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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 11 2013 06:09 GMT
#1681
no I cant sharrant, I do not see anything different.

In this game he's basically just disrupted conversation, but done so without helping the town. He's been shutting people down, and causing arguments to stifle discussion.

This doesnt happen.

No gg, No skill.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
August 11 2013 06:19 GMT
#1682
I've got to get to bed and I'm not sure I'll be able to be very active the first half of the cycle, but something that comes to mind:

gumshoe has 7 kp.

The Lords shoot 6 kp, meaning the mafia likely finished him off.

4 players knew it would take a single kp to finish off gumshoe. The mafia obviously aren't going to spend more kp than they have to on a 2 post inactive like gumshoe.

Extreme FOS to the players who had knowledge of his hp check.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 11 2013 06:22 GMT
#1683
On August 11 2013 15:06 Sharrant wrote:
At any rate, here's reason that you should've picked up on big time already. That whole argument with you at the beginning of the game was not Yamato playing as a townie. I watched you two basically get each other killed arguing with each other as town last time I played with both of you. Yamato has acted very similarly to how he has there, with the exception that he was always driving to make a point or do something useful last game. He was very disruptive, and frustrating, but purposeful and his actions had merit.

In this game he's basically just disrupted conversation, but done so without helping the town. He's been shutting people down, and causing arguments to stifle discussion. There's been nothing useful in his play.

He is mafia, guaranteed. Can you not see the difference in how he argued both games being on the receiving end of it both times?

You were scum in that game, so forgive me if I find your opinion... biased.
Writer@WriterYamato
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
August 11 2013 06:24 GMT
#1684
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...


Just to follow up on this...

Did iamp inform you of the results of the check before the night cycle ended?
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
August 11 2013 06:28 GMT
#1685
Yes. I did consider this as well after i said that in thread but more likely he was shot additionally by a townie with kp. Scum could have gotten a free lynch from Gumshoe today...
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 11 2013 06:31 GMT
#1686
On August 11 2013 15:19 Oberyn wrote:
I've got to get to bed and I'm not sure I'll be able to be very active the first half of the cycle, but something that comes to mind:

gumshoe has 7 kp.

The Lords shoot 6 kp, meaning the mafia likely finished him off.

4 players knew it would take a single kp to finish off gumshoe. The mafia obviously aren't going to spend more kp than they have to on a 2 post inactive like gumshoe.

Extreme FOS to the players who had knowledge of his hp check.


Why would scum want gumshoe dead ASAP though? He wasn't doing anything. But if we follow your logic, one of me, iamperfection or grackaroni is scum. I have townreads on all three of us now though, so I doubt it. It could have been a Vigi or something similar as well.

I was roleblocked tonight. Dunno for what reason.

I agree mostly with iamperfection's list. Vivax seems probably scum, even more apathetic than Acro. Not so sure about Kush or jrkirby being scum though. Both felt slightly town to me despite their anti-town play. But they do have so few posts that it wouldn't be any real shock if they were. Yamato and snb are both somewhat scummy based on their lack of care so far. Acro should be on the red side as well though, for the same reason.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
August 11 2013 06:33 GMT
#1687
On August 11 2013 15:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Yes. I did consider this as well after i said that in thread but more likely he was shot additionally by a townie with kp. Scum could have gotten a free lynch from Gumshoe today...


You don't find it incredibly strange that a player releases the number of shots it takes to eliminate 4 players at a point where the mafia can still submit their night hits?

If there is a townie who used a kp to finish off gumshoe, I think they should claim to their Lord, that Lord pms their strongest town read Lord, and the town kp is claimed anonymously in the thread.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 11 2013 06:34 GMT
#1688
On August 10 2013 13:29 Acrofales wrote:
I have caught up. There's nothing particularly poignant. Going to watch TI3. I'm online. This lynch looks like a mislynch with the lack of contesting it.

But I am too drunk and don't care enough to fight it. FT has been useles, lets kill him regardless of alignment.

It's depressing to me that no one called out Acro on how fucking scummy this single post is.
Writer@WriterYamato
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 11 2013 06:34 GMT
#1689
Btw gumshoe couldn't have been protected because iamperfection said that according to hosts, Lord KP is unbkockable.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 11 2013 06:37 GMT
#1690
On August 11 2013 15:34 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 13:29 Acrofales wrote:
I have caught up. There's nothing particularly poignant. Going to watch TI3. I'm online. This lynch looks like a mislynch with the lack of contesting it.

But I am too drunk and don't care enough to fight it. FT has been useles, lets kill him regardless of alignment.

It's depressing to me that no one called out Acro on how fucking scummy this single post is.

It's even more depressing that he got elected Lord again, lol.

jubjubs in Tyrell, no surprise.
Writer@WriterYamato
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
August 11 2013 06:38 GMT
#1691
On August 11 2013 15:31 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 15:19 Oberyn wrote:
I've got to get to bed and I'm not sure I'll be able to be very active the first half of the cycle, but something that comes to mind:

gumshoe has 7 kp.

The Lords shoot 6 kp, meaning the mafia likely finished him off.

4 players knew it would take a single kp to finish off gumshoe. The mafia obviously aren't going to spend more kp than they have to on a 2 post inactive like gumshoe.

Extreme FOS to the players who had knowledge of his hp check.


Why would scum want gumshoe dead ASAP though? He wasn't doing anything. But if we follow your logic, one of me, iamperfection or grackaroni is scum. I have townreads on all three of us now though, so I doubt it. It could have been a Vigi or something similar as well.


It's also possible that another Lord used their kp check. If no town claims the shot, then I'd be extremely suspicious of whoever knew how much it would take to kill gumshoe. Mafia would obviously want gumshoe dead ASAP if they knew it would only take 1 kp, since he could be blue and is a easy pick off when there are players with 7+ hp around.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 11 2013 06:41 GMT
#1692
I'm more worried about why no one ELSE died than why gumshoe ended up dead.
Writer@WriterYamato
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
August 11 2013 06:46 GMT
#1693
On August 11 2013 15:19 Oberyn wrote:
I've got to get to bed and I'm not sure I'll be able to be very active the first half of the cycle, but something that comes to mind:

gumshoe has 7 kp.

The Lords shoot 6 kp, meaning the mafia likely finished him off.

4 players knew it would take a single kp to finish off gumshoe. The mafia obviously aren't going to spend more kp than they have to on a 2 post inactive like gumshoe.

Extreme FOS to the players who had knowledge of his hp check.

Actually now that I think about it, it's the exact opposite of that. Mafia have no kills most likely because they spread out their kp towards too many targets and didn't expect us to have 7 hp. So if the people such as myself who knew of the hp check were mafia there would be dead townies today aside from Gumshoe.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 11 2013 06:48 GMT
#1694
probably cause mafia kp is less than whoever they targeted.
No gg, No skill.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
August 11 2013 06:50 GMT
#1695
On August 11 2013 15:31 Xatalos wrote:
I was roleblocked tonight. Dunno for what reason.


I'm going to roleclaim now because I think it leads us to at least one mafia lynch.

I'm Oberyn Martell The Watcher who targeted Xatalos last night. I saw two different players visit Xatalos during the night cycle. Claim in the thread the reason you were visiting him or we assume you're the roleblocker and we lynch you.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
August 11 2013 06:52 GMT
#1696
On August 11 2013 15:50 Oberyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 15:31 Xatalos wrote:
I was roleblocked tonight. Dunno for what reason.


I'm going to roleclaim now because I think it leads us to at least one mafia lynch.

I'm Oberyn Martell The Watcher who targeted Xatalos last night. I saw two different players visit Xatalos during the night cycle. Claim in the thread the reason you were visiting him or we assume you're the roleblocker and we lynch you.


Actually on second thought. PM your Lord the reason that you were visiting Xatalos. That way we don't potentially expose a blue. The Lord can then PM me with the reason. If I don't hear back, I'll just out both players and we can decide between the scummiest.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 11 2013 07:33 GMT
#1697
I see no reason not to claim since my ability is 1-shot anyways. I'm a medic that chose to protect Xatalos last night. Whoever was the other person must be the roleblocker
Try TL Mafia!!!
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 11 2013 07:39 GMT
#1698
On August 11 2013 15:37 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 15:34 yamato77 wrote:
On August 10 2013 13:29 Acrofales wrote:
I have caught up. There's nothing particularly poignant. Going to watch TI3. I'm online. This lynch looks like a mislynch with the lack of contesting it.

But I am too drunk and don't care enough to fight it. FT has been useles, lets kill him regardless of alignment.

It's depressing to me that no one called out Acro on how fucking scummy this single post is.

It's even more depressing that he got elected Lord again, lol.

jubjubs in Tyrell, no surprise.

coming from you? lol. who would you propose we elect, if not acro? im not voting kush and sharrant said hes going to be pretty much afk today.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 11 2013 07:45 GMT
#1699
well this sure is interesting
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 11 2013 07:46 GMT
#1700
On August 11 2013 16:39 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 15:37 yamato77 wrote:
On August 11 2013 15:34 yamato77 wrote:
On August 10 2013 13:29 Acrofales wrote:
I have caught up. There's nothing particularly poignant. Going to watch TI3. I'm online. This lynch looks like a mislynch with the lack of contesting it.

But I am too drunk and don't care enough to fight it. FT has been useles, lets kill him regardless of alignment.

It's depressing to me that no one called out Acro on how fucking scummy this single post is.

It's even more depressing that he got elected Lord again, lol.

jubjubs in Tyrell, no surprise.

coming from you? lol. who would you propose we elect, if not acro? im not voting kush and sharrant said hes going to be pretty much afk today.

Yourself? Assuming you're town, of course.

Then again, I might have to actually read your filter.
Writer@WriterYamato
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