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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 17:10 GMT
#1231
On August 10 2013 02:07 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:48 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:35 s0Lstice wrote:
go ahead and tell me what you think of johnnywup claiming a town name to Acro in PMs without prompting while you're at it Rayn.

What do you mean by town name?

Also how am i wrong on you? That´s exactly what i read from your post.


From what acro says, he claimed his role name because he thought it would look townie I.e. he has a town name. Why does he do that as scum? Or better, is it likely he does that as scum?

In regards to your paragraph on me, I never said dandel would do good things with the lordship as town. He was talking about shooting kush with our kp, and I argued that it should be used on a scumread if possible. I said I would do better. I have also said I am thinking dandel is town in the thread during this clusterfuck. I said it in pms too, my other house members will verify.

It´s not alignment indicative as the role names are not alignment indicative. What if he is mafia and some role name that´s "town" in the lore and decided to claim it to look town? It´s all WIFOM and there is nothing alignment indicative in his claim. Or if there is, feel free to tell me why that claim could possibly not come from mafia.

Fair enough. I was wrong in the "good things" part. I assumed you meant that when you said you would elect Dandel when you are 100% sure he is town. Why would you then elect someone who STILL does not do good things over yourself? I know you have said you think Dandel is town, are you 100% sure he is? Because from what i read from your post you would be if he was the lord now.


Yes role names are not alignment indicative. I wasn't saying they were. The point is johnny thought they were, otherwise why claim it at all? As scum, claim role name to appear town. As town, claim role name to appear town. Now which of these is more likely with the way it went down. 'Sup veteran Lord candidate, I'm X.' Does he do this as scum?

Why is it impossible he would not do that as scum? Iam saying he could do that regardless of his alignment. If you are going to defend him by your argument you need to tell me why it´s impossible he would not do that as mafia. I just told you why he would do that as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 17:15 GMT
#1239
Keep on guys, this is funny to watch. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 17:29 GMT
#1252
On August 10 2013 02:24 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:07 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:48 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:35 s0Lstice wrote:
go ahead and tell me what you think of johnnywup claiming a town name to Acro in PMs without prompting while you're at it Rayn.

What do you mean by town name?

Also how am i wrong on you? That´s exactly what i read from your post.


From what acro says, he claimed his role name because he thought it would look townie I.e. he has a town name. Why does he do that as scum? Or better, is it likely he does that as scum?

In regards to your paragraph on me, I never said dandel would do good things with the lordship as town. He was talking about shooting kush with our kp, and I argued that it should be used on a scumread if possible. I said I would do better. I have also said I am thinking dandel is town in the thread during this clusterfuck. I said it in pms too, my other house members will verify.

It´s not alignment indicative as the role names are not alignment indicative. What if he is mafia and some role name that´s "town" in the lore and decided to claim it to look town? It´s all WIFOM and there is nothing alignment indicative in his claim. Or if there is, feel free to tell me why that claim could possibly not come from mafia.

Fair enough. I was wrong in the "good things" part. I assumed you meant that when you said you would elect Dandel when you are 100% sure he is town. Why would you then elect someone who STILL does not do good things over yourself? I know you have said you think Dandel is town, are you 100% sure he is? Because from what i read from your post you would be if he was the lord now.


Yes role names are not alignment indicative. I wasn't saying they were. The point is johnny thought they were, otherwise why claim it at all? As scum, claim role name to appear town. As town, claim role name to appear town. Now which of these is more likely with the way it went down. 'Sup veteran Lord candidate, I'm X.' Does he do this as scum?

Why is it impossible he would not do that as scum? Iam saying he could do that regardless of his alignment. If you are going to defend him by your argument you need to tell me why it´s impossible he would not do that as mafia. I just told you why he would do that as mafia.


Possible/impossible is the wrong dichotomy. You should be interested in likely/unlikely. Is it possible johnny does it as scum? Yea I guess. Likely? I say no

Tell me why he claims like that so early. It's really ballsy, careless, and got him in some pretty hot water from what it sounds like. Tell me why this is more likely than him just being derpy and thinking 'oh this guy was a good guy, i'll tell my house and they'll think I'm a good guy because I totes am.'

rofl, i have never said i think johnnywup is scummy because of his claim. Why are you trying to imply so? Or what do you mean with "got him in some pretty hot water from what it sounds like"??

If you are familiar with the lore, got a mafia role whose name was someone good in the show, why the fuck would you not claim your role name? There is no harm.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 17:30 GMT
#1253
On August 10 2013 02:27 s0Lstice wrote:
Rayn, can you also tell me how your PM's with Chrom are going?

I have not PM´d with Chrom since yesterday. We talked about DI/Koshi stuff. Nothing much more.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 17:52 GMT
#1265
On August 10 2013 02:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you posting that more than 48 hours until we have to vote Oberyn?
Seems like useless fluff to me.


Pretty sure we vote for lord during n1, OP states every night.
Btw the OP also states lords are lords for the following day AND nightcycle. Who was it that said lords cant pm eachother during the night?

I said that, it´s in OP.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 17:53 GMT
#1268
-All Lords can pm each other while they are currently a Lord, but only during the day cycle.


Sharrant answer my questions please?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 17:54 GMT
#1270
On August 10 2013 02:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why are you posting that more than 48 hours until we have to vote Oberyn?
Seems like useless fluff to me.


Pretty sure we vote for lord during n1, OP states every night.
Btw the OP also states lords are lords for the following day AND nightcycle. Who was it that said lords cant pm eachother during the night?

I said that, it´s in OP.

doesnt night 1 end in like 2 days?

in ~36 hours, Nights are silent!!! Only house PM´s are allowed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 17:56 GMT
#1273
Sharrant i wouls like to do a little exercise with you.

It includes me using our house KP on you, unless you start telling who you think is mafia soon and please answer me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 17:58 GMT
#1276
Solstice are you really saying johnnywup is town because he claimed his rolename?
Is this like... a ...... TOWNSLIP!?!?
What about the other stuff i brought up?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:00 GMT
#1278
On August 10 2013 02:58 Dandel Ion wrote:
The RNG gods told me jrkirby is the best lynch today.

Once the RNG gods told me, I realized that he's a decent lynch too.
And since people are somehow against my plan of carpet-bombing everything in House Baratheon (and my secondary proposal; carpet-bombing House Tyrell is like to fare no better) I would propose lynching jrkirby.

I could lynch jrkirby if people are not willing to lynch who i have proposed. What do you think about my targets and what i said about them?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:02 GMT
#1282
On August 10 2013 03:00 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sharrant i wouls like to do a little exercise with you.

It includes me using our house KP on you, unless you start telling who you think is mafia soon and please answer me.


Are we going to do this again? When I have a scum read I'm confident enough in to share, you'll hear about. You can threaten all you want, but I don't care, you can't rush me.

It´s been over 36 hours into the game and you have (apparently?) been active in PM´s. I find it hard to believe you don´t have any scumreads, and you are only willing to discuss your town reads atm. But i´ll wait.

When did i twist someone´s words in this game as you said in your post?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:03 GMT
#1284
Dandel talk to me about my lynch targets. Also what makes jrkirby the best lynch?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:06 GMT
#1292
On August 10 2013 03:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:58 Dandel Ion wrote:
The RNG gods told me jrkirby is the best lynch today.

Once the RNG gods told me, I realized that he's a decent lynch too.
And since people are somehow against my plan of carpet-bombing everything in House Baratheon (and my secondary proposal; carpet-bombing House Tyrell is like to fare no better) I would propose lynching jrkirby.

I could lynch jrkirby if people are not willing to lynch who i have proposed. What do you think about my targets and what i said about them?

dunno, like, somebody was gonna (have to) make a house list at some point, not really seeing how that means he's scum just because it's a list.

It´s not the list in itself. It´s that he didn´t even put effort to the list (not realizing Vivax/Gumshoe houses were clear if you think about what you read).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:09 GMT
#1299
Now that the experiment is apparently over, Sharrant, can you finally tell me where have i twisted anyone´s words in this game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:11 GMT
#1300
On August 10 2013 03:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, we need to start deciding stuff soon.

iamp, i am okay with your proposed shot. Lord KP should be used to vig lurkers, at least on N1.
How many of the lords do we want to vig a single target? 2? more? For me 2 seems fine.

As for lynch targets, so far i think:

Solstice - I called his thought process fishy earlier. This is what i meant. Solstice does not want Dandel to be a lord. He says, when Dandel is town, he probably does good stuff as a lord. When he is scum, he will most likely out himself. Then he doesn´t want to elect Dandel, because he can´t be sure if he is town. I don´t like that, at all. By Solstice´s thinking, he should definitely elect Dandel and noone else. It will give him a near 100% read on Dandel, as he himself said. Why does he not want to immediately figure out Dandel´s alignment? Later on he says that "Dandel will out him either way". Has he? I see no mention of Dandel´s alignment by Solstice after that.

johnnywup - There are two things why i think johnnywup is mafia. The first one is his overly defensive stance on his 3p thing. When being questioned about that in thread, his first comment is "other people did not find that scummy". That´s really going overboard if you are town, why would you be more interested to tell people that other people did not find you scummy rather than if they thought you were right or wrong and how did you end up in the conclusion? Another thing that stands out is johnnywup´s house member list. In itself list posts are bad, but this is worse. He hasn´t even put a single bit off thought into the lise (notice him not realizing in which house Vivax/Gumshoe are). Scummy as fuck.

Onegu - Onegu has not done anything. Lika anything at all. If you look at his posts he is entering rendom discussions for what? To have nothing to say. Look at when he tells he has already given his thoughts about Solstice & Clarity. His conclusion on Solstice is "we need to hear from him". Right. On Clarity he redacted from his town read because he was not willing find out about role names. So his whole discussion & conclusion is worthless. Now he is trying to figure out FirmTofu. Nothing on that front. scum.

Vigi list:

Sharrant
gumshoe
yamato77
jrkirby
Nachomamma8
kushm4sta

For the record, noone in my house has had any contact with me on D1. I have been PMing the other lords all the time i have been online, and i would expect if they have something to ask, they will. I am not going to try to do everything and i have had pretty much nothing to say to them. So FT/Risen/nachodude if you got something to ask or something you want to discuss feel free to PM me.

Vivax, when i asked you about my scumreads, why didn´t you answer me and asked me about someone else instead?


Didn't read them at the time. I just read you and noticed that you called s0lstice fishy earlier but then only mentioned those three guys, then you said it's cause they're scummier. Thought it was obvious already why I asked it?

Is Sharrant still on your vigi list or do you have something more to go with at this point than just considering him as a policy lynch?

I asked you about my scumreads and you didn´t answer me. Instead you asked me about solstice. The question is fair from you, i am wanting to find out why did you not want to talk to me about my reads i asked you about?

I am trying to figure more out from Sharrant atm. I don´t know where he belongs atm.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:16 GMT
#1308
On August 10 2013 03:14 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now that the experiment is apparently over, Sharrant, can you finally tell me where have i twisted anyone´s words in this game?


Your conversation with Acrofales. At least at a glance it felt exactly like what happened when we played last. You saying Acrofales was going to use the house health check, seems very much like that. I don't think Acrofales has ever had any intention of using the house health check.

Perhaps using "twisting" was the wrong word. I know the problem we had was a lot of misunderstandings. For this to come up in another game doesn't surprise me with anothe rplayer does not surprise me.

If you are serious with the bolded part you have clearly not read the thread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:17 GMT
#1309
lol, os aCrofales has TOLD you Sharrant that he is intending to use the HP check?!?!?!

wtf are you doing man?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:20 GMT
#1312
Okay, i gotta go for couple of hours. I´ll be back.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:58 GMT
#1323
I am somewhat back.
Oberyn, why are you so obsessed with Dandel?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 09 2013 18:59 GMT
#1324
Risen what did you talk about with nacho in PM´s?
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