TL Mafia LXII: TL Noir - Page 69

On September 23 2013 02:41 Pandain wrote:


That is too complex to answer lol, I can answer short questions now but don't want to become too involved in the thread right now.

On September 22 2013 22:20 yamato77 wrote:

Scum DP is actually more likely to only argue the entire game than town DP is. Honestly, DP refusing to do anything OMGUS people the whole game is not a point in his favor, it is a point against. You should know better, because in Persona, he was actually somewhat useful despite there being arguments in the game.

Unfortunately, if DP is mafia, you're probably just bad. This whole situation between you and DP is entirely too convoluted for two scum to have constructed. And yes, I am calling DP mafia, for the record. He can very well play this game properly and not like a butthurt noob.



Pro-tip: Don't listen to a player's opinion of their own meta. Or take "I do this as scum/town, too!" as a valid excuse for legitimately scummy play. Wave has picked up on the same thing that I've picked up on, and it makes me feel very good about this read. I rescind my early scum read on Wave.

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As in, he's actually posting? This line of questioning goes nowhere, because in recent memory, FT has simply not posted and been lynched for it. As town. Questioning the difference is completely pointless. Something is off with Rayn this game. His questions are generally stupid, but he's a special kind of useless so far and it's begun to seriously bother me.

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RE: VisceraEyes

Still pretty scummy and useless. Can be scummy and useless as town. Not necessarily a good lynch. His alignment will be clearer the longer the game goes on.

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RE: Mocsta

Has toned down his play to some extent but his early game still bothers me. His outright refusal to respond to me is ridiculous and a pathetic excuse to not face your accuser. I think he doesn't want to argue with me because he knows I can catch him. If Mocsta was town, I would have expected a far more vehement response to my accusations than "blahblah I didn't even read Yamato's posts except for the part where he called me mafia. Totes not true."

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This dude is now the best lynch in the game, for quite obvious reasons.

##Vote: Chairman Ray

On September 23 2013 02:45 DarthPunk wrote:

l I'm sleeping now so can you provide an answer for me in the next several hours?

Also tell me if shitting up the thread is a town tell, scum tell or a null tell.

On September 23 2013 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not lynch Koshi instead? Koshi has said absolutely nothing in this game besides having two scumreads for shitty reasons and he has retracted from both of them with no reasons..

On September 22 2013 17:19 Mocsta wrote:


OK. I dont follow the progression here.






Referring to post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=54#1073

Im more concerned about the first post. Why feel the need to give a free town read on someone that wasn't being discussed at the time.

On September 22 2013 23:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think despite Umasi's allegations to the contrary, he's been contributing nothing of value. After LoneMeow leaves he decides that since he can't get anymore fuel, he'll unvote. And then really all he talks about is people who aren't scummy looking.

I'm switching from Stutters to him because at least with Umasi, if he does end up flipping red then his filter becomes more useful than Stutters who just pushed kush all day. Since apparently pressuring him isn't working and he's lurking harder than ever. We could vig stutters though.

I don't like yamato's big post either. He calls DP mafia, rayn scummy, and then quotes Ray's fluffpost and says HE'S THE SCUM. And he's really got nothing else to show, especially afterwards he doesn't rationalize anything. I'm leaning red on him. Umasi seems more red to me but yamato has more to show for further analysis if he flips red.

But I'll keep my vote on Umasi for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: Umasi

Otherwise, out of the filter dives I want to say something about WoS but I can't quite put my finger on it. Perhaps I'll say something about him and also Koshi when I get back.

On September 23 2013 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote:

Well frankly because I can see a town Koshi doing that same thing. That's not alignment indicative to me. Yamato would/should be pushing for his strongest scum lynch right now and he's not and I do NOT expect a town yamato to do that same thing.

On September 22 2013 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Risen, could you answer me about what's your read on marv?

On September 23 2013 03:02 Umasi wrote:


Because I think he's town. Chairmans just pretty good lynchbait
he certainly was last game, and his play so far has evoked an identical feel.

on another note, find it annoying how you're like 'umasi hasn't talked enough about the important things in the thread' and then ask me about two one liners.
kinda wacky, but I have a town read on you.

idk about FT, slightly scummy for me, because of how contrived his pressure on DP felt for a silly reason

thank god your thoughts on me basically are 'if he's red, man we have some things to go on' and 'he hasn't talked about important things!'
Lynching for information is something I'm a firm disbeliever of, I think it's frequently a scum tool
fwiw, I told you guys I'd respond to questions you had for me (and the only one I've seen is mocsta's)
mocsta kinda grouped us together as non-contributing-flying-under-the-radar dudes iirc, so you suddenly voting me with THAT shit reasoning is why I'm voting you, because it feels you're like 'quick target the other dude who's in a similar position to me'


also there's a vote thread, use it

##vote sentinel

On September 23 2013 03:06 Risen wrote:


Didn't even see the question. Don't know, seems ok to me. He wasn't in my last game so he really only knows my play from a long time ago, I'm not holding his push on me against him.

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On September 23 2013 03:15 Coagulation wrote:
ok so apparently theres no dirt on ve and thats pretty good cause hes clearly town.

On September 23 2013 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

yamato threw some dirt on VE along with JAT. That's what i remember. What are you referring to?

On September 23 2013 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:

This vote is really bad. It's basically an OMGUS with completely twisting Sentinel's case around. That's exactly how i felt when you unvoted LoneMeow.

On September 22 2013 22:20 yamato77 wrote:


This dude is now the best lynch in the game, for quite obvious reasons.

##Vote: Chairman Ray