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justanothertownie
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 23 2013 03:24 Umasi wrote: Well, let's work through this a bit I'm town, so when I read the thread and see someone who (according to mocsta (who I've kinda considered an influential townie)) occupies a similar position within the thread as me is immediately voting me for that reason, when he's done exactly the same thing? Why IS he voting me instead of someone else in the thread? Specifically, why did he choose me to vote gah I'm not phrasing this very well. basically why am I scummier to him than other people in the thread is my question. also, how is this similar to me unvoting lonemeow, that it's bad play or that it's scum? regardless, I don't think I twisted what he said, I tried to read into what he said. But that's not at all what you said in your last post... | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 23 2013 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so, you called me out for "defending VA and Coag". Marv did the exact same thing, at the exact same time. Why is he a townread for you and i am (am i?) a scumread for you? He's done more than defend people. He attacked people and give short, concise reasoning for doing so. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 22 2013 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Don't worry, you'll do it when you do it. Here's the thing. You and Koshi went back and forth. After that Koshi voted for you for (1) posting specially, for you (2) faking activity, and for you (3) thinking Kush is scum for caring about rules. Point (3) was proven wrong as your thingy went on. I did ask Koshi later on why he did vote for you. He only mentioned (1), and that is bullshit. He did not mention (2) at all, while that was the only point that actually could make you scum from the reasons he gave. In other words, his vote was totally crap. After that he swithed his vote to VA. Fair enough, he could do that as town, but he had other scumreads at that moment (WoS) and he never interacts with him at any point at the game. After his rant with you he only talks about VA (and he knows that's useless). TLDR; His votes end up on someone with either shitty reasons or they end up on someone easy to plant a vote on. Or both. That's not what Koshi does as town. Look at the last game where he flipped town. After Titanic Koshi has been the shiny beacon of towniness when he is town. Here he is discussing stupid stuff or discussing no stuff at all and voting for an easy target. I think that makes him scum. ##Vote: Koshi Now, Mocsta, when you are able to; I find it weird that you are saying "Koshi has discussed important matters" because that's horribly wrong. I agree with your vote on Sentinel and if he does not improve his posting / give thoughts on something that's easy to hide behind we lynch him. But Koshi looks worse. He's actively posting but not saying shit. (1) Mocsta was posting baby seals and was using colors and other shit. So why not vote for him? (2) with faking activity I was only referring to him and Kush having a conversation. Even though Mocsta is quite present this game. (3) It's incorrect. So yeah. I even told Mocsta it was incorrect. Kush also cared about the rules in Golden Sun. So I voted Mocsta. Totally understandable. _______ Voting VA was to smack him out of his RP. Would have worked if a couple people joined me. Don't know why you so mad about that. _______ I don't have time to be spammy. Between the spam I sometimes say good shit and that's how you get town reads on me rayn, now that I don't spam it seems like you can't read me. Bit sad. Or maybe it is because the good shit is lacking. Bad news: I will be gone for another 2 days Tuesday/Wednesday. yay! Now let's see if I can find a scummer. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 23 2013 03:31 Risen wrote: He's done more than defend people. He attacked people and give short, concise reasoning for doing so. Yeah but i did not defend anyone. I questioned votes, i never said VA/Coag is town. Is my play somehow scummier than marv's at this point? Why? Do you know how marv operates as scum compared to what he does as town? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 23 2013 03:36 Umasi wrote: if it was what I'd said in my last post, why would I bother saying it? I was expanding on it since you seemed to want expansion on the topic. Ehh.. I called out your reasoning for your vote. Instead of defending your reasoning for the vote you give new/different reasoning for it. Why did you not write that in the first place if that makes him scum? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 06 2013 05:53 LoneMeow wrote: As to my top lynch candidate right now, I think I'd want to go for Chairman Ray: His early posts are reasonable, but he seems to be carefully avoiding taking sides and never really calls anyone scum (besides a 0-poster...) before jumping on Lord Velocity for that ridiculous edit mishap. I can easily see scum motivation for wanting not to implicate anyone until an easy target shows up to jump on. I could also consider Infii, but his "big post" does bring up some decent points that would have to be considered. ##Vote: Chairman Ray On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote: Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing. Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious. I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does, ##Vote: Pandain Is this similar? First quote is from LoneMeow his previous scumgame. This is how he votes in his previous town game. On August 20 2013 23:31 LoneMeow wrote: Also, right now I'm agreeing with lynching Deus. ##Vote: DeusXmachina On August 17 2013 18:37 LoneMeow wrote: Ok, that's better. Careful with meta in newbie games though. Now, Squibbles needs to start posting. Or I'll have him hung. ##Vote: Squibbles Looks like scum LoneMeow needs more reasons to plant down a vote than a town LoneMeow who gives less fucks. Thee was one more vote he did in the James Bond scumgame but there he was bussing a mate, that was short and sweet as well. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
If I'm pretty clearly townie, and you think scum are trying to set up a VE lynch behind the scenes, then why aren't you voting for Yamato? | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
Is the reasoning flawed? (because I obviously don't think it is) | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Also do you still think VA is scum? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 23 2013 03:45 Umasi wrote: dunno, because I'm bad I guess. Is the reasoning flawed? (because I obviously don't think it is) Your first reasoning was, the latter is not. That's what bothers me in you. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
so do you think sentinel is town then? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 23 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi are you making a case or asking people "can i lynch this guy"? Also do you still think VA is scum? 1) I asked if it was similar. imo it is very similar. I will vote for the Stray Kitten, but I am looking into yamato atm. First opinion he is not scum. 2) I never thought VA is scum. You still don't get what I was trying to do? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 23 2013 03:47 Umasi wrote: okay. idk if I can help explain it more :| so do you think sentinel is town then? I do not have a town read on him. I think i have said it before. I dunno how he plays as town but if he continues posting as he has, and does not answer you he is a good lynch. Only thing that looks good to me on him was what he said about you regarding LoneMeow, because that was exactly what i thought when you unvoted him. Why did you unvote him btw? Why not continue pressure on him? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 23 2013 03:48 Koshi wrote: 1) I asked if it was similar. imo it is very similar. I will vote for the Stray Kitten, but I am looking into yamato atm. First opinion he is not scum. 2) I never thought VA is scum. You still don't get what I was trying to do? On (2), no, i do not get it. Explain it to me please. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 23 2013 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: On (2), no, i do not get it. Explain it to me please. VA is proud about 2 things. 1) he always plays a different style. 2) he doesn't get misslynched as town. Obviously he is doing 1) again, but by piling votes on him he is forced to give out stronger reads / break character to make sure 2) doesn't happen. If he would have continued doing nothing he was probably scum. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
I read his vote, went 'this is kinda scummy' then thought about why it was scummy. mocsta kinda grouped us together as non-contributing-flying-under-the-radar dudes iirc, so you suddenly voting me with THAT shit reasoning is why I'm voting you, because it feels you're like 'quick target the other dude who's in a similar position to me' I'm town, so when I read the thread and see someone who (according to mocsta (who I've kinda considered an influential townie)) occupies a similar position within the thread as me is immediately voting me for that reason, when he's done exactly the same thing? Why IS he voting me instead of someone else in the thread? I expanded on the first point in the second post, as much as to explain to you guys what it was scummy as well as to figure out myself if it actually was. *shrug* if this isn't enough of an explanation go talk to other people in the thread about it I guess | ||
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