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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 16:55 GMT
#1895
On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:
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On August 12 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:45 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone?

What is scummy about it?

Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place.

I think they are both town

And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet

Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread?

Because he's stupid I guess

The dude is allowed to PM you guys? Why are you not cooperating?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:03 GMT
#1898
On August 12 2013 01:58 iamperfection wrote:
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On August 12 2013 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:45 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone?

What is scummy about it?

Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place.

I think they are both town

And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet

Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread?

Because he's stupid I guess

The dude is allowed to PM you guys? Why are you not cooperating?

What do you mean?

Like, if i was you i would have done this:

"Hey Xatalos & Grackaroni. I am now gonna use a HP check on our house because of X. When i get the results i will tell them to you because i am quite sure you guys are town. This is how we proceed. Do not out the results whatever it is when we three are all alive. If strange things start happening with night KP, we can deduce that someone from our house could be in fact mafia."

Now with the check outed, if strage things start happening, it points towards all of the players! Congratulations Grackaroni!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:06 GMT
#1900
On August 12 2013 02:03 Chromatically wrote:
rayn why did you believe Onegu's claim so easily?

Why do you think i believe it? I want to hear from the mysterious guy X first. I said "all my suspects claimed blue" i did not say i believed them all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:09 GMT
#1905
On August 12 2013 02:07 Onegu wrote:
@rayne what are your thoughts on SnB, as a lord did anything in his PMs stick out to you?

I think SnB is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:11 GMT
#1906
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:13 GMT
#1907
On August 12 2013 02:09 Chromatically wrote:
When asked who your other scumreads were:
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On August 12 2013 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don´t think yamato is town, and all my scumreads basically claimed blue..

implying that Onegu is no longer a scumread, right?

What´s the point of telling a list of names when i am pretty sure yamato is scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:21 GMT
#1911
On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
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On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.

Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:23 GMT
#1913
On August 12 2013 02:19 Chromatically wrote:
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On August 12 2013 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:09 Chromatically wrote:
When asked who your other scumreads were:
On August 12 2013 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don´t think yamato is town, and all my scumreads basically claimed blue..

implying that Onegu is no longer a scumread, right?

What´s the point of telling a list of names when i am pretty sure yamato is scum?

I don't care that you didn't give a list of names, you could have just said "my other scumreads don't matter right now because yamato". You saying "all my scumreads claimed blue" implies that they are no longer your scumreads.

I thouhgt i was being pretty clear. I said "pretty much all my scumreads claimed blue", then i said "besides johnnywup", then i said "we are gonna kill yamato now". I do not know what conclusion you draw from that other than what you just said i "should have done".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:32 GMT
#1915
ehh.. Oats sais "if you think yamato is town, you must want to kill someone else".
I replied "i do not think yamato is town, i don´t want to kill the blue claims right now".

Correct?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:33 GMT
#1916
But you are right that Oberyn is really likely town, so is Sharrant. Onegu is aswell, to some extent.
What are you trying to say?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:35 GMT
#1918
On August 12 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.

Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do?


Please rayn, I beg you, stop. Here, let me help you and quote the relevant posts.

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On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...

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On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway

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On August 11 2013 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway



Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference

you're right that was stupid.


Thanks for wasting 10 posts on this subject though. DRAW A CONCLUSION OR STFU

Here is your conclusion. iamperfection and Grackaroni are doing incredibly stupid stuff if they are town.
They are not working together in their house.
When they are being called out from their stupid stuff they say "my bad, it was dumb".

WHY THE FUCK DO TOWNIES DO STUPID STUFF WITHOUT THINKING FOR 5 MINUTES?
Right, for no reason..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:44 GMT
#1928
On August 12 2013 02:38 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.

Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do?


Please rayn, I beg you, stop. Here, let me help you and quote the relevant posts.

On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...

On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway

On August 11 2013 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway



Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference

you're right that was stupid.


Thanks for wasting 10 posts on this subject though. DRAW A CONCLUSION OR STFU

Here is your conclusion. iamperfection and Grackaroni are doing incredibly stupid stuff if they are town.
They are not working together in their house.
When they are being called out from their stupid stuff they say "my bad, it was dumb".

WHY THE FUCK DO TOWNIES DO STUPID STUFF WITHOUT THINKING FOR 5 MINUTES?
Right, for no reason..


Jesus christ. What possible Blackfyre motivated reason is there to blab that shit in public? If Grackaroni is a Blackfyre he already has the information, so it is by definition not indicative of whether he is a pretender or not.

This really says NOTHING about whether or not Grackaroni is a Blackfyre.

This is scum motivation:
Mafia wants to know how much HP people have much more than town. If iamp uses the check he basically has to tell his house members he is gonna use it, other wise he could get caught (if let´s say Xatalos becomes a lord and uses the check). When he tells the results, Grackaroni outs the results in thread "because dumb". If Grackaroni did not do that, and strange things start to happen with night KP, this points to Xatalos/iamp/Grackaroni. Now, when Grackaroni did out the check, if strange things start to happen it points to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON IN THE GAME!
Magic!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:46 GMT
#1930
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:54 GMT
#1937
On August 12 2013 02:49 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:38 Acrofales wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.

Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do?


Please rayn, I beg you, stop. Here, let me help you and quote the relevant posts.

On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...

On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway

On August 11 2013 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway



Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference

you're right that was stupid.


Thanks for wasting 10 posts on this subject though. DRAW A CONCLUSION OR STFU

Here is your conclusion. iamperfection and Grackaroni are doing incredibly stupid stuff if they are town.
They are not working together in their house.
When they are being called out from their stupid stuff they say "my bad, it was dumb".

WHY THE FUCK DO TOWNIES DO STUPID STUFF WITHOUT THINKING FOR 5 MINUTES?
Right, for no reason..


Jesus christ. What possible Blackfyre motivated reason is there to blab that shit in public? If Grackaroni is a Blackfyre he already has the information, so it is by definition not indicative of whether he is a pretender or not.

This really says NOTHING about whether or not Grackaroni is a Blackfyre.

This is scum motivation:
Mafia wants to know how much HP people have much more than town. If iamp uses the check he basically has to tell his house members he is gonna use it, other wise he could get caught (if let´s say Xatalos becomes a lord and uses the check). When he tells the results, Grackaroni outs the results in thread "because dumb". If Grackaroni did not do that, and strange things start to happen with night KP, this points to Xatalos/iamp/Grackaroni. Now, when Grackaroni did out the check, if strange things start to happen it points to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON IN THE GAME!
Magic!

so do you think one of us is scum or not? Otherwise i see no point to this conversation.

and your wrong we still don't know what the starting hp is of the other houses and we don't know if they are the same in every house. Also we don't know if our house starting hp was truly 7 it is an educated guess but nothing is confirmed.

How is it possible that your house´s starting HP was not 7? Why do you even assume so as the check reveals that gumshoe was at 1 HP, which confirms that all the lords shot him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:55 GMT
#1938
On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?


Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad"

You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost.
I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum.

The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing?

I think one of them is scum, yes. I think Grackaroni is the most likeliest of them to be scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 18:04 GMT
#1942
What is your conclusion Clarity? Do you think someone in that house is mafia? Why / why not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 18:08 GMT
#1945
On August 12 2013 03:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is your conclusion Clarity? Do you think someone in that house is mafia? Why / why not?


Read the thread. I've been over this. Extensively.

Yeah you have said you think at least one of those guys are mafia. Now you are brushing this under the carpet. Why? Why don´t you want to figure out which one of those 3 is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 18:09 GMT
#1946
And why are you afraid to tell us which one of those three is mafia most likely and why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 20:35 GMT
#2026
What about SnB? The only thing i remember him doing was the bullshit info-hide with Clarity and Oats, and i think those two are town. Has he really been as active in PM´s as he claims? I have ~5 PM´s from him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 20:52 GMT
#2036
I didn´t think about this earlier, but after rereading my stuff with SnB it was really weird. He started the PM´s asking me if my suspicion on "this 'ft' guy has weakened". The PM looked somewhat roleplay, so i thought he was RPing. Apparently he wasn't. Is there anyone else who didn't figure out who i was talking about in my post (apparently Risen was lol)?
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