August 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote: hai guys catching up On August 31 2013 00:06 ShiaoPi wrote: skimmed all over this thread, lets go kill WoS? only one who stuck out for me in this initial read
##Vote: WaveofShadow Maybe this one if it's going to live in a perpetual state of catch-up? It's hard to pick. WOS voted Shiao back, this whole thing kinda went nowhere. Can we get some resolution between you two? Hug it out? Fight it out? 20 paces and draw lightsabers? Furthermore, the one post in which he actually offers any sort of analysis/argument (on myself) is very similar to the arguments that multiple other people have brought up and also contains such nonsense as: Show nested quote +Being Brown is the essence of being unreadable. --> There's only really one question here: does Hiro's role have anything to do with Chezinu or the Brotherhood of the Brown? If so, who is the scribe? If not, there's no reason for him to be brown. Also, he's doing Brown wrong. I'd like for everyone to share their opinions about him.
How about randombum instead? I kinda liked OO's last post. They both have less than a page but randombum looks worse IMO
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On September 03 2013 03:07 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 03:04 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 02:59 HiroPro wrote:On September 03 2013 02:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Summary of cakepie case: - His name is garbs. cheesecake bezt. - And: On September 01 2013 00:32 cakepie wrote:ack, dozed off --- + Show Spoiler +On August 31 2013 21:55 cakepie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Also Felkyr is totally scum man. Dont be fooled by newb townie, even any new townplayer wouldve at least done something other than SETUP SPECULATION. Its the easiest thing to pick up on for new scum because the thoughts surrounding them arent fake. brb, taking another look I ain't exactly got spidey senses screaming to me that he is confirmed scum. My read on him (newbie null) sits precariously and could swing to scummy in a real jiffy if, say, he responds poorly or incorrectly under pressure. Scum scum scum scum scum I'm actually not entirely sure about cakepie. His last post responding to me seems pretty genuinely upset lol. Right now there are a lot of people in this game who haven't really done anything of note but have somehow avoided all attention. We should probably be lynching into this group - they're our best chance of hitting mafia. ObviousOne is a good example of this. The majority of his day 1 play appears unusually hesitant almost as if he's reluctant to actually call anyone out: Or your guy Felkyr, though there's something to perhaps counter that. Once upon a time, VE apologized before leaving for having to leave the thread to go to work and people went nuts on him, and he was town. He was just being courteous. Is Felkyr just being courteous in the post you quoted? Like, just out of virtue of who he is? Can't know, first game.
On August 31 2013 03:32 ObviousOne wrote:On August 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote: hai guys catching up On August 31 2013 00:06 ShiaoPi wrote: skimmed all over this thread, lets go kill WoS? only one who stuck out for me in this initial read
##Vote: WaveofShadow Maybe this one if it's going to live in a perpetual state of catch-up? It's hard to pick. WOS voted Shiao back, this whole thing kinda went nowhere. Can we get some resolution between you two? Hug it out? Fight it out? 20 paces and draw lightsabers? Furthermore, the one post in which he actually offers any sort of analysis/argument (on myself) is very similar to the arguments that multiple other people have brought up and also contains such nonsense as: Being Brown is the essence of being unreadable. --> There's only really one question here: does Hiro's role have anything to do with Chezinu or the Brotherhood of the Brown? If so, who is the scribe? If not, there's no reason for him to be brown. Also, he's doing Brown wrong. I'd like for everyone to share their opinions about him. How about randombum instead? I kinda liked OO's last post. They both have less than a page but randombum looks worse IMO Explain it to me.
Alright so when deciding between the two let's ignore that they both have 1 page of filter. OO's posts tend to have some insight or original thoughts in them, for example: - weird vayne 3p read - snb seems to be okay with a lot of lynches - cakepie is a coinflip - hiro stopping axle plan instead of asking about it makes him scum
I'm not saying I agree with these things but at least they're there.
I dare you to make a similar list about randombum. All he has are questions and filler.
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Nah it wasn't. I don't think hiro is scum at this time but his case wasn't that bad.
Hiro refused to go along with the plan and thus had something to fear. --> No statement that it would contradict his own powers or play, simply disregarded it entirely on some crazy power scheme. Where does Hiro get the idea that Axle is going to empower the people voting for him? I'm not seeing it. I see Axle trying to further his own goals with these votes. I like this part particularly.
Besides, BH also had a scumread on hiro at that time too so unless you're calling him bad too...
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Oats other than geript and alakaslam who do you think is scum?
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Is the only reason you have a scumread on me the fact that I'm not that interested in lynching geript? If not, explain further.
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