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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 29 2013 05:58 GMT
#4882
On September 29 2013 14:22 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 12:51 iamperfection wrote:
On September 29 2013 12:47 Umasi wrote:
On September 29 2013 12:28 Mocsta wrote:
On September 29 2013 12:08 Umasi wrote:
awesome, believe in marv and he shall deliver.
I think we should lynch mocsta tomorrow

what has marv got to do with lynching me? He was never pushing me as a primary lynch.

This is pretty fucking scummy to do.

Explain NAIO!

believe in marv and he shall deliver referring to cephiro.
lynch you 100% because of policy imo.
(policy referring to your retarded doctor fakeclaim)

why do you want a policy lynch when we need to reduce mafia kp


Because if mocsta is town, what he did is basically inexcusable, and needs to be punished.
If he's mafia, A: we caught mafia and B: the ridiculous behavior is punished.

my question for you, general masses, is IS THERE A COMPELLING REASON TO NOT VOTE FOR MOCSTA?

'there are some reasons he is townie, and he isn't 100% scum...' is an incorrect answer, btw.

wat

are one goal is to lynch scum not punish stupidity.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 29 2013 23:59 GMT
#4956
So regardless of what risen is geript is town i said it before the whole ninja voting and trolling dosn't make sense from a scum perspective as it would be a good way to eat a vig shot.

On top of that he has been overall very aggressive which typically is more likely to come from town.


Also this would be a clever post for a scum to make.
On September 29 2013 11:45 geript wrote:
So why are we playing? Nobody knows the deadline and nobody can keep a deadline.



JAT

is also just another townie misguided but townie none the less

On September 29 2013 12:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 12:15 iamperfection wrote:
alright coag is still confirmed. any dr's left on him dont wifom it make mafia shoot in active or waste kp with double stack

I don't like this post. No, not at all.


While he is wrong here as we just want to give the best chance for mafia to waste kp and since their are no super obvious glowing townies that are likely to be shot coag makes the most since for medic protection and is the only logical choice. His quick aggression against me is more likely to come from an over aggressive townie. Townies sometimes just act without a filter and this didnt look like a scum calculated aggression to me. It looked spontaneous and natural to me.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 30 2013 04:05 GMT
#5038
Jesus Christ
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 30 2013 04:19 GMT
#5044
risen can you please be town because this becomes hilarious if your are.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 30 2013 04:32 GMT
#5052
Hey risen do you read like any of my posts?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 30 2013 04:38 GMT
#5054
Ve I would have to take a very long look if he actually plans on not commenting and posting his list all day I'll kill him though

Stutters I could kill

Ft no
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 00:53 GMT
#5329
On October 01 2013 06:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
There are a couple of things I don't like. For starters, he was appealing really hard at marv leading up to the LM lynch, telling him to come back and to post and blah blah. But if he really had this super town read on marv, it occurs to me that he would have wanted to lynch marv's preference, Cephiro for that lynch. Especially considering iamp had "suspicions" of his own:

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
1: DarthPunk/sb-
town because dp being a little bitch about people calling him scum and then replacing out because of it means he is extremely likely to be town. Plus he was pretty active and in the spotlight day one anyways.

2: raynpelikoneet-
town his most recent push on firm while misguides seemed legit at least and looked like he was at least trying to figure out alignments and overall good activity and seems to have been one of the major players. He is good as scum but i think he has been legit and real in his posts.

5: yamato77-
town he just is plus he got protected and he wouldnt lie about that. Also was active before that

6: kushm4sta-
dont know. Rember the days when he used to be meiocore at this game. Now it seems like he spends his time just bithcing and moaning.

8: ObviousOne-
annoying but seems to have a matter fact way of not wanting to explain himself. bad but likely town.

10: FirmTofu-
Town This kid is town he has explained himself over and over agains hasnt really been afraid of the spotlight. Also has used his time to contribute in the right way with pushing see umasi instead of just defending himself this is what you do as town when you have pressure on you. you give your reads and your thoughts regardless of the pressure you dont complain. He is town

11: Pandain-
his sent push seems legit and seems to have some of the same reasoning i have. If he is thinking like means he is probally town. needs more actvity.

12: Cephiro-
seems to be always catching up for some reason and his last catching up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=133#2647 he promised to be a good townie going forward he didnt do shit. honestly i dont really know but fuck it ill say scum because fuck him.

13: Mr. Cheesecake-
im excused from reading him because i hate him. he will probally at some point afk from this game and be active somewhere else on tl.

14: decondu-
confused about why yamato was town would likely know his scum team shot yamato so slight indication he might be town i dont feel strong about need to see more from him.

15: Coagulation-
town no reason to not belive he is the vig with his and yamtos claims

16: Stutters695-
martyer hate that shit but who knows probally bad town though

17: iamperfection-
IC

18: Zenatsu/molango-
a double lurker. A sure sign of the apoclypse.

19: [UoN]Sentinel-
scum this is bad http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=45#888 it was just a long excuse to vote coag for no real reason listing lurkers is even worse than lurkers because it a way to look like your contributing . so is this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=85#1699 say absoloutly nothing on a major topic while sudetly supporting it and then when he votes for him hes not very clear on why he is scum just he has regressed from an earlier game. He has given some decent reasoning for some his thoughts later on so he isnt my strongest scum read but that day 1 still reads as scum.

20: VisceraEyes-
I dont really understand his existential crisis that he all of sudden for no real good reason but i dont see the scum motivation. Like he didnt use it as an excuse to not talk about the game as he is still talking so i would say town on him. has been generally active and talking about the game. His thinking that it may be possible both coag and yamato could be scum is kind of ridiclous as in to ridiclous to come from scum.

22: geript-
scum his biggest contribution for the entire game was to tunnel dp and make him rage quit. outside of that the rest of his day one was useless and hasnt done anything this cycle scum

23: Risen-
i dont fucking know hasnt really done anything could be scum in fact i would say leaning scum

24: LoneMeow-
dont know: calling stuff wierd but not scummy here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#690 scum do that because they dont have the balls to actually call someone scum. fucking martyer. suspicious of umasi though gives me pause might be super bad town. plus these days people who martyer have kind of been flipping town unfortunatly.

25: marvellosity-
Town seems active and intrested i will say town and improve my record of reading him almost always correctly. seems to have setled into the role of town leader.

26: Zaragon-
scum played the im a newbie card kind of wierd that he would go after ve as scum but in effect his vote was wasted and did nothing of vlaue. Says stuff like this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=87#1721 says sent isnt great case but leaning scum????????? dont know what that means. and wants to say im not sure it seems a lot and never really reaches solid conlusions that much.

27: Mattchew-
scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum

Umasi-scumi will give credit to firmtofu here i think he made solid point here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=151#3011 hes scum for that i would say

29: justanothertownie- was going to stay up to see my post +1 for eagerly awaiting iamperfection posts. outside of that he hasnt done a ton and hasnt had strong reads but seems to be self aware of that fact in a matter of fact way. My gut would say town.

30: Mocsta-towni like his case been active extremely likely town i would say efort etc....


Look at the size of this post! It's huge! But it says very little all things considered - little blurbs about every player. Of note, he's got several scumreads in here, but during the lynch period when it's uncertain and people are looking at other candidates for lynch, iamp is nowhere to be seen. I mean he's there, but where are all his scumreads from the post above? Why is he not trying to lead a lynch onto someone else?

But in spite of this, he DOES have time to defend Cephiro:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:36 iamperfection wrote:
ceph bothered to show up lone didn't even bother to look up the deadline.

...and throw shit at the Dr claim:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:54 iamperfection wrote:
hes lying kill him



lol i make those list posts in all my games i do it as both town and scum

town
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972&currentpage=41#818
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972&currentpage=86#1715
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=91#1809
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398360&currentpage=27#523

scum
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=412951&currentpage=71#1419

as for your point about me not pushing on to another lynch candidate

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=191#3812

And then for your point about me defending i was just assessing the situation ceph made nice looking posts to defend himself and showed interest in the lynch lone did not.

as for looking for marvs help. He is the only person's opinion that i actually value. Plus why would i want him to come back anyways just so he can yell at me to vote ceph so i can then vote my supposed scum buddy makes no sense.

As for the dr claim i have already explained it i made a call i was wrong. I thought it was a fake claim at the time. I was wrong that doesn't make me scum.

so in conclusion

ve

i await your response oh wait your dead good job.


Also your lucky i am town ve or i would be ultra pissed at this bs
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 00:58 GMT
#5333
On October 01 2013 09:58 Coagulation wrote:
wait did you mean "also your luck i am not town ve or i would be ultra pissed at this bs" ?

because if i was scum i would be ultra pissed about a townie making a case mid cycle and then confirming himself as town.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 00:59 GMT
#5334
On October 01 2013 09:58 Coagulation wrote:
iamperfection just scum slipped lol.

your retarded
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 01:02 GMT
#5337
On October 01 2013 05:59 Stutters695 wrote:
Lynch Moc over VE plz.


Fun facts: Moc fake claimed to lynch a claimed doctor over scum., ensuring at least one night of extra KP while wasting a lynch.

I have been a constant scum read of Moc's yet he wants to lynch VE because he's a better player/hasn't done shit? I don't buy it.

i hope this isnt the awesome post you were hoping to provide

you summed up facts and told us what half the thread already has.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 16:58 GMT
#5504
On October 01 2013 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't like FT lynch. I don't like Mocsta lynch either.

What i do like is:
##Unvote:
##Vote: iamperfection

He is not looking like his townie self, at all, in this game. Despite being replaced he has caught up as can be seen from his first reads post. After that post he has been really absent, asking people's read on him and shit. Then there is his horrible analysis fron D2 votes. That's completely wrong and iamp is not that wrong as town. He is scum.

this is horrible are you scum rayn?

Your main point is that i'm wrong so i must be scum that is the most supect reasoning for thinking someone is scum ever.

and you admit in this post that i clearly took the time to read the entire thread (something i would be less likely to do if i replaced as scum).

you also say i was really absent but then asked people to give reads on me well which one is it. Plus what scum likes people talking about them anyways that isnt a scum motivated action in the slightest.

I see through mocs thoughts how he could actually think that i am scum and his general effort in the case makes me believe even more he is town. But you show no sound reasoning whatsoever and this looks like complete bs to try a push a mislynch on me.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 17:00 GMT
#5505
risen do you think rayns voting for me is bs?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 17:06 GMT
#5507
do you think its scum bs or is he being bad?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 17:16 GMT
#5510
I think its even worse that rayn uses those reasons to say im the best lynch when we have a chance to reduce mafia kp.

Rayn are you still here dear?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 17:23 GMT
#5514
no rayn i have explained it time and time again my reasoning. Your are using the result to make the basis that it isnt town motivated and not looking what happened at time because you are scum to make it suit your objective. I was clearly reacting to what happened at the time and reacting quickly.

i have another question for you why did you vote ve at the start of the cylce when it looks like from my understanding

On September 28 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really think iamp and CCare scum, i wanna see if you can find that out too.
Mark my words on D4.


when it looks like me and cc were your top reads unless im mistaken

you tell me rayn if your scum i wont hold it against you.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 17:24 GMT
#5516
On October 02 2013 02:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
I think its even worse that rayn uses those reasons to say im the best lynch when we have a chance to reduce mafia kp.

Rayn are you still here dear?

And fuck you with this. You are defending yourself based on "because you are maybe getting lynched when mafia KP is on the line". That's fucking fishy iamp. If people can't see what's wrong with this i am really sad.

Like, as there is mafia KP on the line does that make you town? Weak man... really weak.

um yeah because this is a very important list and your are using horrible reasoning to vote me that is super scummy.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 17:25 GMT
#5517
On October 02 2013 02:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
12: Cephiro-
seems to be always catching up for some reason and his last catching up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=133#2647 he promised to be a good townie going forward he didnt do shit. honestly i dont really know but fuck it ill say scum because fuck him.

24: LoneMeow-
dont know: calling stuff wierd but not scummy here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#690 scum do that because they dont have the balls to actually call someone scum. fucking martyer. suspicious of umasi though gives me pause might be super bad town. plus these days people who martyer have kind of been flipping town unfortunatly.


Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 10:59 iamperfection wrote:
Scummers

cephiro- i sheep marv


Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 11:12 iamperfection wrote:
On September 27 2013 11:11 geript wrote:
On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote:
Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order

1) cephiro
2) mocsta
3) firmtofu

And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap.

Read this again folks. Risen is scum.

fine and all but marv guarantees ceph is scum. he guarantees it


iamp, could you please explain to me the reason that you went from ceph to LoneMeow? The only thing I can see in your flip in policy is that you liked that ceph was around for a couple of posts. What exactly about these posts that ceph made was enough to overturn your decision?

Also, you call LoneMeow a bad town. Why is it that you were so unwilling to believe he was bad town with the doctor claim? Why is it that you decided he was a liar before actually looking through his filter for a reference to yamato?

Why is it that you've taken a backseat role for all four lynches? This isn't the town iamp I'm used to seeing.

because it was sudden and last minute i had to think quickly and my gut said fake claim when i first saw it. I thought he was the leading vote getter at the time i dont know if he actually wa but at the time i thought it. So then i open his filter see no yam anywhere and i determined fake claim. The rest is history
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 17:27 GMT
#5518
and look i dont want to make a ton of excuses i realize i dont look my super town i found it very hard to replace in and get a feel for this game. Maybe i let my ego get in the way when i should of sheeped marv but i decided to have an active control of that lynch because thats what i do.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 17:31 GMT
#5521
On October 02 2013 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 02:23 iamperfection wrote:
no rayn i have explained it time and time again my reasoning. Your are using the result to make the basis that it isnt town motivated and not looking what happened at time because you are scum to make it suit your objective. I was clearly reacting to what happened at the time and reacting quickly.

i have another question for you why did you vote ve at the start of the cylce when it looks like from my understanding

On September 28 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really think iamp and CCare scum, i wanna see if you can find that out too.
Mark my words on D4.


when it looks like me and cc were your top reads unless im mistaken

you tell me rayn if your scum i wont hold it against you.

Because i can't vote for all the people i think are scum. I have only one vote. wtf is this question? In case you have been reading i have had VE as my scumread for a long time. Then he decided to ragequit.

yeah but it makes no sense when you really think me and cc are scum. and mark your words implies you should have been excited to get your thoughts out there. but no you voted ve makes no sense.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 01 2013 17:32 GMT
#5524
On October 02 2013 02:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 02:25 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 02:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 25 2013 11:55 iamperfection wrote:
12: Cephiro-
seems to be always catching up for some reason and his last catching up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=133#2647 he promised to be a good townie going forward he didnt do shit. honestly i dont really know but fuck it ill say scum because fuck him.

24: LoneMeow-
dont know: calling stuff wierd but not scummy here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#690 scum do that because they dont have the balls to actually call someone scum. fucking martyer. suspicious of umasi though gives me pause might be super bad town. plus these days people who martyer have kind of been flipping town unfortunatly.


On September 27 2013 10:59 iamperfection wrote:
Scummers

cephiro- i sheep marv


On September 27 2013 11:12 iamperfection wrote:
On September 27 2013 11:11 geript wrote:
On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote:
Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order

1) cephiro
2) mocsta
3) firmtofu

And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap.

Read this again folks. Risen is scum.

fine and all but marv guarantees ceph is scum. he guarantees it


iamp, could you please explain to me the reason that you went from ceph to LoneMeow? The only thing I can see in your flip in policy is that you liked that ceph was around for a couple of posts. What exactly about these posts that ceph made was enough to overturn your decision?

Also, you call LoneMeow a bad town. Why is it that you were so unwilling to believe he was bad town with the doctor claim? Why is it that you decided he was a liar before actually looking through his filter for a reference to yamato?

Why is it that you've taken a backseat role for all four lynches? This isn't the town iamp I'm used to seeing.

because it was sudden and last minute i had to think quickly and my gut said fake claim when i first saw it. I thought he was the leading vote getter at the time i dont know if he actually wa but at the time i thought it. So then i open his filter see no yam anywhere and i determined fake claim. The rest is history


But you determined fake claim before you opened his filter according to the time stamps. Also, it seems like you already made up your mind before the doctor claim. You were threatening to vote him after he showed up to vote ceph. What about ceph's posts made you think he could be town when you said "at least ceph is around and posting". If anything, those posts would have made me think that he is more likely mafia.

because caring about the lynch is one of the ways i find scum. I have found in the past scum show less intrest and are more apathetic to the lynch cephiro showed up lone hadn't to the last second
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