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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 09:58 GMT
#2015
Possibly? I was leaning mafia on him before and the lynch definitely doesn't make it less likely. Dunno if stuff like this is scum or just really irritating

On September 23 2013 14:49 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 14:48 Mocsta wrote:
Ft.

Have u read the whole game yet?

Not yet, I read slowly, forgive me. I am at page 50, though.


Still hasn't "caught up". ...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:02 GMT
#2017
Just... stop making doclists dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:06 GMT
#2019
I want to grill Stutters. I don't even know what about. His peace out last night was really horrible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:10 GMT
#2020
On September 23 2013 02:34 Stutters695 wrote:
Part 2: Chairman Meow

First, so it's absolutely clear Kush needs to die. He's my number one choice. But if you guys don't dig it today, these are my other choices:


LoneMeow: The Mocsta/Pandain post is bad. He never explains the Mocsta bit. Considering he later says he never t called Pandain scum, it's a little ridiculous to never follow up on it.

Additionally by not ever thinking that Pandain was scum he essentially has done no work except a "pressure"(in a very loose sense ) vote. Feels too safe and like he has no interest in the lynch, just appearing helpful enough for it not to be him.


I also think there is a good chance Chairman is scum, but I'm sick so I want to lay down. I'll type him up later.


He never even addresses the LoneMeow martyrying aspect, and yet has his vote on him at the end of the day? Makes a post at 07:42, a bunch of shit happens, then he makes his peace out post 3 hours later, neglecting to talk about anything in between, not talking about LoneMeow at all. Horrible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:14 GMT
#2022
Not very exciting ones. He's not on my shitlist atm anyway.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:19 GMT
#2025
Current shitlist is Firm/Pandain/Stutters/Risen/LM/(Vayne)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:20 GMT
#2026
Fingers crossed they're not all town that would be depressing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:23 GMT
#2029
On September 23 2013 19:22 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Current shitlist is Firm/Pandain/Stutters/Risen/LM/(Vayne)

Yeah, like thers suspect ppl in that list for sure.

BUT .. 5 to 6 ppl replaced in.. Are you suggesting it is likely they are all town?


no, no. But i have no way of telling so it's not really fair to put them on a shitlist is it?

Shitlist != whole mafia team
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:29 GMT
#2037
Firm, chat with me about a couple of mafiareads.

Ignore meanie-Moc.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:29 GMT
#2038
On September 23 2013 19:28 Koshi wrote:
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On September 23 2013 19:27 FirmTofu wrote:
I would actually place myself in the category right before that one, but I can see why you might think that.

The group that is most likely scum? wtf.


lol, this is kinda hilarious
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#2043
Thing is, Firm, Zaragon *could* be mafia (I don't have a strong townread on him or anything), but:

The parenthetical aside isn't something town would do. Town is more likely to believe their actions even to the point of fault. Only scum uses fallback options to justify their actions.

This is simply untrue. I do this kinda thing as town pretty regularly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:47 GMT
#2047
On September 23 2013 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't make connection cases pre-flip,


Come now rayn. Come now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:50 GMT
#2053
On September 23 2013 19:49 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
Thing is, Firm, Zaragon *could* be mafia (I don't have a strong townread on him or anything), but:

The parenthetical aside isn't something town would do. Town is more likely to believe their actions even to the point of fault. Only scum uses fallback options to justify their actions.

This is simply untrue. I do this kinda thing as town pretty regularly.

Of course he could be mafia. Anyone can be mafia. What I'm saying is that out of the 29 people still alive, he's the most likely to be mafia. If you have a disagreement with that statement, you can bring it up.

On that note, who is your strongest scumread right now, marv?


This is not the point I was making.

The point I was making is that your entire case is built on a premise that I think is basically false.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:51 GMT
#2055
On September 23 2013 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 19:47 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't make connection cases pre-flip,


Come now rayn. Come now.

You are talking about Desert i assume?
That was to convince the townto lynch you over a confirmed scum because you are far more valuable to the scumteam. I don't do it on D1, when there are no flips.


No, I'm talking about that game I was town and you tunnelled me relentlessly as part of a 3-man scumteam you'd made up before any of them had flipped. That game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:56 GMT
#2058
Er, Basterd. Only a few months ago.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#2061
I really cannot be bothered to comment on all the people who have claimed vigi and who are claiming to use their shot on x and y.

Pretty much what will be will be.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#2062
On September 23 2013 19:56 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 19:50 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 19:49 FirmTofu wrote:
On September 23 2013 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
Thing is, Firm, Zaragon *could* be mafia (I don't have a strong townread on him or anything), but:

The parenthetical aside isn't something town would do. Town is more likely to believe their actions even to the point of fault. Only scum uses fallback options to justify their actions.

This is simply untrue. I do this kinda thing as town pretty regularly.

Of course he could be mafia. Anyone can be mafia. What I'm saying is that out of the 29 people still alive, he's the most likely to be mafia. If you have a disagreement with that statement, you can bring it up.

On that note, who is your strongest scumread right now, marv?


This is not the point I was making.

The point I was making is that your entire case is built on a premise that I think is basically false.

I was definitely generalizing to what I believe to be proper townplay vs proper scumplay. As this is a game of probability, I'm working with probabilities.

"Town is more likely to believe their actions even to the point of fault."
"Only scum uses fallback options to justify their actions."

These are statements dependent on implied probabilities. Granted, I may not have used the best choice of words(see: Only), but I believe that both of these statements are true in the majority of cases. They may not be true for you, but that is not a damning argument in and of itself.

While you may not fit the mold, I believe most players do. You are only one statistic and cannot single-handedly refute my argument with only the evidence of your own play to back you up.


Yes, but you have no evidence to support your theory being true either.

Therefore "you cannot singlehandedly assert that your heuristic is correct with only the evidence of you saying so."

I'd rather say town, especially on day 1, are much more likely to think in either/or terms because it'll be the time townies are most unsure of their reads.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 11:05 GMT
#2069
On September 23 2013 20:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 19:56 marvellosity wrote:
Er, Basterd. Only a few months ago.

Marv, please. We talked about it after the game (or when i died). It was to get shot and to keep you alive as you were a more valuable asset in that game and certainly not a veteran. It's the exact same thing i did with iamp in Bluelightz game. Obviously didn't work because Vivax couldn't get out of tunneling you after that and since then i have stopped it (because it didn't work out in Bluelightz game aswell -- as iamp claimed mason). I also did the same thing in Ego, where i posted a huge (half incorrect) case on Palmar on last night because i wanted him alive on the last day as i was copping him.


Your memory is shit.

Go read the PMs if you want to know the truth.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 11:10 GMT
#2079
On September 23 2013 20:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
I really cannot be bothered to comment on all the people who have claimed vigi and who are claiming to use their shot on x and y.

Pretty much what will be will be.


Really? you are just going to sit back and let geript vig me? I would expect you to point out how dumb that would be. But you don't care?


Don't be so dull, DP. Christ.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 11:12 GMT
#2083
On September 23 2013 20:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay marv, you are right, that's not what i said. That's however what my thought process was. I guess i didn't write that because you were still in game and you are not supposed to know what dead players think (besides what's in thread). Also that was on N1, not D1.

Anyways, does that mean anything?


No, and we've spent like 20 posts talking about something irrelevant ^^ Your thought process, as per your PMs, was that you thought I was mafia.

I only pointed it out because I found it amusing because of that game, it wasn't meant to be anything more than a throwaway :p
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