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On August 07 2013 14:37 Mocsta wrote: Btw wtf is a silent deadlineless night... Surely if silent, night can be capped to 24hrs...... Hmmm perhaps a opened mechanic will be revealed probably a random amount between 6-12 hours after night actions submitted. | ||
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kenpachi rule! BAM! | ||
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On August 07 2013 16:03 geript wrote: No. Play the game. There is no kenpachi rule other than if he and only he says starsenses. Y U SO BAD OATS? kenpachi rule is how I caught rayn in I swear 2. dont shittalk it boy im vt | ||
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On August 07 2013 16:07 phagga wrote: Why do you answer my question with a question? Seriously though, I don't see a reason to instaclaim until you have a decent plan that hinges on claiming. So far I'm not seeing how we benefit of giving out this information. Keep town on a need to know basis. you lynchproof? | ||
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Phagga is either jester or scum playing as jester. | ||
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YOU CAUGHT BRO | ||
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On August 07 2013 16:12 geript wrote: Oats... your role before I shoot you. with your imaginary gun? | ||
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On August 07 2013 16:15 geript wrote: I'll draw a pretty picture of you later k dear. qtpie | ||
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On August 07 2013 16:31 phagga wrote: Ok, I have my own thoughts on this for later, but I guess it's worth a try. I'm VT. Which obviously means that at least one of you two is lying. or you could be lying. Explain bad things about claiming NOW. | ||
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On August 07 2013 16:38 phagga wrote: I don't want to explain it because it might influence the claims. So I'd like to wait until these are over. ?????????????????????????????? | ||
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seriously guys... Phagga is probably jester. Mocsta/Hapa might be scum, hapa posted 1 no content post. | ||
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On August 07 2013 20:04 Mocsta wrote: Thnx for the lolz no1 claimed jester Read before you Post ffs (1) Why is Geript off ya list? (2) Why is hapa scum when hes in a valid timezone for sleeping...? 1) geript started it with a plan. within like 5 minutes of the game starting. I dunno, but I feel that its unlikely for scum to do that. 2) He had enough time to post 1 post. Its absolutely useless. I know no one claimed jester, I have no idea what phagga is saying about jester claiming jester or scum claiming jester. NO ONE WOULD DO THAT. Why? Because if you have 2 jesterclaims, you have to look scummier than the real jester. A bit difficult. And the jester will claim if scum claims jester I feel. So no one claims jester. | ||
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On August 07 2013 20:28 phagga wrote: Because I did not see any good reason in doing so. Why give out information if it doesn't benefit town? That's why I asked what geript had in mind. what information? That you are a vt? How does that benefit scum? Im currently thinking you were stalling for time to see what other people do phagga. Which means you arent town. | ||
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On August 07 2013 20:51 phagga wrote: - I wanted to know what geripts plan was. No matter what role I have, I wanted that information first. Part of this is that he is more likely to give me information if I withhold the information he wants from me. - Only you and geript had claimed at that point. If I would think that geripts plan was harmful, I would still have had a chance to stop the other two from claiming. But it looks kinda stupid if I just claim VT and then tell the others they should not claim for whatever reason. What? So you dont actually have a reason for not claiming. Huh. Why wont geript as town tell you the plan? Like I dont see why your actions would affect when he tells us the plan. Ego a bit large? | ||
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On August 07 2013 21:01 phagga wrote: I wrote my reasons for withholding the information, you just seem unable to understand them. Why do you know that geript is town? And again, why put out information about our roles into the thread if there is no benefit for town? That's why I first wanted to know what his plan is. I think geript is town. You do too if you are town. Stop saying 'information'. Its not like scum doesnt know it already. Therefore you would only be telling town. And thats a good thing. Your reasons for withholding your role name, vt, dont make any sense. You wanted to make geript say something? is that right?. | ||
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On August 07 2013 21:26 phagga wrote: Yes, I do. When geript asked everyone to claim, my reaction was not "oh well, claiming VT is useless information, I might as well claim". I thought "Why does he want everyone to claim? What's the ieea behind it?". And for that thought my own role was absolutely irrelevant. All I wanted is to know why he thinks it's a good idea to claim. Oats, what do you think of Mocsta so far? I'm at work and have a meeting in 30 minutes, need to prepare. Will be offline for a few hours. I dunno about Mocsta. firmly null. Why do you think he wanted everyone to claim? What benefit does mass claiming have for scum? | ||
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Wait so you objected to Geript's plan WITHOUT THINKING OF A DOWNSIDE TO IT ![]() | ||
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On August 08 2013 02:55 phagga wrote: The reason I objected had to do with the fact hat I tried to figure out geripts intentions and that I think town should be kept on a need to know basis. need to know? Like need to know you are a VT? We really need to know that. You definetely arent town. Scum or Jester. | ||
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On August 08 2013 03:06 phagga wrote: Oats, learn to read. fuck you. | ||
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On August 08 2013 06:41 Hapahauli wrote: Obviously things early in the game won't be damning, but of all the players in the game that have posted so far, Mocsta looks by far the worst. Oats is being very confrontational/spazzy, which is pretty semblant of his townplay. Phagga sounds extremely paranoid (townie) in reaction to Mocsta's "jester" thing. You have your try-hard pants on. This statment. Im town, phagga's town, geript's town. Oh wait. Hapa cant be town then. Yeah so phagga and hapa are the anti town factions. Which one is scum and which one is jester though. | ||
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On August 08 2013 16:00 Hapahauli wrote: [/b]No, but a Jester won't necessarily reveal his/her hand this soon. You have to balance being scummy with being laughably obvious. Just because you don't understand my explanation doesn't mean I didn't explain it. As said twice before, there's simply no merit in having the unlynchable townie claim now. Why out a blue when we don't need to? He can claim at [i]any time. Best case scenario for town is to have him live to tomorrow and THEN claim. So we have determined that Jester wont play like town. Who are you possible jesters Hapa? | ||
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On August 08 2013 16:25 phagga wrote: Hapa: What do you think of Mocsta? What do you make of his reaction to my accusation? Oats: you said earlier that Hapa and me are the anti-town forces. Why do you think Mocsta is town? cause mocsta feels like town. | ||
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Ok hapa is scum. I BELIEVE. ##vote Hapa | ||
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On August 08 2013 17:13 phagga wrote: What makes you feel his town? Can you elaborate a bit? Can you point to something? I wrote some posts up why I think Mocsta is not town because he's not trying to figure things out, what do you say about that? oh what. Cause mocsta playing the game man, longest filter I think, trying to find out shit. I disagree with you on that point btw. I dont think you gave a good reason for not claiming. And you keep repeating the same bad reason. No wonder Mocsta aint happy. Reasons for Hapa after Geript gives reasons for me. Although, Hapa not invested in this game at all, and I dont think he is jester. | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:01 geript wrote: Oats totes scum that's y I vote oats thats my line. | ||
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I think he was too obvious at the start too be scum. | ||
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Mocsta you didnt convince me ![]() HAPA!! | ||
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On August 09 2013 14:11 phagga wrote: Oats, I would like to hear your thoughts on the situation. Hapa, you seem to have zero interest in playing the game, what's going on? What's your stance on Mocsta now? What do you think of geripts behaviour? 5 new posts in 7 hours? This is most dissappointing. yeah I wanna kill hapa cause I think hes scum and I think you are jester. I dunno though, hapa isnt even trying. He might be the jester. Or geript looked too townie and is the jester trying to do stupid shit. I DUNNO. SO HARD> | ||
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On August 09 2013 10:35 Mocsta wrote: Oats. Lets make this majority happen no im not gonna lose cause you want to kill the possible jester. | ||
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On August 09 2013 15:51 Mocsta wrote: I get the concern , however I still think hapa has displayed a lack of motivation in posts I would have associated with being jester. One of hapa only passionate posts was where we went through phsgga filter to explain why he wasn't jester...perhaps this was easy to do merely because hapa IS the jester. Oats. My position is clear and the power of day1 still lies with u. it likes with you too. You could vote for hapa. | ||
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On August 09 2013 16:05 Mocsta wrote: Well I prefer hapa as jester so don't feel safe with my vote there currently. So Talk to me. We clearly feel hapa IS anti town. However why mafia vs jester? Lol. I feel that hapa as jester will play not so scumlike. This feels a ton like Hapa's scum play which could be intentional. What do you think of geript? After his early burst, totally useless. Phagga has been more tryhard which could be jester acting as scum or scum trying to act town. | ||
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Oh no way im voting for phagga right now. | ||
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Ok look at hapa's posting. Is it intentional or not? | ||
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Is he town?? :/ | ||
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On August 09 2013 17:32 phagga wrote: Oats, there is no way that Hapa is town the way he is playing. so why dont you think he is scum? | ||
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On August 09 2013 17:36 phagga wrote: I can't imagine scum being so inactive. Wouldn't he try to at least get some control of the game? After all, he wants to steer it to a misslynch some way. well he just wants to make sure he doesnt lynch the jester. but we need to lynch the scum. So he can lynch 3/4 people. We can only lynch 1/4 people. So yeah. As jester, he also would want to get lynched right? So that means playing the game. | ||
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Ok so both you and hapa think that Mocsta is scum, and geript and mocsta think you are scum. Therefore I am the deciding vote. Man this shit is hard. Hapa can you help out? | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:00 geript wrote: @Oats... don't you remember calling hapa out? He called me town, he called you town, he called phagga town. Hapa isn't this stupid as town. At least I don't think he can be. Basic math. So it's a matter of who you think is town. I know I'm town. I think Moc is town; I just need to completely throw out old meta on him b/c he's a completely different player. ah yeah that too. The thing for me, is hapa jester or scum. | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:02 geript wrote: Ok, so who do you think is non-town between Moc, phagga and me? phagga or mocsta. | ||
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HAPA! mocsta. BELIEVE ME. | ||
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we all know from the rule clarification that jester and Mafia can share a victory. henceforth a jester hapa would have stopped pushing for my lynch if he truly thought I was Mafia... actually what is this bullshit? So hapa isnt jester right? THEN HE IS SCUM MOCSTA? | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:13 Mocsta wrote: ...can u explain me why phagga is jester? what? you just said hapa isnt jester. | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:14 geript wrote: @oats... why do you think phagga is the jester? I can definitely see it. he has been like contradicting himself, didnt follow geript's plan for no reason. and attacking Mocsta, active dude who has been shoving stuff down his throat. I think as scum he wouldve pushed Hapa. | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:37 Mocsta wrote: maybe I'm tired., I thought I was writing clear? in essence I agree with geript. anti town hapa can't push who he thinks is the remaining anti town... well he can but that's really poor play, and I respect hapa enough to erase that thought whether hapa or phagga is anti town, I will reevaluate tomorrow. I'm surprised u consider me a possibility with phagga though. anything u want to run by me while I'm here? yeah so, if one of phagga and hapa is town, THEN WHO IS THE OTHER ONE? | ||
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in essence I agree with geript. anti town hapa can't push who he thinks is the remaining anti town... well he can but that's really poor play, and I respect hapa enough to erase that thought So now you dont agree with this? | ||
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So why did you say that in the first place? | ||
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Hapa doesnt feel that way, phagga somewhat does. | ||
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On August 09 2013 20:21 Mocsta wrote: but isn't that too obvious? Well phagga seems to be trying his best not to get lynched. So its not that obvious. :O | ||
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On August 09 2013 20:39 Mocsta wrote: i meant. ur gameplan if u were jester. start off advocating lynch on like geript or phagga, make cases. Push. argue with dudes, get angry. hopefully get lynched. | ||
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On August 09 2013 21:31 Mocsta wrote: so if hapa is Mafia, how does he fit that mold? He doesnt. | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:00 Mocsta wrote: OK. so are u still arguing hapa instead of phagga? yes. | ||
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But wifom! ![]() | ||
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Of course if he thinks Phagga is town, then yeah lynch town is not as bad as lynching scum for the jester. | ||
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So everyone thinks Hapa is the jester? | ||
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On August 11 2013 00:06 geript wrote: No Oats, I've just been busy between work and coaching. whut. | ||
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Gut ftw. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On August 08 2013 05:51 geript wrote: For Mocsta, his automatic initial read of phagga on Jester feels wrong to me. I think he's right that phagga is the jester, but I think he's got there too quick and too obviously. This post feels wrong to me too. All the pms were strict role, nothing else. It doesn't feel Mocsta-ish to claim horny and green (greenhorn aka vt) instead of just giving his role. He's also a smart cat. I don't get why he doesn't see the automatic logic behind claiming. His plan that both town and scum want to lynch the lynchproof is ridiculous to me. You can preclude the option of lynching the lynchproof if you only get 1 lynchproof claim. If you get 2 it gets tricky, but there are options to figure out which to lynch and whether to avoid both and instead fire into the VTs. If you get 3 lynchproof claims, then you get to avoid the situation almost entirely. There's a distinct lack of Mocsta-logic so far as well. I can't put my figure on it, but he's prodding aiming to fire into Oats/Hapa/Me, but he's not getting to the point on anything. Everything he writes feels like he's trying to keep his options open on where to move/pressure instead of trying to actually pressure anyone or anything to divine their alignment. It's also very interesting to me that his focus seems fully on the jester and the right play around the jester. Sure that's a pivotal point to have town avoid the jester, but it's far more important for scum to avoid jester lynches than it is for town. Town just needs to hit scum. Scum needs to avoid Jester and find room to hide. | ||
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Geript feels less involved than phagga. Also, he's been trying to get the unlynchable townie to claim the whole game. | ||
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On August 11 2013 00:23 Mocsta wrote: Oats. Lets play fantasy. Geript is antitown and hapa/phagga is antitown What is Geript. And which of hapa/phagga is the other? geirpt isnt jester so hes scum. hapa is jester. | ||
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On August 11 2013 00:25 Mocsta wrote: Oats. Q How would u expect unlynchable to act? Vs vt? no different | ||
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On August 11 2013 00:30 Mocsta wrote: What I was responding to was your query that phagga is invested in the game.hence town I'm saying. Phagga didn't dial up the care factor until under fire.then he fully cranked up the omgus Why would scum Geript cafe about the game and then fade? Esp when we still not close to a conclusion?? Phagga could be town and under pressure. I think its town. Whats your second point? | ||
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Second point is.. why would scum go to the effort if getting town cred and then kiss that away.. especially when we not close to sealing a vote? What? So losing 'town cred' is intentional? Geript says hes been busy. Not alignment indicative. Explain the bad points and why they are bad and stop mentioning the planning day 2 shit. | ||
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On August 11 2013 00:43 Mocsta wrote: Learn to read.. I'm not the one saying Geript is scum.. u r Personally I think the day2 thing is huge. I'm surprised u can gloss over it with a cavalier attitude Night dude ???????????????????????????? The day 2 thing is not huge. | ||
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On August 11 2013 00:47 geript wrote: Oats... what's your beef exactly? That I've been less active? that you havent done shit, your read on mocsta disappeared and you have been trying to find lynchproof. | ||
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Show how his meta differs from the start of the game as opposed to now geript? | ||
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On August 11 2013 01:44 Mocsta wrote: Of course town can win day2... But it's natural to want to finish asap.. I.e day1 Maybe I have a bigger scum hunter ego.. but At least in my head that makes sense On that note. Im off for good. Ciao Ignore that bit, does anything about my arguments for geript sway you? | ||
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On August 11 2013 01:49 geript wrote: No, different meta from his previous games that I was exceptionally familiar with his games but I think he preferred play style has changed drastically. So meta is not applicable basically. Why/what made you decide that? Any specific posts? Seems like a really weird thing to happen. | ||
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Cause that whole paragraph above is way too confusing. | ||
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On August 11 2013 03:55 geript wrote: Oats, why in the fuck do you have to be so damn bad? I swear to god that I'm policy lynching you for being fucking awful at this game from now on. I am totally and utterly confused at the anger geript. You arent close to dying. No one currently is convinced. Everyone is wrong sometimes. Everyone thinks im town. So convince me you arent scum. But. Why arent you mentioning that we lose the game if we lynch you? | ||
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On August 08 2013 14:58 Mocsta wrote: I suspect scum asked this question as i can't imagine town thinking about this.. I know I certainly didnt Hmmm I imagine this changes the game somewhat as now scum have the option to bandy up day2 and are probably playing the lurking game.. Where are u phagga.... ok so this is the only post in page 1 that makes me think Mocsta is town. Real or Fake... | ||
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On August 11 2013 04:06 geript wrote: Because you're stupidity isn't going to get me lynched unless you also get Moc to vote for me. Your rampant stupidity is the problem. So why are you so angry? My stupidity makes you angry? You must be angry a lot then. Why do people always get angry when I want to lynch them. Its disturbing and not at all good for convincing people. | ||
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So hapa better show up, and mocsta and geript need to show me they are town before im voting for phagga. | ||
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On August 11 2013 04:14 geript wrote: Here's a hint, because you're rampantly obnoxious or stupid. I just got out of a game with you where you intentionally derped for what 3-4 days and got mad because people wanted to lynch you or vig you. And you can't understand this. I'm fucking obv town and you're too dumb to realize it. Why do you think I'm mad? So bluelightz? I dont recall being mad about that. Bringing past behavioral history into games to shout at people is NEVER going to end well geript. Each game is different. Dont do it. Also you want to win the game right? So swallow your ego or lose it cause you make me sad and I vote with phagga and hapa. | ||
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On August 11 2013 04:18 geript wrote: Look, you can choose to be bad and vote with at least one person who you are 100% sold is anti town, or you can vote phagga. your choice. I dunno about that 100% sold part anymore you know.. . Mocsta jester you scum? | ||
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On August 11 2013 04:25 geript wrote: So Mocsta is now trying to get lynched? yes in fact. Ok so for me, Hapa has good posts, Phagga has good posts, both of you DONT. | ||
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On August 11 2013 04:28 geript wrote: Hapa has good posts? Where? Now you're just being fucking retarded. good post On August 08 2013 06:01 Hapahauli wrote: The unlynchable townie should not claim... because he can't be lynched! The only way he can die is if he gets shot, and claiming puts a direct target on his back. You want him/her to claim to make things easier, but we would actually benefit more from having discussion and no-lynching the player rather than having him/her claim and getting insta-shot Night 1. Nothing about either of these posts strike me as off or even "jester like." Him disagreeing with your plan is completely reasonable (since I can't even think of a good reason for it), and him not pursuing you or oats within a couple of pages of the game. Anyway I think Mocsta is scum. All his posts are completely contentless so far. For example, take this post: He calls Oats "dumb" (which is both unnecessarily inflammatory AND trusting - why is Oat's "dumb" instead of "scum"). And he seems to be calling phagga simultaneously the jester and a scum-suspect without really making it clear why he thinks either. Phagga's reaction to Mocsta calling him Jester seems absurdly irrelevant, especially when Mocsta doesn't clarify anything about it. | ||
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On August 11 2013 04:28 geript wrote: Hapa has good posts? Where? Now you're just being fucking retarded. /dunked | ||
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On August 11 2013 11:48 geript wrote: Oats... so you think Hapa is town. He hasn't posted anything in at least what... 29 hours now... Just vote for Phagga already. And if you are wrong? | ||
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On August 12 2013 16:58 Blazinghand wrote: lynch proof is meaningless on day two confirmed town yo. | ||
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On August 12 2013 17:56 Mocsta wrote: U were lynchable oats based on uconstant backflipping Can be sold as scum not wanting to hammer If u didn't turn on the full regard switch. Then yes. U were literally unlynchable. And not just by role no way geript or phagga wouldve voted for me anyway. | ||
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