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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 04:45 GMT
#5
/in
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 05:38 GMT
#14
On August 07 2013 14:37 Mocsta wrote:
Btw

wtf is a silent deadlineless night... Surely if silent, night can be capped to 24hrs......

Hmmm perhaps a opened mechanic will be revealed

probably a random amount between 6-12 hours after night actions submitted.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 07:03 GMT
#38
On August 07 2013 16:00 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 15:58 geript wrote:
VT

Time to insta claim folks


why do you want to insta claim?

kenpachi rule! BAM!
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 07:05 GMT
#40
On August 07 2013 16:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 07 2013 16:00 phagga wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:58 geript wrote:
VT

Time to insta claim folks


why do you want to insta claim?

kenpachi rule! BAM!

No. Play the game. There is no kenpachi rule other than if he and only he says starsenses.

Y U SO BAD OATS?

kenpachi rule is how I caught rayn in I swear 2. dont shittalk it boy
im vt
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 07:08 GMT
#42
On August 07 2013 16:07 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:02 geript wrote:
On August 07 2013 16:00 phagga wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:58 geript wrote:
VT

Time to insta claim folks


why do you want to insta claim?

Why don't you want to insta claim?

Why do you answer my question with a question?

Seriously though, I don't see a reason to instaclaim until you have a decent plan that hinges on claiming. So far I'm not seeing how we benefit of giving out this information.

Keep town on a need to know basis.

you lynchproof?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 07:08 GMT
#43
no wait you know what.
Phagga is either jester or scum playing as jester.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 07:10 GMT
#45
BAM BABY.
YOU CAUGHT BRO
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 07:14 GMT
#49
On August 07 2013 16:12 geript wrote:
Oats... your role before I shoot you.

with your imaginary gun?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 07:25 GMT
#54
On August 07 2013 16:15 geript wrote:
I'll draw a pretty picture of you later k dear.

qtpie
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 07:32 GMT
#56
On August 07 2013 16:31 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:12 geript wrote:
Here let me spell it out for you because apparently you missed the obvious logic of it:

We get 3 unlynchable claims = no worse than 33% win chance
We get 1 unlynchabl claim = no worse than 25% win chance, but really since every VT will be able to recognize that only 1 unlynchable claim and therefore limit his scum hunting to 1 of 3 people which gives us good odds to find scum instead of jester
We get 2 unlynchable claims = it gets tricky I have a plan for this specifically but it doesn't work if I explain it.

As you can see, every situation of claiming is pro town. Not one single bad option.


Ok, I have my own thoughts on this for later, but I guess it's worth a try.

I'm VT.

Which obviously means that at least one of you two is lying.

or you could be lying.

Explain bad things about claiming NOW.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 07:49 GMT
#58
On August 07 2013 16:38 phagga wrote:
I don't want to explain it because it might influence the claims. So I'd like to wait until these are over.

??????????????????????????????
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 10:45 GMT
#76
who the fuck claims jester?????????????
seriously guys...
Phagga is probably jester.
Mocsta/Hapa might be scum, hapa posted 1 no content post.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 11:23 GMT
#79
On August 07 2013 20:04 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 19:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
who the fuck claims jester?????????????
seriously guys...
Phagga is probably jester.
Mocsta/Hapa might be scum, hapa posted 1 no content post.

Thnx for the lolz

no1 claimed jester
Read before you Post ffs

(1) Why is Geript off ya list?
(2) Why is hapa scum when hes in a valid timezone for sleeping...?

1) geript started it with a plan. within like 5 minutes of the game starting. I dunno, but I feel that its unlikely for scum to do that.
2) He had enough time to post 1 post. Its absolutely useless.

I know no one claimed jester, I have no idea what phagga is saying about jester claiming jester or scum claiming jester. NO ONE WOULD DO THAT. Why? Because if you have 2 jesterclaims, you have to look scummier than the real jester. A bit difficult. And the jester will claim if scum claims jester I feel.
So no one claims jester.


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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 11:25 GMT
#80
Why were you adverse to claiming at the start phagga?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 11:32 GMT
#83
On August 07 2013 20:28 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 20:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why were you adverse to claiming at the start phagga?

Because I did not see any good reason in doing so. Why give out information if it doesn't benefit town? That's why I asked what geript had in mind.

what information? That you are a vt? How does that benefit scum?
Im currently thinking you were stalling for time to see what other people do phagga. Which means you arent town.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 11:54 GMT
#86
On August 07 2013 20:51 phagga wrote:
- I wanted to know what geripts plan was. No matter what role I have, I wanted that information first. Part of this is that he is more likely to give me information if I withhold the information he wants from me.
- Only you and geript had claimed at that point. If I would think that geripts plan was harmful, I would still have had a chance to stop the other two from claiming. But it looks kinda stupid if I just claim VT and then tell the others they should not claim for whatever reason.

What? So you dont actually have a reason for not claiming. Huh.
Why wont geript as town tell you the plan? Like I dont see why your actions would affect when he tells us the plan. Ego a bit large?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 12:14 GMT
#88
On August 07 2013 21:01 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 20:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 07 2013 20:51 phagga wrote:
- I wanted to know what geripts plan was. No matter what role I have, I wanted that information first. Part of this is that he is more likely to give me information if I withhold the information he wants from me.
- Only you and geript had claimed at that point. If I would think that geripts plan was harmful, I would still have had a chance to stop the other two from claiming. But it looks kinda stupid if I just claim VT and then tell the others they should not claim for whatever reason.

What? So you dont actually have a reason for not claiming. Huh.
Why wont geript as town tell you the plan? Like I dont see why your actions would affect when he tells us the plan. Ego a bit large?

I wrote my reasons for withholding the information, you just seem unable to understand them.

Why do you know that geript is town? And again, why put out information about our roles into the thread if there is no benefit for town? That's why I first wanted to know what his plan is.

I think geript is town. You do too if you are town.

Stop saying 'information'. Its not like scum doesnt know it already. Therefore you would only be telling town. And thats a good thing.

Your reasons for withholding your role name, vt, dont make any sense.
You wanted to make geript say something? is that right?.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 12:20 GMT
#90
And you think thats a good reason?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 12:34 GMT
#92
On August 07 2013 21:26 phagga wrote:
Yes, I do.

When geript asked everyone to claim, my reaction was not "oh well, claiming VT is useless information, I might as well claim". I thought "Why does he want everyone to claim? What's the ieea behind it?". And for that thought my own role was absolutely irrelevant. All I wanted is to know why he thinks it's a good idea to claim.

Oats, what do you think of Mocsta so far?

I'm at work and have a meeting in 30 minutes, need to prepare. Will be offline for a few hours.

I dunno about Mocsta. firmly null.

Why do you think he wanted everyone to claim? What benefit does mass claiming have for scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 14:03 GMT
#94
There is no plan that works with mass claiming Mocsta. Otherwise, his posts are really natural.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 17:37 GMT
#97
Come on Hapa, show up man.


Wait so you objected to Geript's plan WITHOUT THINKING OF A DOWNSIDE TO IT????? WHAT>>> ?? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 18:01 GMT
#99
On August 08 2013 02:55 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Come on Hapa, show up man.


Wait so you objected to Geript's plan WITHOUT THINKING OF A DOWNSIDE TO IT????? WHAT>>> ?? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

The reason I objected had to do with the fact hat I tried to figure out geripts intentions and that I think town should be kept on a need to know basis.

need to know? Like need to know you are a VT? We really need to know that.
You definetely arent town. Scum or Jester.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 07 2013 18:08 GMT
#101
On August 08 2013 03:06 phagga wrote:
Oats, learn to read.

fuck you.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 03:02 GMT
#131
On August 08 2013 06:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Obviously things early in the game won't be damning, but of all the players in the game that have posted so far, Mocsta looks by far the worst. Oats is being very confrontational/spazzy, which is pretty semblant of his townplay. Phagga sounds extremely paranoid (townie) in reaction to Mocsta's "jester" thing. You have your try-hard pants on.

This statment. Im town, phagga's town, geript's town.

Oh wait. Hapa cant be town then.
Yeah so phagga and hapa are the anti town factions. Which one is scum and which one is jester though.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 04:16 GMT
#139
wait so hapa, you would play jester as townie as possible?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 07:01 GMT
#146
On August 08 2013 16:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 13:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
wait so hapa, you would play jester as townie as possible?


No, but a Jester won't necessarily reveal his/her hand this soon. You have to balance being scummy with being laughably obvious.

Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 13:11 geript wrote:
On August 08 2013 12:59 Hapahauli wrote:
That's a huge misrepresentation of what I've been posting considering your "plan."

Like I said, every single role wants to claim VT. You seem to think that we should have the unlynchable claim, but that just makes them a target on N1. They can always claim if they're about to get lynched.

I don't see the difference. If you dismiss the plan without explaining why you think it's bad then that's the same to me.


Just because you don't understand my explanation doesn't mean I didn't explain it. As said twice before, there's simply no merit in having the unlynchable townie claim now. Why out a blue when we don't need to? He can claim at [i]any time. Best case scenario for town is to have him live to tomorrow and THEN claim.
[/b]
So we have determined that Jester wont play like town.
Who are you possible jesters Hapa?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 07:04 GMT
#148
phagga, hapa more likely jester or scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 07:30 GMT
#154
On August 08 2013 16:25 phagga wrote:
Hapa: What do you think of Mocsta? What do you make of his reaction to my accusation?

Oats: you said earlier that Hapa and me are the anti-town forces. Why do you think Mocsta is town?

cause mocsta feels like town.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 14:28 GMT
#170
come on geript.

Ok hapa is scum. I BELIEVE.
##vote Hapa
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 14:41 GMT
#172
On August 08 2013 17:13 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 16:25 phagga wrote:
Hapa: What do you think of Mocsta? What do you make of his reaction to my accusation?

Oats: you said earlier that Hapa and me are the anti-town forces. Why do you think Mocsta is town?

cause mocsta feels like town.


Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 16:25 phagga wrote:
Hapa: What do you think of Mocsta? What do you make of his reaction to my accusation?

Oats: you said earlier that Hapa and me are the anti-town forces. Why do you think Mocsta is town?

cause mocsta feels like town.


What makes you feel his town? Can you elaborate a bit? Can you point to something?

I wrote some posts up why I think Mocsta is not town because he's not trying to figure things out, what do you say about that?

oh what.
Cause mocsta playing the game man, longest filter I think, trying to find out shit. I disagree with you on that point btw.
I dont think you gave a good reason for not claiming. And you keep repeating the same bad reason. No wonder Mocsta aint happy.

Reasons for Hapa after Geript gives reasons for me.
Although,
Hapa not invested in this game at all, and I dont think he is jester.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 15:14 GMT
#176
On August 09 2013 00:01 geript wrote:
Oats totes scum that's y I vote oats

thats my line.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 15:20 GMT
#177
well hapa was talking about the optimal behavior of a jester and it doesnt feel like he is talking about his own role.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 17:06 GMT
#182
So why is phagga no jester?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 17:51 GMT
#184
I dunno man.

I think he was too obvious at the start too be scum.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 17:57 GMT
#185
I gotta sleep.
Mocsta you didnt convince me

HAPA!!
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 06:42 GMT
#194
On August 09 2013 14:11 phagga wrote:
Oats, I would like to hear your thoughts on the situation.

Hapa, you seem to have zero interest in playing the game, what's going on? What's your stance on Mocsta now? What do you think of geripts behaviour?

5 new posts in 7 hours? This is most dissappointing.

yeah I wanna kill hapa cause I think hes scum and I think you are jester.

I dunno though, hapa isnt even trying. He might be the jester.
Or geript looked too townie and is the jester trying to do stupid shit. I DUNNO. SO HARD>
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 06:42 GMT
#195
On August 09 2013 10:35 Mocsta wrote:
Oats. Lets make this majority happen

no im not gonna lose cause you want to kill the possible jester.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 06:58 GMT
#197
On August 09 2013 15:51 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 15:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:35 Mocsta wrote:
Oats. Lets make this majority happen

no im not gonna lose cause you want to kill the possible jester.

I get the concern , however I still think hapa has displayed a lack of motivation in posts I would have associated with being jester.

One of hapa only passionate posts was where we went through phsgga filter to explain why he wasn't jester...perhaps this was easy to do merely because hapa IS the jester.

Oats. My position is clear and the power of day1 still lies with u.

it likes with you too.
You could vote for hapa.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 07:14 GMT
#199
On August 09 2013 16:05 Mocsta wrote:
Well I prefer hapa as jester so don't feel safe with my vote there currently.

So Talk to me.
We clearly feel hapa IS anti town. However why mafia vs jester?

Lol.
I feel that hapa as jester will play not so scumlike. This feels a ton like Hapa's scum play which could be intentional.

What do you think of geript? After his early burst, totally useless.
Phagga has been more tryhard which could be jester acting as scum or scum trying to act town.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 07:38 GMT
#201
oh shit instant majority.
Oh no way im voting for phagga right now.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 07:44 GMT
#203
Well, phagga could also be jester and tryharding it up because it makes him look like scum as opposed to hapa.

Ok look at hapa's posting. Is it intentional or not?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 08:30 GMT
#214
k so hapa isnt posting intentionally bad.
Is he town?? :/
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 08:33 GMT
#217
On August 09 2013 17:32 phagga wrote:
Oats, there is no way that Hapa is town the way he is playing.

so why dont you think he is scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 08:38 GMT
#219
On August 09 2013 17:36 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 17:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 09 2013 17:32 phagga wrote:
Oats, there is no way that Hapa is town the way he is playing.

so why dont you think he is scum?

I can't imagine scum being so inactive. Wouldn't he try to at least get some control of the game? After all, he wants to steer it to a misslynch some way.

well he just wants to make sure he doesnt lynch the jester. but we need to lynch the scum.
So he can lynch 3/4 people. We can only lynch 1/4 people.

So yeah. As jester, he also would want to get lynched right? So that means playing the game.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 08:46 GMT
#222
well hapa is an experienced player right, so he knows how townies think in general. So he plays like lurky dude as jester? When he should cause trouble and shit right? He's not.

Ok so both you and hapa think that Mocsta is scum, and geript and mocsta think you are scum. Therefore I am the deciding vote. Man this shit is hard. Hapa can you help out?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 08:51 GMT
#224
So we can see if hapa is scum if he votes!
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 09:02 GMT
#227
On August 09 2013 18:00 geript wrote:
@Oats... don't you remember calling hapa out? He called me town, he called you town, he called phagga town. Hapa isn't this stupid as town. At least I don't think he can be. Basic math. So it's a matter of who you think is town. I know I'm town. I think Moc is town; I just need to completely throw out old meta on him b/c he's a completely different player.

ah yeah that too.
The thing for me, is hapa jester or scum.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 09:05 GMT
#229
On August 09 2013 18:02 geript wrote:
Ok, so who do you think is non-town between Moc, phagga and me?

phagga or mocsta.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 09:12 GMT
#232
fuck it, phagga is jester.

HAPA!
mocsta. BELIEVE ME.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 09:13 GMT
#233
we all know from the rule clarification that jester and Mafia can share a victory. henceforth a jester hapa would have stopped pushing for my lynch if he truly thought I was Mafia...

actually what is this bullshit? So hapa isnt jester right? THEN HE IS SCUM MOCSTA?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 09:14 GMT
#237
On August 09 2013 18:13 Mocsta wrote:
...can u explain me why phagga is jester?

what? you just said hapa isnt jester.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 09:16 GMT
#238
On August 09 2013 18:14 geript wrote:
@oats... why do you think phagga is the jester? I can definitely see it.

he has been like contradicting himself, didnt follow geript's plan for no reason. and attacking Mocsta, active dude who has been shoving stuff down his throat. I think as scum he wouldve pushed Hapa.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 09:28 GMT
#244
So what you are saying mocsta, is that one of phagga or hapa is town right?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 09 2013 10:01 GMT
#246
On August 09 2013 18:37 Mocsta wrote:
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On August 09 2013 18:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what you are saying mocsta, is that one of phagga or hapa is town right?

maybe I'm tired., I thought I was writing clear?

in essence I agree with geript. anti town hapa can't push who he thinks is the remaining anti town... well he can but that's really poor play, and I respect hapa enough to erase that thought


whether hapa or phagga is anti town, I will reevaluate tomorrow.


I'm surprised u consider me a possibility with phagga though. anything u want to run by me while I'm here?

yeah so, if one of phagga and hapa is town, THEN WHO IS THE OTHER ONE?
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August 09 2013 10:20 GMT
#248
in essence I agree with geript. anti town hapa can't push who he thinks is the remaining anti town... well he can but that's really poor play, and I respect hapa enough to erase that thought

So now you dont agree with this?
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August 09 2013 10:47 GMT
#250
ah ok.
So why did you say that in the first place?
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#252
If i got jester this game, I would be fucking pumped man, ready to try and get mislynched.
Hapa doesnt feel that way, phagga somewhat does.
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#254
On August 09 2013 20:21 Mocsta wrote:
but isn't that too obvious?

Well phagga seems to be trying his best not to get lynched. So its not that obvious. :O
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#256
On August 09 2013 20:39 Mocsta wrote:
i meant. ur gameplan if u were jester.

start off advocating lynch on like geript or phagga, make cases. Push. argue with dudes, get angry. hopefully get lynched.
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August 09 2013 12:07 GMT
#258
I would probably do something like advocate or disagree with plans, like setup speculation and be open to lynching more than 1 dude. Ill wont push the guy i think is jester, maybe defend a bit.
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August 09 2013 12:33 GMT
#260
On August 09 2013 21:31 Mocsta wrote:
so if hapa is Mafia, how does he fit that mold?

He doesnt.
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August 09 2013 13:06 GMT
#262
On August 09 2013 22:00 Mocsta wrote:
OK. so are u still arguing hapa instead of phagga?

yes.
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August 10 2013 04:04 GMT
#270
hapa why arent you playing?
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#272
yeah im slowly going that way man.
But wifom!
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#274
What do you mean by 'lacks the conviction'?

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#281
i wanna kill him tbh.
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#282
Ok so the thing thats holding me back from voting for phagga is that if Hapa is the jester and phagga is scum, he is seeing his chances of winning slip away, and he hasnt done anything about it.

Of course if he thinks Phagga is town, then yeah lynch town is not as bad as lynching scum for the jester.
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August 10 2013 14:55 GMT
#285
I dunno, so hard man.

So everyone thinks Hapa is the jester?
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#288
IS GERIPT PLAYING US? IS HE THE SCUM???
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#290
On August 11 2013 00:06 geript wrote:
No Oats, I've just been busy between work and coaching.

whut.
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August 10 2013 15:17 GMT
#293
Ok phagga is more town than geript.

Gut ftw.

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#294
Ok so geript, explain why you dropped your scum read on mocsta as of
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 08 2013 05:51 geript wrote:
For Mocsta, his automatic initial read of phagga on Jester feels wrong to me. I think he's right that phagga is the jester, but I think he's got there too quick and too obviously.

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 18:24 Mocsta wrote:
so I was actually calling u jester lol....
ima horny and green


so... everyone has claimed, pls post ya logic

This post feels wrong to me too. All the pms were strict role, nothing else. It doesn't feel Mocsta-ish to claim horny and green (greenhorn aka vt) instead of just giving his role. He's also a smart cat. I don't get why he doesn't see the automatic logic behind claiming. His plan that both town and scum want to lynch the lynchproof is ridiculous to me. You can preclude the option of lynching the lynchproof if you only get 1 lynchproof claim. If you get 2 it gets tricky, but there are options to figure out which to lynch and whether to avoid both and instead fire into the VTs. If you get 3 lynchproof claims, then you get to avoid the situation almost entirely.

There's a distinct lack of Mocsta-logic so far as well. I can't put my figure on it, but he's prodding aiming to fire into Oats/Hapa/Me, but he's not getting to the point on anything. Everything he writes feels like he's trying to keep his options open on where to move/pressure instead of trying to actually pressure anyone or anything to divine their alignment.

It's also very interesting to me that his focus seems fully on the jester and the right play around the jester. Sure that's a pivotal point to have town avoid the jester, but it's far more important for scum to avoid jester lynches than it is for town. Town just needs to hit scum. Scum needs to avoid Jester and find room to hide.


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#296
Post below that.

Geript feels less involved than phagga.
Also, he's been trying to get the unlynchable townie to claim the whole game.
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#299
On August 11 2013 00:23 Mocsta wrote:
Oats. Lets play fantasy.

Geript is antitown and hapa/phagga is antitown
What is Geript.
And which of hapa/phagga is the other?

geirpt isnt jester so hes scum.
hapa is jester.
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August 10 2013 15:27 GMT
#301
On August 11 2013 00:25 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August3 00:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Post below that.

Geript feels less involved than phagga.
Also, he's been trying to get the unlynchable townie to claim the whole game.

Oats. Q
How would u expect unlynchable to act? Vs vt?

no different
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August 10 2013 15:28 GMT
#303
uh what? geript hasnt been under fire the whole game.
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#306
On August 11 2013 00:30 Mocsta wrote:
What I was responding to was your query that phagga is invested in the game.hence town
I'm saying. Phagga didn't dial up the care factor until under fire.then he fully cranked up the omgus

Why would scum Geript cafe about the game and then fade? Esp when we still not close to a conclusion??

Phagga could be town and under pressure. I think its town.

Whats your second point?
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August 10 2013 15:39 GMT
#308
What?
Second point is.. why would scum go to the effort if getting town cred and then kiss that away.. especially when we not close to sealing a vote?

What? So losing 'town cred' is intentional? Geript says hes been busy. Not alignment indicative.

Explain the bad points and why they are bad and stop mentioning the planning day 2 shit.
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August 10 2013 15:44 GMT
#310
On August 11 2013 00:43 Mocsta wrote:
Learn to read.. I'm not the one saying Geript is scum.. u r

Personally I think the day2 thing is huge. I'm surprised u can gloss over it with a cavalier attitude

Night dude

????????????????????????????
The day 2 thing is not huge.
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August 10 2013 15:48 GMT
#312
On August 11 2013 00:47 geript wrote:
Oats... what's your beef exactly? That I've been less active?

that you havent done shit, your read on mocsta disappeared and you have been trying to find lynchproof.
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August 10 2013 15:54 GMT
#314
I dunno mocsta, why would scum consider day 2 too? They cant lynch jester day 1 anyway.
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August 10 2013 16:35 GMT
#317
town can techinically win on day 2 too.

Show how his meta differs from the start of the game as opposed to now geript?
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August 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#319
On August 11 2013 01:44 Mocsta wrote:
Of course town can win day2... But it's natural to want to finish asap.. I.e day1
Maybe I have a bigger scum hunter ego.. but At least in my head that makes sense

On that note. Im off for good. Ciao

Ignore that bit, does anything about my arguments for geript sway you?
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August 10 2013 16:50 GMT
#321
On August 11 2013 01:49 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
town can techinically win on day 2 too.

Show how his meta differs from the start of the game as opposed to now geript?

No, different meta from his previous games that I was exceptionally familiar with his games but I think he preferred play style has changed drastically.

So meta is not applicable basically. Why/what made you decide that? Any specific posts? Seems like a really weird thing to happen.
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August 10 2013 17:23 GMT
#323
Ok so what makes mocsta town?
Cause that whole paragraph above is way too confusing.
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August 10 2013 18:53 GMT
#325
geript is scum
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#328
On August 11 2013 03:55 geript wrote:
Oats, why in the fuck do you have to be so damn bad? I swear to god that I'm policy lynching you for being fucking awful at this game from now on.

I am totally and utterly confused at the anger geript.
You arent close to dying. No one currently is convinced. Everyone is wrong sometimes. Everyone thinks im town.
So convince me you arent scum.



But. Why arent you mentioning that we lose the game if we lynch you?
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Oatsmaster
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August 10 2013 19:07 GMT
#330
On August 08 2013 14:58 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 14:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Rules clarification re: endgaming the jester

A jester endgamed by town loses.
A jester endgamed by scum gets a "partial victory"

I suspect scum asked this question as i can't imagine town thinking about this.. I know I certainly didnt

Hmmm I imagine this changes the game somewhat as now scum have the option to bandy up day2 and are probably playing the lurking game..

Where are u phagga....


ok so this is the only post in page 1 that makes me think Mocsta is town.
Real or Fake...
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Oatsmaster
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August 10 2013 19:09 GMT
#331
On August 11 2013 04:06 geript wrote:
Because you're stupidity isn't going to get me lynched unless you also get Moc to vote for me. Your rampant stupidity is the problem.

So why are you so angry? My stupidity makes you angry? You must be angry a lot then.
Why do people always get angry when I want to lynch them.

Its disturbing and not at all good for convincing people.
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Oatsmaster
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August 10 2013 19:13 GMT
#332
I gotta go to sleep.
So hapa better show up, and mocsta and geript need to show me they are town before im voting for phagga.
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Oatsmaster
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August 10 2013 19:16 GMT
#334
On August 11 2013 04:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 04:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 11 2013 04:06 geript wrote:
Because you're stupidity isn't going to get me lynched unless you also get Moc to vote for me. Your rampant stupidity is the problem.

So why are you so angry? My stupidity makes you angry? You must be angry a lot then.
Why do people always get angry when I want to lynch them.

Its disturbing and not at all good for convincing people.

Here's a hint, because you're rampantly obnoxious or stupid. I just got out of a game with you where you intentionally derped for what 3-4 days and got mad because people wanted to lynch you or vig you. And you can't understand this. I'm fucking obv town and you're too dumb to realize it. Why do you think I'm mad?

So bluelightz?
I dont recall being mad about that.

Bringing past behavioral history into games to shout at people is NEVER going to end well geript. Each game is different. Dont do it.
Also you want to win the game right? So swallow your ego or lose it cause you make me sad and I vote with phagga and hapa.
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Oatsmaster
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August 10 2013 19:20 GMT
#336
On August 11 2013 04:18 geript wrote:
Look, you can choose to be bad and vote with at least one person who you are 100% sold is anti town, or you can vote phagga. your choice.

I dunno about that 100% sold part anymore you know.. .

Mocsta jester you scum?

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August 10 2013 19:27 GMT
#338
On August 11 2013 04:25 geript wrote:
So Mocsta is now trying to get lynched?

yes in fact.
Ok so for me, Hapa has good posts, Phagga has good posts, both of you DONT.
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Oatsmaster
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August 10 2013 19:30 GMT
#340
On August 11 2013 04:28 geript wrote:
Hapa has good posts? Where? Now you're just being fucking retarded.

good post
On August 08 2013 06:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 05:34 geript wrote:
Here's the way I see it. The unlynchable claims and isn't counterclaimed that means that we're lynching in a pool of 4; it narrows the scope of who we need to look at. Assuming a townlynch D1 (scum/jester lynches are moot), if scum chooses to hit the unlynchable, then it's a 50/50 shot of winning for every team essentially.

If the unlynchable is counter claimed once, then things get dicey as it could be either scum or jester. I had a plan for this but it's moot now.

If the unlynchable was counterclaimed twice, then we have no worse than a 50/50 shot of winning.

So the plan on forcing the claim isn't worthless like Hapa said. It actually bothers me that he thought it was. I want him to respond on why he thinks the correct claim for every role would be VT regardless of their actual role.


The unlynchable townie should not claim... because he can't be lynched! The only way he can die is if he gets shot, and claiming puts a direct target on his back. You want him/her to claim to make things easier, but we would actually benefit more from having discussion and no-lynching the player rather than having him/her claim and getting insta-shot Night 1.

Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 05:41 geript wrote:
On phagga. He looks like he's absolutely trying to get lynched. He just keeps on making these obvious non-towny sentiments in the thread.
On August 08 2013 02:55 phagga wrote:
The reason I objected had to do with the fact hat I tried to figure out geripts intentions and that I think town should be kept on a need to know basis.


This is a really big key for me:
On August 07 2013 16:31 phagga wrote:
Ok, I have my own thoughts on this for later, but I guess it's worth a try.

I'm VT.

Which obviously means that at least one of you two is lying.

You notice that he has no interest in following through on this. He "knows" that one of Oats/me are liars. But his continuation isn't to try and pressure either Oats, myself or Hapa (when he claims). He wants to focus on talking about the plan.

Summary: It looks like he's trying to be lynched aka Jester. At worst, scum trying to be the jester.


Nothing about either of these posts strike me as off or even "jester like." Him disagreeing with your plan is completely reasonable (since I can't even think of a good reason for it), and him not pursuing you or oats within a couple of pages of the game.



Anyway I think Mocsta is scum. All his posts are completely contentless so far. For example, take this post:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 22:59 Mocsta wrote:
1. phagga is rubbing me the wrong way majorly. I dont like his response to me calling him a jester, and I don't like his reasonings for withholding "information" regarding claiming.

2. I think oats is dumb for giving geript so much credit for coming up with a plan.
a. he claimed vt instantly...which usually happens in any game
b. the plan was shite and to me still doesn't make sense even with phagga attempt to expand.
======
What do town want
1. Avoid lynching jester
2. Lynch scum, if too hard then lynch lynchproof

What do mafia want
1. Avoid lynching jester
2. Lynch lynchproof
3. Lynch townie

Why lynchproof first? Because it increases odds of non-jester lynch on day2.

What do jester want?
1. Ask phagga

I guess jester is like SK with balancing act. Want to keep low profile to avoid being shot, but still need to be scummy enough to be lynched. I wouldn't be surprised if jester claimed lynchproof on day2 as a last resort either.
====
The problem with the plan...
Whilst its obvious to anyone claiming vt is normal play.... geript thinks it is wise to devise a plan hinging upon identifying lynchproofs...hhmmmmmmmmmm. and who wants to hit the lynchproof on day1....
Mafia does.


He calls Oats "dumb" (which is both unnecessarily inflammatory AND trusting - why is Oat's "dumb" instead of "scum").

And he seems to be calling phagga simultaneously the jester and a scum-suspect without really making it clear why he thinks either. Phagga's reaction to Mocsta calling him Jester seems absurdly irrelevant, especially when Mocsta doesn't clarify anything about it.

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Oatsmaster
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United States16628 Posts
August 10 2013 19:30 GMT
#341
On August 11 2013 04:28 geript wrote:
Hapa has good posts? Where? Now you're just being fucking retarded.

/dunked
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Oatsmaster
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August 11 2013 04:39 GMT
#355
On August 11 2013 11:48 geript wrote:
Oats... so you think Hapa is town. He hasn't posted anything in at least what... 29 hours now... Just vote for Phagga already.

And if you are wrong?
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August 12 2013 07:14 GMT
#398
well fuck you too geript for being an asshole.
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August 12 2013 07:46 GMT
#400
The reason why I didnt claim unlynchable is because I was in no danger of being lynched and claiming unlynchable wouldve meant I was shot n1 definitely so there was really no point.
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August 12 2013 08:02 GMT
#402
On August 12 2013 16:58 Blazinghand wrote:
lynch proof is meaningless on day two

confirmed town yo.
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Oatsmaster
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August 12 2013 08:49 GMT
#404
and they would counterclaim the towniest townie day 2 for?
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August 12 2013 09:10 GMT
#408
On August 12 2013 17:56 Mocsta wrote:
U were lynchable oats based on uconstant backflipping
Can be sold as scum not wanting to hammer

If u didn't turn on the full regard switch. Then yes. U were literally unlynchable. And not just by role

no way geript or phagga wouldve voted for me anyway.

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Oatsmaster
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August 12 2013 10:31 GMT
#411
Yup yup, setup was pretty nice, maybe have either an unlynchable or a medic.
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