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AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 08:02 GMT
#3669
EBWOP
On September 08 2013 15:11 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 14:40 debears wrote:
On September 08 2013 14:34 Risen wrote:
because if scum wastes kp on me and you guys win before I do I still lose


But I just wanted to screw you over for good ole times :D

Gotta work with me here risen.


+ Show Spoiler +
I thought you just wanted to take him as your handmaiden into the beyond...


but sorry I checked my win con again, and I only vote lynch Risen if I think he's MOST likely to flip scum.

@Risen
still not exactly seeing how scum killing town people changes the rate at which we might lynch them(scum).

(According to you)
As they wasted a KP on you that makes the player list 1 larger than it would have been if they targeted a towny.
Thus as they shot you + Show Spoiler +
(and there are more players alive than if they had shot a townie)
it is now harder for town to find scum?

Perhaps you had different idea about what would slow town down...

Also curious why you were concerned town would win quickly when yesterday was the first time we lynched scum and we had not shot Coag yet?


Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 11:13 GMT
#3672
On September 08 2013 19:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got one-shot mason for cycle for that. I'll mason someone at the nightpost.


just want to check what this means...

You will submit an action during the day before the lynch and the 1 shot mason is for the night phase?

or

You will submit who you want to one shot mason during the night, and it start with the next day?

or

You will submit who you want to one shot mason during the night, and it will only last the night.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 11:18 GMT
#3674
On September 08 2013 20:13 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 19:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got one-shot mason for cycle for that. I'll mason someone at the nightpost.


You will submit who you want to one shot mason during the night, and it will only last the night.


If its that one it would be wise to wait until the dust settles from the lynch.
(by that I mean an hour or two of think time)

I have questions I want to ask number of people today I am then hoping the lynch will clear stuff up.




@WOS See the vote and the relevant post.

That means if you are town we ought get this out of the way... k.
That means I not just asking to see if you answer or don't, I need to know.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 11:20 GMT
#3675
On September 08 2013 20:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It'll last for a cycle, so night + day i'd guess if i send it this phase.


Not asking or suggesting or hinting. Currently I have questions not answers.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 11:26 GMT
#3677
On September 08 2013 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 09:40 Cephiro wrote:
@ rayn: Please claim what ability the mafia has gained from Exeggutor dying. (Under the assumption you're not bullshitting about the whole ordeal)

No i killed Exeggutor. That was the mafia dudes pokemon. ^^


oooh...
You also know what power scum were trying to get?
(I presume they initiated the battle.)

decide if that is useful to you or everyone to know...

If only scum know then only scum know what their current problems/priorities are....

They could be chasing KP, or blocking, or a check, or a mason for them, or ...
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 12:16 GMT
#3682
@Clarity
Yesterday at one point you asked me how many mislynches we had left.

Times have moved on bit :)))))) (I hope)

I ask this question because I want to know (aka I lack any real idea)
Do you have guess for how many scum might be left?

AFAIK a straight up VT 31 game would have about 6?

Aperture (Portal Mafia) had (T=17, 3rd=10, S=4)

Does that seem in the ball park for this one? 4-5 scum depending on the actual number of (3rds, 4th, 5ths...)

There are 11 dead Townies...
Last night there were two unclaimed kills... (Except risen claims a hit... )
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 12:19 GMT
#3683
On September 08 2013 21:00 Cephiro wrote:
Alright. Hiro, once you're on and actively reading the thread, inform me here in the thread. I'm decided on the target now. I want you to use the item on that person instantly once I call the target, is that fine with you regardless of whom I choose?


You are trying to get lynched aren't you?
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 12:55 GMT
#3686
On September 08 2013 21:27 Cephiro wrote:
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On September 08 2013 21:19 AxleGreaser wrote:
On September 08 2013 21:00 Cephiro wrote:
Alright. Hiro, once you're on and actively reading the thread, inform me here in the thread. I'm decided on the target now. I want you to use the item on that person instantly once I call the target, is that fine with you regardless of whom I choose?


You are trying to get lynched aren't you?


You want to lynch a town vig? Are you out of your mind? And no, I have my reasons to call for the usage instantly.


No / Frequently / Just making sure you understand how bad instant without good reasons look if you miss.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 12:59 GMT
#3688
On September 08 2013 21:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 21:16 AxleGreaser wrote:
@Clarity
Yesterday at one point you asked me how many mislynches we had left.

Times have moved on bit :)))))) (I hope)

I ask this question because I want to know (aka I lack any real idea)
Do you have guess for how many scum might be left?

AFAIK a straight up VT 31 game would have about 6?

Aperture (Portal Mafia) had (T=17, 3rd=10, S=4)

Does that seem in the ball park for this one? 4-5 scum depending on the actual number of (3rds, 4th, 5ths...)

There are 11 dead Townies...
Last night there were two unclaimed kills... (Except risen claims a hit... )


I've been working under the assumption of there being 6-7 scum total. But it's hard to tell with this setup, especially since the nightkill numbers show no pattern.

What do you think of MrZentor?


Not where i have been looking and I threw everything i thought i knew out and started again with the flips.

get coffee and read again shouldnt take that long as I recall Mr Z.

Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 13:02 GMT
#3689
On September 08 2013 21:58 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 21:55 AxleGreaser wrote:
On September 08 2013 21:27 Cephiro wrote:
On September 08 2013 21:19 AxleGreaser wrote:
On September 08 2013 21:00 Cephiro wrote:
Alright. Hiro, once you're on and actively reading the thread, inform me here in the thread. I'm decided on the target now. I want you to use the item on that person instantly once I call the target, is that fine with you regardless of whom I choose?


You are trying to get lynched aren't you?


You want to lynch a town vig? Are you out of your mind? And no, I have my reasons to call for the usage instantly.


No / Frequently / Just making sure you understand how bad instant without good reasons look if you miss.


Ah yes, I understand that. However, a town vig has to take risks sometimes. I know my reasoning, but I am not going to reveal it unless Hiro performs the action on the target of my choice. After that is done, I will. If I miss, so be it, but I am only trying for town's best. I already missed once, but I already hit once as well. Could be doing worse.

Even if I don't hit scum, you should focus on finding them instead of wondering why I shot person X. (I'm town, that fact ain't changing no matter how much we talk about it so it's pointless.) No point in wasting time with that, rather move along and find the next target instead.



Just kicking tires... until some instant shot stops me finding out stuff I need to know to find scum
Then I go back and reconsider what was impossible.


Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 13:27 GMT
#3690
On September 08 2013 21:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 21:16 AxleGreaser wrote:
@Clarity
Yesterday at one point you asked me how many mislynches we had left.

Times have moved on bit :)))))) (I hope)

I ask this question because I want to know (aka I lack any real idea)
Do you have guess for how many scum might be left?

AFAIK a straight up VT 31 game would have about 6?

Aperture (Portal Mafia) had (T=17, 3rd=10, S=4)

Does that seem in the ball park for this one? 4-5 scum depending on the actual number of (3rds, 4th, 5ths...)

There are 11 dead Townies...
Last night there were two unclaimed kills... (Except risen claims a hit... )


I've been working under the assumption of there being 6-7 scum total. But it's hard to tell with this setup, especially since the nightkill numbers show no pattern.

What do you think of MrZentor?


I and you had different reads on Alak (I was wwwwwwrong)
so I can sympathise easier with where MrZ was at D1.
I was still surprised when he flipped I will have to go back and find out why I was so wrong after the game.

However MrZ's "A lot of people are more likely to be scum than alakaslam, " seems wrong
Alak started at unreadable and stayed there. It would be hard for there to be lot more likely than that.

Mainly I think its still early and i have other rocks to look under.

Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 15:16 GMT
#3692
On September 08 2013 22:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
I was surprised too but only because I didn't expect scum to tempban themselves on TL
It's not the fact that he didn't believe slam was scum like I did, it's that he had a firm townread on him, which he never explained.

What rocks are you planning to look under Axle?


barnacle covered granite ones have always appealed.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 17:13 GMT
#3715
On September 09 2013 02:07 MrZentor wrote:
If you had asked, I could have proven myself to be a townie.



Which is and was the problem with using it instantly... instead of as a threat to get info...

However I am not currently clear are you still with us and posting? or were they mumbles after being crushed but going to flip at lynch time.

and Oh LOL

This was not any kind of rock I was going to be looking under....

Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 17:14 GMT
#3716
On September 09 2013 02:11 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 02:07 MrZentor wrote:
If you had asked, I could have proven myself to be a townie.


You still could. Sometimes, rash actions have to be taken. If you are indeed town, my apologies, but brave plays have to be made.


SO do you care to explain why it had to be without warning?
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 17:15 GMT
#3718
On September 09 2013 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In case the cop who copped ShioPi and Felkyr is legit i pretty much see no other options for scum than randombum and WoS. Everyone else looks more or less town.


yeah well that is clearly one rock I am waiting for answer about.

also waiting for Risen to wake up as I recall it.

Also if peeps that haven't posted in the thread are lurking ... say hi.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 17:17 GMT
#3719
On September 09 2013 02:15 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 02:14 AxleGreaser wrote:
SO do you care to explain why it had to be without warning?


Think. Thiiiiiink.


Its a no then Ok.

I always think I sometimes get more than one answer to one question and it confusals me.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 17:18 GMT
#3720
On September 09 2013 02:07 MrZentor wrote:
If you had asked, I could have proven myself to be a townie.


Proven usually means something different to most people that use it than me.

How could you have proven it?
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 17:25 GMT
#3721
On September 09 2013 02:07 MrZentor wrote:
If you had asked, I could have proven myself to be a townie.



better yet...

I believe Clarity Asked you rather explicitly earlier by voting to lynch you.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=3679&topic_id=424349
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 17:28 GMT
#3722
So Random Bum anything to say for yourself?
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 08 2013 17:46 GMT
#3723
@WOS

It is getting buried so please see this post

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19698923

I realise that is an open ended question but when you turn up I can ask smaller ones..
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