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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 26 2013 22:20 GMT
#4475
On September 27 2013 07:19 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 05:55 yamato77 wrote:
On September 27 2013 05:52 Mattchew wrote:
Stupid =\= alignment and his push on me was extremely towny... Hes making cases and believes in his reads

No it wasn't. He fucking dropped the case even thought he still "thought you were scum" because Marv and I came to the correct conclusion and pushed other lynches. He doesn't believe in his reads any more than it takes to lynch some townie.


Uh if this is your argument its too situational.

Disagree he doesn't believe reads as he's been pushing them and consistant.

I'm actually going to say Mocsta shouldn't be vig'd at all. I think he's town. I'll explain later.

You also had Marv and I that both said that you shouldn't take what you just said as a town heuristic.

And this "I'll explain later" shit ends. If you think he's town, we have this discussion now.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 26 2013 22:21 GMT
#4476
On September 27 2013 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On September 27 2013 07:15 yamato77 wrote:
VE, you kinda just said exactly what Marv said about him.

Your point?

It tells me nothing about your alignment, or iamp.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 26 2013 22:23 GMT
#4478
On September 27 2013 07:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
It makes me lean townier on iamp. I feel like scum would have, in general, been afraid to comment on something so definitively when dude was about to flip. Like, not impossible, just unlikely to me.

what if scum really just wanted to lynch the doctor?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 26 2013 22:33 GMT
#4482
On September 27 2013 07:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
I just don't think there was time for scum to come to a consensus about something like that, or take action to do anything about it. Why not just either let him hang himself (he really didn't mention you Yam at all D1 before protecting you) or shoot him at night?

I was a consensus townread for most of the thread. Does he have to mention me for it to be believable? No. Without Mocsta's counterclaim (that makes him mafia), there's no reason to disbelieve him. Scum would HAVE to push the counter-logic sentiment in order to secure a lynch.

I highly disagree that this one action is at all townie-leaning. He takes zero risk by disbelieving the claim, and gains an excuse to vote for the doctor.

This, combined with the fact that the rest of his filter reads noncommittal and altogether useless makes me think iamp is mafia. It also is kinda funny that his action fits in with Mocsta's in that the scum team went all-in on lynching the doc.

VE, if you're actually town, you need to realize that you may be the best townie alive tomorrow, and you will be responsible for making sure a scum gets lynched. If you don't side with mine or Marv's reads, who are you going to push tomorrow? I want definitive answers.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 26 2013 22:34 GMT
#4486
On September 27 2013 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On September 26 2013 10:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2013 10:52 Cephiro wrote:
That claim, what the fuck!? I'm not sure if I should believe it or not x_x Then again if he IS the town doc it's better that I get lynched instead of him, and I'm not leading by many votes.... fucking claims like 10 mins before deadline? Counterclaims anyone?

The hell? Don't counterclaim!

I think this makes JAT town maybe. :/

The inception-post also makes me feel better about Ceph being mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 26 2013 22:36 GMT
#4488
On September 27 2013 07:34 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 07:20 yamato77 wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:19 Pandain wrote:
On September 27 2013 05:55 yamato77 wrote:
On September 27 2013 05:52 Mattchew wrote:
Stupid =\= alignment and his push on me was extremely towny... Hes making cases and believes in his reads

No it wasn't. He fucking dropped the case even thought he still "thought you were scum" because Marv and I came to the correct conclusion and pushed other lynches. He doesn't believe in his reads any more than it takes to lynch some townie.


Uh if this is your argument its too situational.

Disagree he doesn't believe reads as he's been pushing them and consistant.

I'm actually going to say Mocsta shouldn't be vig'd at all. I think he's town. I'll explain later.

You also had Marv and I that both said that you shouldn't take what you just said as a town heuristic.

And this "I'll explain later" shit ends. If you think he's town, we have this discussion now.


19 pages of filter before day two. Super active all time. Proactively pushing players. A lot of his pushes seem smart and have good logic. He isn't being dumb or bullshitting(pre bullshit). Like before this I could not put him even near my scum list.


He has said plenty of things that are flat-out bullshit, especially D2. Marv and I both pointed them out.

Activity is not an alignment tell with Moc, as has been said many times. Neither is pushing lynches. Remember, HE LIKES BEING MAFIA.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 26 2013 22:39 GMT
#4492
On September 27 2013 07:39 iamperfection wrote:
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On September 27 2013 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:30 iamperfection wrote:
so i will be able to post updated scum reads before the deadline but i will be out the next couple hours i was watching through my phone and i want these thoughts and musings out now.

Don't shoot geript i think despite my hatred for such a player he is town. His trolling and ninja voting while super annoying and no town player should ever do it is more of indication of him being town. It puts a huge target on his back and gives him a ton of attention and despite what i am saying here a lot of players would vig him anyways. Its a sucidal strategy and it is likely coming from an idiot townie.

I think Mr CC is town. He did the same thing i did when he saw the claim. Opened his filter to see if it made any sense it did not. This looks like to me that he is trying to figure things out. Mr cc would have known that lone was telling the truth if he was scum.

conversely Sents reaction troubles me the most because he instantly believed it and didn't even bother to look for reasoning.

Marv if your not gonna bother to show up around the lynch don't complain about the result. Its extremely likely your town and you fucking off two hours before when we need you is unacceptable. don't do it again.

for night actions drs on yamato and marv
dts do what you want




why are you saying retarded things?

how am i supposed to stay up for a 5am lynch when i work a fulltime job?

you said you were going to watch got


yes, about 6 hours before the lynch. I did indeed watch GoT then I went to bed.

Because I work and functionally need to sleep and shit.

What are you talking about your last post was like 2 hours before the lynch

why did you only take a stance on the lynch when LM claimed doctor?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 26 2013 22:42 GMT
#4495
On September 27 2013 07:41 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 07:39 yamato77 wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:39 iamperfection wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:30 iamperfection wrote:
so i will be able to post updated scum reads before the deadline but i will be out the next couple hours i was watching through my phone and i want these thoughts and musings out now.

Don't shoot geript i think despite my hatred for such a player he is town. His trolling and ninja voting while super annoying and no town player should ever do it is more of indication of him being town. It puts a huge target on his back and gives him a ton of attention and despite what i am saying here a lot of players would vig him anyways. Its a sucidal strategy and it is likely coming from an idiot townie.

I think Mr CC is town. He did the same thing i did when he saw the claim. Opened his filter to see if it made any sense it did not. This looks like to me that he is trying to figure things out. Mr cc would have known that lone was telling the truth if he was scum.

conversely Sents reaction troubles me the most because he instantly believed it and didn't even bother to look for reasoning.

Marv if your not gonna bother to show up around the lynch don't complain about the result. Its extremely likely your town and you fucking off two hours before when we need you is unacceptable. don't do it again.

for night actions drs on yamato and marv
dts do what you want




why are you saying retarded things?

how am i supposed to stay up for a 5am lynch when i work a fulltime job?

you said you were going to watch got


yes, about 6 hours before the lynch. I did indeed watch GoT then I went to bed.

Because I work and functionally need to sleep and shit.

What are you talking about your last post was like 2 hours before the lynch

why did you only take a stance on the lynch when LM claimed doctor?

because i was debating on who to kill and this is what happened in front of me. I looked at his filter and thought he was full of shit

why did you not believe him before the counterclaim? there's seriously no good reason to lynch the claim without one
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 26 2013 22:47 GMT
#4498
On September 27 2013 07:46 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 07:42 yamato77 wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:41 iamperfection wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:39 yamato77 wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:39 iamperfection wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
On September 27 2013 07:30 iamperfection wrote:
so i will be able to post updated scum reads before the deadline but i will be out the next couple hours i was watching through my phone and i want these thoughts and musings out now.

Don't shoot geript i think despite my hatred for such a player he is town. His trolling and ninja voting while super annoying and no town player should ever do it is more of indication of him being town. It puts a huge target on his back and gives him a ton of attention and despite what i am saying here a lot of players would vig him anyways. Its a sucidal strategy and it is likely coming from an idiot townie.

I think Mr CC is town. He did the same thing i did when he saw the claim. Opened his filter to see if it made any sense it did not. This looks like to me that he is trying to figure things out. Mr cc would have known that lone was telling the truth if he was scum.

conversely Sents reaction troubles me the most because he instantly believed it and didn't even bother to look for reasoning.

Marv if your not gonna bother to show up around the lynch don't complain about the result. Its extremely likely your town and you fucking off two hours before when we need you is unacceptable. don't do it again.

for night actions drs on yamato and marv
dts do what you want




why are you saying retarded things?

how am i supposed to stay up for a 5am lynch when i work a fulltime job?

you said you were going to watch got


yes, about 6 hours before the lynch. I did indeed watch GoT then I went to bed.

Because I work and functionally need to sleep and shit.

What are you talking about your last post was like 2 hours before the lynch

why did you only take a stance on the lynch when LM claimed doctor?

because i was debating on who to kill and this is what happened in front of me. I looked at his filter and thought he was full of shit

why did you not believe him before the counterclaim? there's seriously no good reason to lynch the claim without one

i never believed him. He came in 10 mins before the lynch to claim dr. When you open his filter there is no mention of yamato. That looks like a fake claim to me just in hope to get a counter claim. So you wrong i had reasons

Him not mentioning me does not mean he didn't have a townread of me.

Nor is the timing of a claim scummy. Marv claimed cop 30 mins before lynch once, and he was town.

I don't believe you, iamp.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 01:46 GMT
#4557
If you're town, Moc, I will be shocked.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 01:55 GMT
#4561
On September 27 2013 10:49 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 10:46 yamato77 wrote:
If you're town, Moc, I will be shocked.

Like. U really need to review how u pressure and scum hunt.

How am I even meant to respond to this?

It's just slander yam. I am far from playing a perfect game, but at least I express clearly what my issues with play is. The same can not be said for u. Not once throughout the whole game have u actually explained why I'm scum. Other than he enjoys playing scum... And so what?

I don't need a lecture from you on how to play.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 02:02 GMT
#4569
told ya
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 29 2013 03:08 GMT
#4851
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 05 2013 05:31 GMT
#6367
geript you played like ass this game

i am disappoint.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 05 2013 23:38 GMT
#6415
On October 06 2013 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
As an aside, I enjoyed playing with Umasi, jat, Zaragon - 3 newer players. I hope they stick around and play more.

All 3 were easy town reads and tried to help in the game. Agreed.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 06 2013 13:28 GMT
#6429
On October 06 2013 14:25 gonzaw wrote:
If nobody gives a shit, then how are you going to make sure a game like this doesn't happen again?
People will now go "meh" and join the next game and do the exact same thing.

The very least we could get an analysis post from MZ or someone so....you know...people can learn from their mistakes and shit

I could critique every townie's play in the game, but I trust that the most egregious offenses committed have already been realized.

If someone wants my opinion of their play, I will be happy to share it.
Writer@WriterYamato
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