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On August 07 2013 20:23 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 20:04 Mocsta wrote:On August 07 2013 19:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
who the fuck claims jester?????????????
seriously guys...
Phagga is probably jester.
Mocsta/Hapa might be scum, hapa posted 1 no content post. Thnx for the lolz no1 claimed jester Read before you Post ffs (1) Why is Geript off ya list? (2) Why is hapa scum when hes in a valid timezone for sleeping...? 1) geript started it with a plan. within like 5 minutes of the game starting. I dunno, but I feel that its unlikely for scum to do that. 2) He had enough time to post 1 post. Its absolutely useless. I know no one claimed jester, I have no idea what phagga is saying about jester claiming jester or scum claiming jester. NO ONE WOULD DO THAT. Why? Because if you have 2 jesterclaims, you have to look scummier than the real jester. A bit difficult. And the jester will claim if scum claims jester I feel. So no one claims jester.
In my usual early game eagerness I missunderstand Mocstas post as a jester claim, which it wasn't. My brain started to WIFOM be stupid immediatly. I'm cool now. I had lunch, another coffee and am calmed down. let's just not speak about it anymore, because I feel a bit ashamed.
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On August 07 2013 20:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why were you adverse to claiming at the start phagga?
Because I did not see any good reason in doing so. Why give out information if it doesn't benefit town? That's why I asked what geript had in mind.
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On August 07 2013 20:28 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 20:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why were you adverse to claiming at the start phagga? Because I did not see any good reason in doing so. Why give out information if it doesn't benefit town? That's why I asked what geript had in mind.
what information? That you are a vt? How does that benefit scum?
Im currently thinking you were stalling for time to see what other people do phagga. Which means you arent town.
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- I wanted to know what geripts plan was. No matter what role I have, I wanted that information first. Part of this is that he is more likely to give me information if I withhold the information he wants from me.
- Only you and geript had claimed at that point. If I would think that geripts plan was harmful, I would still have had a chance to stop the other two from claiming. But it looks kinda stupid if I just claim VT and then tell the others they should not claim for whatever reason.
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Oats, what do you think of geripts plan? You were quite eager to claim VT right off the bat.
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On August 07 2013 20:51 phagga wrote:
- I wanted to know what geripts plan was. No matter what role I have, I wanted that information first. Part of this is that he is more likely to give me information if I withhold the information he wants from me.
- Only you and geript had claimed at that point. If I would think that geripts plan was harmful, I would still have had a chance to stop the other two from claiming. But it looks kinda stupid if I just claim VT and then tell the others they should not claim for whatever reason.
What? So you dont actually have a reason for not claiming. Huh.
Why wont geript as town tell you the plan? Like I dont see why your actions would affect when he tells us the plan. Ego a bit large?
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On August 07 2013 20:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 20:51 phagga wrote:
- I wanted to know what geripts plan was. No matter what role I have, I wanted that information first. Part of this is that he is more likely to give me information if I withhold the information he wants from me.
- Only you and geript had claimed at that point. If I would think that geripts plan was harmful, I would still have had a chance to stop the other two from claiming. But it looks kinda stupid if I just claim VT and then tell the others they should not claim for whatever reason. What? So you dont actually have a reason for not claiming. Huh. Why wont geript as town tell you the plan? Like I dont see why your actions would affect when he tells us the plan. Ego a bit large?
I wrote my reasons for withholding the information, you just seem unable to understand them.
Why do you know that geript is town? And again, why put out information about our roles into the thread if there is no benefit for town? That's why I first wanted to know what his plan is.
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On August 07 2013 21:01 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 20:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 07 2013 20:51 phagga wrote:
- I wanted to know what geripts plan was. No matter what role I have, I wanted that information first. Part of this is that he is more likely to give me information if I withhold the information he wants from me.
- Only you and geript had claimed at that point. If I would think that geripts plan was harmful, I would still have had a chance to stop the other two from claiming. But it looks kinda stupid if I just claim VT and then tell the others they should not claim for whatever reason. What? So you dont actually have a reason for not claiming. Huh. Why wont geript as town tell you the plan? Like I dont see why your actions would affect when he tells us the plan. Ego a bit large? I wrote my reasons for withholding the information, you just seem unable to understand them. Why do you know that geript is town? And again, why put out information about our roles into the thread if there is no benefit for town? That's why I first wanted to know what his plan is.
I think geript is town. You do too if you are town.
Stop saying 'information'. Its not like scum doesnt know it already. Therefore you would only be telling town. And thats a good thing.
Your reasons for withholding your role name, vt, dont make any sense.
You wanted to make geript say something? is that right?.
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On August 07 2013 21:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 21:01 phagga wrote:On August 07 2013 20:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 07 2013 20:51 phagga wrote:
- I wanted to know what geripts plan was. No matter what role I have, I wanted that information first. Part of this is that he is more likely to give me information if I withhold the information he wants from me.
- Only you and geript had claimed at that point. If I would think that geripts plan was harmful, I would still have had a chance to stop the other two from claiming. But it looks kinda stupid if I just claim VT and then tell the others they should not claim for whatever reason. What? So you dont actually have a reason for not claiming. Huh. Why wont geript as town tell you the plan? Like I dont see why your actions would affect when he tells us the plan. Ego a bit large? I wrote my reasons for withholding the information, you just seem unable to understand them. Why do you know that geript is town? And again, why put out information about our roles into the thread if there is no benefit for town? That's why I first wanted to know what his plan is. I think geript is town. You do too if you are town. Stop saying 'information'. Its not like scum doesnt know it already. Therefore you would only be telling town. And thats a good thing. Your reasons for withholding your role name, vt, dont make any sense. You wanted to make geript say something? is that right?.
In short, yes.
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And you think thats a good reason?
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Yes, I do.
When geript asked everyone to claim, my reaction was not "oh well, claiming VT is useless information, I might as well claim". I thought "Why does he want everyone to claim? What's the ieea behind it?". And for that thought my own role was absolutely irrelevant. All I wanted is to know why he thinks it's a good idea to claim.
Oats, what do you think of Mocsta so far?
I'm at work and have a meeting in 30 minutes, need to prepare. Will be offline for a few hours.
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On August 07 2013 21:26 phagga wrote:
Yes, I do.
When geript asked everyone to claim, my reaction was not "oh well, claiming VT is useless information, I might as well claim". I thought "Why does he want everyone to claim? What's the ieea behind it?". And for that thought my own role was absolutely irrelevant. All I wanted is to know why he thinks it's a good idea to claim.
Oats, what do you think of Mocsta so far?
I'm at work and have a meeting in 30 minutes, need to prepare. Will be offline for a few hours.
I dunno about Mocsta. firmly null.
Why do you think he wanted everyone to claim? What benefit does mass claiming have for scum?
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1. phagga is rubbing me the wrong way majorly. I dont like his response to me calling him a jester, and I don't like his reasonings for withholding "information" regarding claiming.
2. I think oats is dumb for giving geript so much credit for coming up with a plan.
a. he claimed vt instantly...which usually happens in any game
b. the plan was shite and to me still doesn't make sense even with phagga attempt to expand.
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What do town want
1. Avoid lynching jester
2. Lynch scum, if too hard then lynch lynchproof
What do mafia want
1. Avoid lynching jester
2. Lynch lynchproof
3. Lynch townie
Why lynchproof first? Because it increases odds of non-jester lynch on day2.
What do jester want?
1. Ask phagga
I guess jester is like SK with balancing act. Want to keep low profile to avoid being shot, but still need to be scummy enough to be lynched. I wouldn't be surprised if jester claimed lynchproof on day2 as a last resort either.
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The problem with the plan...
Whilst its obvious to anyone claiming vt is normal play.... geript thinks it is wise to devise a plan hinging upon identifying lynchproofs...hhmmmmmmmmmm. and who wants to hit the lynchproof on day1....
Mafia does.
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There is no plan that works with mass claiming Mocsta. Otherwise, his posts are really natural.
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On August 07 2013 22:59 Mocsta wrote:
1. phagga is rubbing me the wrong way majorly. I dont like his response to me calling him a jester, and I don't like his reasonings for withholding "information" regarding claiming.
- What do you not like about my reasoning? Please elaborate.
- I hope you realise that my reaction to you calling me jester was mainly a product of me misinterpreting your statement.
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On August 07 2013 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 21:26 phagga wrote:
Yes, I do.
When geript asked everyone to claim, my reaction was not "oh well, claiming VT is useless information, I might as well claim". I thought "Why does he want everyone to claim? What's the ieea behind it?". And for that thought my own role was absolutely irrelevant. All I wanted is to know why he thinks it's a good idea to claim.
Oats, what do you think of Mocsta so far?
I'm at work and have a meeting in 30 minutes, need to prepare. Will be offline for a few hours. I dunno about Mocsta. firmly null. Why do you think he wanted everyone to claim? What benefit does mass claiming have for scum?
Again, when I asked for his plan I did not think that far. I really just tried to figure out what he wants to achieve with massclaiming. I just did not like the thought of needlessly putting out information if it does not benefit town.
The benefits for scum? Mocsta mentioned it, there is the possibility that it makes it easier for them to pick a good NK. However, I did not think of that at the time. When I claimed, I could not think of a downside.
Going on the train. My work day did not work out as planned, there is a high probability that I will not be online for the next 12 hours.
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Come on Hapa, show up man.
Wait so you objected to Geript's plan WITHOUT THINKING OF A DOWNSIDE TO IT ????? WHAT>>> ?? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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On August 08 2013 02:37 Oatsmaster wrote:Come on Hapa, show up man. Wait so you objected to Geript's plan WITHOUT THINKING OF A DOWNSIDE TO IT ????? WHAT>>> ?? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
The reason I objected had to do with the fact hat I tried to figure out geripts intentions and that I think town should be kept on a need to know basis.
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On August 08 2013 02:55 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 02:37 Oatsmaster wrote:Come on Hapa, show up man. Wait so you objected to Geript's plan WITHOUT THINKING OF A DOWNSIDE TO IT ????? WHAT>>> ?? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The reason I objected had to do with the fact hat I tried to figure out geripts intentions and that I think town should be kept on a need to know basis.
need to know? Like need to know you are a VT? We really need to know that.
You definetely arent town. Scum or Jester.
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