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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 20 2013 17:49 GMT
#801
When did Lone vote iV?!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 17:49 GMT
#802
I swear. Seeing the vote count, and that nobody else listens to the bamcis, I do this. Only thin that makes sense for me, and not that it particularly does.

##Vote: LoneMeow
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
August 20 2013 17:49 GMT
#803
On August 21 2013 02:45 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:43 OmniEulogy wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:40 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:34 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:26 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Read Lones filter and still think most of his posts are pretty townie although he should contribute more. There is only one thing I don't really get.
On August 20 2013 06:35 LoneMeow wrote:
Deus' case on JAT is kind of OMGUS, but seems like a town reaction, if he was scum I'd expect him to push Alakaslam since he's obviously much more likely lynch than JAT.

Holyflare, your read on Deus?

iVLosK!, could you perhaps try to help us figure this game out and provide reads on Deus and Alakaslam?

On August 20 2013 23:31 LoneMeow wrote:
Also, right now I'm agreeing with lynching Deus.

##Vote: DeusXmachina

What happened between these posts, Lone?


My top scum read ended up being the only one who was resisting the lynch besides Deus himself, and Alakaslam started looking more town to me. Sadly Slam's latest uselessness made him look less town again so I feel this lynch is a bit unsafe, I'd far prefer lynching iVLosK! who still hasn't really contributed much to the scum hunt at all.

I see. Makes sense somehow. Could you make a case on iVLosk then?


I don't think I can do a full case in the time remaining before lynch, but mainly my points are his reluctance to hunt scum, the lack of reads (the only strong read he's given so far is his case against me, which is a very weak case in my eyes) and just generally being useless. Also avoiding taking a stance on the pressing issue of Slam vs Deus is incriminating.

You are right about his reserved play but if he is town then it is understandable if he thinks slam/deus are town don't you think?


That's not reserved play. That's I don't give a fuck play. You are reserved. You have done nothing major that sets you apart from other players.


wait what's the difference between JAT and LosK in the "I don't give a fuck" category?


iV draws attention to himself because of his bold "I don't care what you guys think", I am going to be a dick, You will get reads from me when I want to give you reads style. He sticks out like a sore thumb. JAT tries to make it look like he cares. He plays substantially more reserved, and under the radar. Everything he does could be interpreted at an attempt to blend in.


iVLosK!'s antagonistic style is not alignment indicative, he practically has to play that way as either alignment since he's shown he's like that as town, otherwise he'd just get instantly lynched.
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
August 20 2013 17:49 GMT
#804
On August 21 2013 02:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:43 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:38 DeusXmachina wrote:
Don't you care about your fellow townie everyone! The noose is to my neck and I am pleading!!! I am not scum. Please see that! Major cases against Omni/JAT generated so much discussion. My case against JAT is the truth!! He has done so much to blend in. He has done so much while not contributing!

You made no major case against Omni and you did not generate much discussion apart from the discussion about you concerning the lynch.


Stop trying to distract from the lynch. If you want so bad to discredit me then why the hell don't you just vote me! What you are doing is essentially the same thing. It hurts me either way.

You are hurting yourself. You are about to be lynched and instead of giving us reads about other players (saying I'm scum over and over does not contribute) or adding anything new you just try to get people off you by playing with their fear. You go down without giving town any information like a true scum martyr.


I don't have time for in-depth reads. I have already made clear who my reads are. That would be absolutely pointless discussion at this point.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 20 2013 17:49 GMT
#805
and I certainly have not been making terrible contributions, I've made cases on 2 of you so far of whom I thought were most suspicious, if anything you have tunneled JAT and have been more useless.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 20 2013 17:51 GMT
#806
On August 21 2013 02:49 justanothertownie wrote:
When did Lone vote iV?!

Sorry, misread.
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
August 20 2013 17:51 GMT
#807
On August 21 2013 02:49 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:45 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:43 OmniEulogy wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:40 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:34 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:26 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Read Lones filter and still think most of his posts are pretty townie although he should contribute more. There is only one thing I don't really get.
On August 20 2013 06:35 LoneMeow wrote:
Deus' case on JAT is kind of OMGUS, but seems like a town reaction, if he was scum I'd expect him to push Alakaslam since he's obviously much more likely lynch than JAT.

Holyflare, your read on Deus?

iVLosK!, could you perhaps try to help us figure this game out and provide reads on Deus and Alakaslam?

On August 20 2013 23:31 LoneMeow wrote:
Also, right now I'm agreeing with lynching Deus.

##Vote: DeusXmachina

What happened between these posts, Lone?


My top scum read ended up being the only one who was resisting the lynch besides Deus himself, and Alakaslam started looking more town to me. Sadly Slam's latest uselessness made him look less town again so I feel this lynch is a bit unsafe, I'd far prefer lynching iVLosK! who still hasn't really contributed much to the scum hunt at all.

I see. Makes sense somehow. Could you make a case on iVLosk then?


I don't think I can do a full case in the time remaining before lynch, but mainly my points are his reluctance to hunt scum, the lack of reads (the only strong read he's given so far is his case against me, which is a very weak case in my eyes) and just generally being useless. Also avoiding taking a stance on the pressing issue of Slam vs Deus is incriminating.

You are right about his reserved play but if he is town then it is understandable if he thinks slam/deus are town don't you think?


That's not reserved play. That's I don't give a fuck play. You are reserved. You have done nothing major that sets you apart from other players.


wait what's the difference between JAT and LosK in the "I don't give a fuck" category?


iV draws attention to himself because of his bold "I don't care what you guys think", I am going to be a dick, You will get reads from me when I want to give you reads style. He sticks out like a sore thumb. JAT tries to make it look like he cares. He plays substantially more reserved, and under the radar. Everything he does could be interpreted at an attempt to blend in.


iVLosK!'s antagonistic style is not alignment indicative, he practically has to play that way as either alignment since he's shown he's like that as town, otherwise he'd just get instantly lynched.


Like we talked about before meta is not a solid basis for analysis in newbie games. He doesn't have to play that way. Look at the consequences of his actions! Everyone is upset over the way he acts. He gets a lot of attention because of it. Scum wouldn't do that. They would draw attention to themselves in that way.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 20 2013 17:51 GMT
#808
Unvote
##Vote Alakaslam
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 17:51 GMT
#809
Btw don't need the e in voting Onegu :D

Sorry for grammar nawtsee
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
August 20 2013 17:52 GMT
#810
On August 21 2013 02:49 justanothertownie wrote:
When did Lone vote iV?!


I haven't and I probably won't, it's unsafe to start spreading town votes this close to lynch unless we have an agreed switch.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
August 20 2013 17:52 GMT
#811
Different types of inconsistencies Deus. I've been inconsistent with my reads on Holy but I explained myself. I still don't have a clue as to what half of your votes have changed for, and everything has been pointed out with almost no response to those questions. Instead you tried to deflect suspicion towards JAT, myself and Holy and try to claim JAT and I are the scum team with Holy and myself having connections as well as trying to WIFOM bomb town as I've said before.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 20 2013 17:52 GMT
#812
sorry

##Unvote
##Vote Alakaslam
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 20 2013 17:53 GMT
#813
On August 21 2013 02:51 Holyflare wrote:
Unvote
##Vote Alakaslam

Well hello there.

Actually I'm glad you are sticking to your guns.

I really could use some confirming of town folks.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
August 20 2013 17:53 GMT
#814
On August 21 2013 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
and I certainly have not been making terrible contributions, I've made cases on 2 of you so far of whom I thought were most suspicious, if anything you have tunneled JAT and have been more useless.


Your cases were terrible contributions. Your case on iV was based on stupid reasons. Your case on me basically repeated what others have said. Your case on slam was the best one.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 20 2013 17:53 GMT
#815
On August 21 2013 02:53 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
and I certainly have not been making terrible contributions, I've made cases on 2 of you so far of whom I thought were most suspicious, if anything you have tunneled JAT and have been more useless.


Your cases were terrible contributions. Your case on iV was based on stupid reasons. Your case on me basically repeated what others have said. Your case on slam was the best one.



so why aren't you voting slam?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
August 20 2013 17:53 GMT
#816
On August 21 2013 02:51 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:45 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:43 OmniEulogy wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:40 DeusXmachina wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:34 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:26 LoneMeow wrote:
On August 21 2013 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Read Lones filter and still think most of his posts are pretty townie although he should contribute more. There is only one thing I don't really get.
[quote]
[quote]
What happened between these posts, Lone?


My top scum read ended up being the only one who was resisting the lynch besides Deus himself, and Alakaslam started looking more town to me. Sadly Slam's latest uselessness made him look less town again so I feel this lynch is a bit unsafe, I'd far prefer lynching iVLosK! who still hasn't really contributed much to the scum hunt at all.

I see. Makes sense somehow. Could you make a case on iVLosk then?


I don't think I can do a full case in the time remaining before lynch, but mainly my points are his reluctance to hunt scum, the lack of reads (the only strong read he's given so far is his case against me, which is a very weak case in my eyes) and just generally being useless. Also avoiding taking a stance on the pressing issue of Slam vs Deus is incriminating.

You are right about his reserved play but if he is town then it is understandable if he thinks slam/deus are town don't you think?


That's not reserved play. That's I don't give a fuck play. You are reserved. You have done nothing major that sets you apart from other players.


wait what's the difference between JAT and LosK in the "I don't give a fuck" category?


iV draws attention to himself because of his bold "I don't care what you guys think", I am going to be a dick, You will get reads from me when I want to give you reads style. He sticks out like a sore thumb. JAT tries to make it look like he cares. He plays substantially more reserved, and under the radar. Everything he does could be interpreted at an attempt to blend in.


iVLosK!'s antagonistic style is not alignment indicative, he practically has to play that way as either alignment since he's shown he's like that as town, otherwise he'd just get instantly lynched.


Like we talked about before meta is not a solid basis for analysis in newbie games. He doesn't have to play that way. Look at the consequences of his actions! Everyone is upset over the way he acts. He gets a lot of attention because of it. Scum wouldn't do that. They would draw attention to themselves in that way.


How can you be so sure he's town? I could agree with "null" or "leaning town" based on that if you truly believe it but the way you defend him makes it look like you have a very strong town read on him, what's that based on?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 20 2013 17:54 GMT
#817
and you also followed the reasoning of my case? and being an antagonistic asshole is not a good way to play town or scum, he was going to get lynched and still has contributed almost nothing, his reads were useless...
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 17:56:09
August 20 2013 17:54 GMT
#818



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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
August 20 2013 17:54 GMT
#819
On August 21 2013 02:53 DeusXmachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
and I certainly have not been making terrible contributions, I've made cases on 2 of you so far of whom I thought were most suspicious, if anything you have tunneled JAT and have been more useless.


Your cases were terrible contributions. Your case on iV was based on stupid reasons. Your case on me basically repeated what others have said. Your case on slam was the best one.


According to you everything has been a terrible contribution.
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DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
August 20 2013 17:55 GMT
#820
On August 21 2013 02:52 OmniEulogy wrote:
Different types of inconsistencies Deus. I've been inconsistent with my reads on Holy but I explained myself. I still don't have a clue as to what half of your votes have changed for, and everything has been pointed out with almost no response to those questions. Instead you tried to deflect suspicion towards JAT, myself and Holy and try to claim JAT and I are the scum team with Holy and myself having connections as well as trying to WIFOM bomb town as I've said before.


I have said this twice before, literally twice. I was not analyzing connections as in they both could be scum. I said you were connected in the sense that you were fighting among each other and I felt like I could benefit from analyzing you guys together.
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