GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars

On August 08 2013 14:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
So who is scum so far from the 6 houses?
my house seems pretty townie

On August 08 2013 14:46 johnnywup wrote:

why would he do that? that seems pretty anti-town to do. If there's a scum/3p goal to kill a single house (think of Robert Baratheon wanting to kill every last Targaryen) then this would make their job infinitely easier if they can figure out the house.

I now realize that being elected Lord of a house can be a disadvantage as well as an advantage. It reveals what house you are. I thought that that would be anonymous but it looks like its otherwise. We want to give scum as little information as possible. I made the mistake in Night 0 of revealing my name, without realizing that there may be an assassin type of role. As long as there's no major disagreements within your house I think that it might be the best course of action to elect the same lord for every night if possible.

On August 08 2013 14:57 johnnywup wrote:

who is in my house?

let me copy paste what I just said:

If there's a scum/3p goal to kill a single house (think of Robert Baratheon wanting to kill every last Targaryen) then this would make their job infinitely easier

On August 08 2013 15:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
so yamato, you know whos in my house. How does that help you?

On August 08 2013 15:02 johnnywup wrote:
does it hurt to consider the possibility?

On August 08 2013 15:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
exactly, it doesnt help you.

On August 08 2013 15:08 Oatsmaster wrote:

you knowing my town reads on people doesnt help you.
fuck you too yamato.

On August 08 2013 15:11 Oatsmaster wrote:

um what?
you are so full of shit its spilling out.

On August 08 2013 15:35 Oatsmaster wrote:

yeah stop taking that retarded attitude.
Face it. You have no reason to know my house full of townreads.
You have not even told us the members in your house.
And I am loath to call someone a hypocrite, but sadly, thats what you are.

On August 08 2013 15:42 Oatsmaster wrote:

Wait.
So you ask me to tell you the members of my house.
And when I dont, im scummy.
But when you dont, its cause 'no one asked'

BULLSHIT YAMATO.

On August 08 2013 15:45 Oatsmaster wrote:

how can you take that condecending attitude??
How.
What a dick.

Why havent you talked to them?

On August 08 2013 15:47 Oatsmaster wrote:

I thought you said it was good for town?

On August 08 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:


Jeez dude thanks

On August 08 2013 15:51 Oatsmaster wrote:


you have house powers????
cool.

Why did your house choose to elect oberyn?

On August 08 2013 15:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yamato, can you give even 1 proper reason why knowing the composition of everyone's house today will help us lynch scum?
Info is an extremely vague answer.

On August 08 2013 16:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
so no reasons. COOL.
Whos scum yamato?

On August 08 2013 16:01 Onegu wrote:
How is in anyway what you did protown? You have zero reads because you havent PMd much you just gave info that is more valueable for scum than town out.

On August 08 2013 16:23 Onegu wrote:



If two houses then there are 8 people they dont know what house they are in giving them that info is stupid as it is much more valuable for them then giving it to town with zero reads to use with it.

On August 08 2013 16:15 Oatsmaster wrote:

so you change your tune from 'helping town' to it doesnt help scum right guys!!

its distraction yamato.

On August 08 2013 16:35 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why do you insist on being an insufferable prick?

On August 08 2013 16:53 Oatsmaster wrote:

so?
I dont know a single strong read of your either.
How does knowing my townreads help you in reading me ????

On August 08 2013 16:57 Onegu wrote:
You arent voteing anyone for lynch day one... Only lords vote...

On August 08 2013 17:08 kushm4sta wrote:
i am 100% willing to lynch yamato just to make him stfu. Strong policy lynch option IMO.

On August 09 2013 00:00 iamperfection wrote:
yamato when you get a chance can you break down how your election went down I'm a little confused.

On August 10 2013 05:11 Oberyn wrote:
yamato is getting on my nerves with his refusal to contribute. We shouldn't have to beg him.

I told him that he was the number one vig shot between the Lords and that he really needs to start posting if he is town.

His reply was essentially: "meh doubt it."

On August 10 2013 05:20 jrkirby wrote:
Yamato hasn't replied to my most recent PM which I sent 18 hours ago, either.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 10 2013 05:21 Acrofales wrote:

Why are you being so obstreperous? You could just share your thoughts, and communicate freely with your lord. Even I am communicating with your lord, and I think he's a blithering idiot... and that's IN ADDITION to the inborn propensity of all Martells to be duplicitous assholes. It is STILL what a loyalist would do: we must find Blackfyres.

On August 10 2013 05:24 Oberyn wrote:


Do you want a medal for your one-liner?

On August 10 2013 05:26 Grackaroni wrote:

Why were you so mad at oats at the start of the game for not allowing you to get a read on him when you don't care enough to allow others to get a read on you?

On August 10 2013 05:28 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really see as town how you could genuinely be angry at oats and then be a complete hypocrite to what you expect from others

On August 10 2013 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, people I want to lynch:

jrkirby: in addition to being largely absent, he is completely useless. All his utterances are regarding the structure of this meeting, and he seems completely unconcerned with finding Blackfyres.

FirmTofu: same story, except for his retarded case on me. His presentation of that case was suspect: why did he try to trump his "contribution" so badly? It was a non-contribution from someone who has not contributed at all during this meeting.

Yamato: open his filter. There is nothing there. Would lynch.

I have spent most of the last hour puzzling over s0lstice's filter. I am no longer comfortable lynching him. He is putting real effort into analysing the meeting, and not just into defending himself. I will have to satisfy myself that the internal politics of House Baratheon are retarded, but I don't think continued analysing of why s0lstice didn't vote for DI makes much sense: he is correct that the reasons for a Blackfyre acting that way are equally farfetched to the reasons for a loyalist. I must simply discard that evidence. Is he loyal to the realm? I do not know, but I feel he is a valuable enough asset to let live for now.

On August 10 2013 05:55 Acrofales wrote:

In a previous encounter, a jousting match at Castle PTP, he was largely unavailable and never contributed anything of value, yet was town. Not to say that I encourage that behaviour, but I'm not sure it's sufficient for murdering him.

On August 10 2013 06:04 strongandbig wrote:

idiot
i'm busier today than i was yesterday. that doesn't mean im lurking. i just coutned, i have sent 123 PMs this game. so fuck you saying i'm scum for inactivity.

also you should know better than this. my activity is just as bad when i'm town as it is when i'm scum. if not worse. you are making up things to suit your agenda and i woudl be down to lynch or vig you.

On August 10 2013 06:08 strongandbig wrote:

no you fucker my defense is that i have been way, way more active than many people in this game, including you.

On August 10 2013 06:07 Oberyn wrote:


I enjoy it, but I'd be fine for lynching acro for being mafia.

On August 11 2013 15:06 Sharrant wrote:
At any rate, here's reason that you should've picked up on big time already. That whole argument with you at the beginning of the game was not Yamato playing as a townie. I watched you two basically get each other killed arguing with each other as town last time I played with both of you. Yamato has acted very similarly to how he has there, with the exception that he was always driving to make a point or do something useful last game. He was very disruptive, and frustrating, but purposeful and his actions had merit.

In this game he's basically just disrupted conversation, but done so without helping the town. He's been shutting people down, and causing arguments to stifle discussion. There's been nothing useful in his play.

He is mafia, guaranteed. Can you not see the difference in how he argued both games being on the receiving end of it both times?

On August 10 2013 13:29 Acrofales wrote:
I have caught up. There's nothing particularly poignant. Going to watch TI3. I'm online. This lynch looks like a mislynch with the lack of contesting it.

But I am too drunk and don't care enough to fight it. FT has been useles, lets kill him regardless of alignment.

On August 11 2013 15:34 yamato77 wrote:

It's depressing to me that no one called out Acro on how fucking scummy this single post is.

On August 11 2013 16:39 johnnywup wrote:

coming from you? lol. who would you propose we elect, if not acro? im not voting kush and sharrant said hes going to be pretty much afk today.

On August 11 2013 16:54 Ace wrote:
dat genius level thinkin

anyway I dont think talking about Acro being elected means shit right now. Lets wait for the next claim and not spam this thread up.

On August 11 2013 17:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
My conclusion might be wrong btw. If one of the lords is scum and was aware of the plan... But it makes more sense if the leak is from house lannister because they knew exactly how much hp gumshoe had left.
Surely scum would just let town kill a lurker town if they weren't sure how much kp they'd have to use.

On August 12 2013 03:07 iamperfection wrote:

because i dont feel like putting it there yet i would like to see him dance for my amusement.

On August 11 2013 21:40 Acrofales wrote:
First things first. I haven't read the minutes for the start of today's meeting yet, but I received some important information that I was asked to pass on to the other lords. It seems it is actually pertinent to everybody here. One of my vassals has a network of little birds, who have uncovered that Yamato is a Blackfyre pretender. I trust him and I trust his abilities.

##vote Yamato

On August 12 2013 03:31 iamperfection wrote:

so you have a red check on you yamato and havent really given a shit about the game.

Which you gonna do now?

On August 12 2013 03:33 iamperfection wrote:

o ok i get it

## Vote Yamato

On August 12 2013 03:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yamato it's cool that you're scum but enough with the pictures, standard tl rules still apply.



He's claimed scum.

On August 12 2013 03:50 Chromatically wrote:

yeah I have a sneaking suspicion about yamato

On August 12 2013 03:59 Xatalos wrote:
Okay, so Yamato is scum (unless he's playing 100% against his win condition atm).

This means that Sharrant is almost confirmed town. I think it's also pretty safe to start looking at Yamato's filter and suspicious interactions with / posts about Yamato.

I'm dying to unravel the mystery of my roleblock, but if Oberyn is convinced that the information should be kept hidden, so be it.

Acro, why am I apparently your scum suspect? Referring to your PM about Lannisters. I'd really like to know what's your basis.

On August 12 2013 03:32 yamato77 wrote:

Why are you voting me? Don't you see how non-threatening I am? c

On August 12 2013 04:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats was trying to convince me yamato was town and vivax was trying to convince me yamato was scum.
I think both oats and vivax are town. Is that weird?

On August 12 2013 04:04 Koshi wrote:
Also, can you just stop posting yamato? This is just silly.

On August 12 2013 04:08 Dandel Ion wrote:

what you did this game:

1) rolefish
2) roleplay

so since you're only rolling, you're scum.
You always rolefish as scum, it's ur META
DONT DENY THE META
META
META
LONG LIVE META

On August 12 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
He seemed pretty town n0, and has done nothing since.

Dunno what to tell you, I wanna trust my initial impression of him.... He did the pressure on me and then backed off when he still thought I might be scum telling me "I'd rather just see how you do and there's no much more to say"
If he were scum he could've easily kept tunneling me...

But yeah, he hasn't done anything d1 or n1. He claimed during n1 that he wasn't gonna be active this daycycle but would run for lord again n2. Saying that he (paraphrasing) "wants to re-earn the obv-towniness he showed n0"

He could definitely be scum but we've got other stuff to do like kill scum-confirmed yamato and then figure out whatsup with this tracker stuff. By then we should know if he's scum. In sicilian he showed his true colours in time (ignoring the vigi shot)

On August 12 2013 05:46 yamato77 wrote:


EBWOP:

On August 12 2013 05:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yamato is it possible for you to stop? I'm actually getting pretty annoyed to the point that I wanna report you.
I asked you to stop earlier.

If you wanna go "LOL DUMB LOL" or whatever go ahead but quit it with the damn pictures and gifs.

On August 12 2013 05:52 Clarity_nl wrote:


What I don't appreciate is a fucking 3 second loop moving in the corner of my eye for the rest of the day.
But yes, I don't appreciate your humor either.

On August 12 2013 05:55 yamato77 wrote:

Obviously you take your job really seriously.

And so do I! That's why I'm inviting you to play a game with me!

How about you keep replying to me, and I'll stop posting pictures!

Deal?

On August 12 2013 05:57 yamato77 wrote:

In the fine print, this contract stipulates that any lapse in response that exceeds 15 minutes is grounds for cancellation.

On August 12 2013 06:25 Risen wrote:


Some things have changed, some haven't. Honestly I haven't read the thread much (at all) since the start of this day. I'll catch up after invitational is over.

On August 12 2013 06:21 Xatalos wrote:
##Nuke yamato77

On August 12 2013 08:20 Risen wrote:
Link to scumclaim please

On August 12 2013 12:08 Oberyn wrote:
##Vote yamato77

I haven't been around a computer all day, but I should be available most of tomorrow. The thread should be made aware that I am not a watcher and Onegu is not a 1-shot medic. It was probably a long shot, but I have received no information regarding the identity of the roleblocker. Carry on.

On August 12 2013 03:59 Xatalos wrote:
Okay, so Yamato is scum (unless he's playing 100% against his win condition atm).

This means that Sharrant is almost confirmed town. I think it's also pretty safe to start looking at Yamato's filter and suspicious interactions with / posts about Yamato.

On August 11 2013 22:25 Oatsmaster wrote:

no?
I thought this earlier.
His argument with me at the start seems a lot like town yamato man.
Actually yamato has been really aggressive man. After he came back to the thread, he bitched about acro attacking dudes and shit. Quintessential town yamato. I would be so surprised if he flips scum.

On August 09 2013 03:27 Risen wrote:
Alrighty so...

Oats v Yamato is two scum destroying the thread.

On August 09 2013 02:35 kushm4sta wrote:
hey all i will be more active second half of the game! for now i wanna lynch yamato on policy grounds

On August 10 2013 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Yamato: open his filter. There is nothing there. Would lynch.

On August 10 2013 06:04 strongandbig wrote:

also you should know better than this. my activity is just as bad when i'm town as it is when i'm scum. if not worse. you are making up things to suit your agenda and i woudl be down to lynch or vig you.

On August 10 2013 06:49 jrkirby wrote:
People I want lynched/shot:
4) Yamato. He is clearly the scummiest guy in our house. He didn't PM me until nearly the end of N0 for me to realize I got his real username wrong, and also was asking oberyn and onegu to vote for him. His arguments with oats just served to lengthen the thread without any real substance, and he hasn't posted any scumreads with substance.

On August 12 2013 12:21 johnnywup wrote:
ok im back. had a great day at the beach :D

the thread has gotten freaking hilarious lately lol. yamato confirmed scum. i assume he'll die from a lynch despite HP due to yesterday, so I'm guessing lynches pierce HP?

On August 12 2013 03:46 Koshi wrote:
Yamato red check is quite damning and should be enough evidence to get him lynched today. Yamato being either miller or being framed is unlikely. If this is the case then this is bad luck. Not lynching yamato is bad play.

On August 12 2013 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don´t think yamato is town, and all my scumreads basically claimed blue..

On August 12 2013 16:52 Oatsmaster wrote:

not after like almost 2 pages.

I wanna kill him as fast as possible cause I know he is scum now. Why bother waiting?

On August 09 2013 18:00 Grackaroni wrote:
There was an exchange between Oats and Yamato at the start of the game that rubbed me the wrong way. It was so disruptive and anti-town, that I have trouble believing that it came from 2 town players. It didn't seem normal to me and I even got a little bit of a staged feeling (as in they could be both scum randomly attacking each other at the start of the game). I think remember someone claiming they were probably town for being aggressive but some scum are more comfortable getting in arguments with people to help buff up their post count and mask their lack of contributions.

On August 12 2013 01:54 Chromatically wrote:
I don't see any reason to not lynch yamato here, he's been mostly arguing with people over dumb things and hasn't been trying to find scum. No reason not to believe the red check given the unlikeliness he was framed.

##Vote: yamato

On August 09 2013 22:37 Vivax wrote:


Are you scum Acro?
How did yamato contribute more than me in any way? He only got into a shit fight with Oats and disappeared.

Question for you: Can you tell me about a single read/suspect from yamato you know about?

On August 12 2013 16:59 Xatalos wrote:
Btw I'm going to laugh so hard if Sharrant comes here and says that his red check was a fake as well. yamato would sure feel dumb

On August 12 2013 16:21 Clarity_nl wrote:


Kind of expected sadly. Whats with the new meta to fakeclaim everything?

On August 11 2013 22:33 Sharrant wrote:
I claimed my role to Acro last night (I'm a one shot alignment cop). I asked him who I should target with it, he said Kush and Yamato. Both players I had in mind originally. In case he was mafia I lied and said I would target Kush.

On August 12 2013 17:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

Ace is posting. And its been useless. Why as town does Ace post useless things Xata? Is it cause Ace is my scumbuddy?

On August 12 2013 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote:

Well some effort he has shown. Its just not very good.

On August 12 2013 18:13 johnnywup wrote:
Oh yeah can I remind people to vote yamato77 and not yamato. There was a situation in NWM where an action didn't go on because the name was misspelt, and i don't want that to happen here.

On August 12 2013 18:21 johnnywup wrote:
you're certainly helping yamato

On August 20 2013 17:25 Ace wrote:
@yamato

I actually vigi'd you in Sicilian Mafia because you were talking nonsense, not laziness
How did Sharrant catch you?

On August 20 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I'm going to use this seal picture whenever I scumclaim from now on :D Thanks Yamato!