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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 10 2013 04:37 GMT
#1595
On August 10 2013 13:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 13:32 Onegu wrote:
On August 10 2013 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
On August 10 2013 13:13 Onegu wrote:
Sorry why are lords makeing time slots?

for murder and mayhem


No but for reals why? Just because youare lords doesnt mean youshould keep us out of the loop

im not joking its for kp



So what happens is someone you guys choose dies I hope you have a list of six and dont deviate from it.
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Onegu
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August 10 2013 04:39 GMT
#1596
On August 10 2013 13:35 FirmTofu wrote:
1) You are lynching me based on my activity. I have great potential to be useful in the coming days, whereas there are plenty of people in this town that will continue being useless.
2) Acro is a far better lynch today. I don't know where the votes stand right now, but Acro has been scummy all game. If I had to redirect my lynch to any one person, it'd be him.



#1 My arguement as scum my first ever scum game, guys Im more likely to find scum, then you go and point out someone who has been active in part 2.
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Onegu
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August 10 2013 04:51 GMT
#1615
Becareful electing the same lord over and over as there is no way to know if they used the hp check. So if you elected scum as lord and he used the check you wont know he used it.
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Onegu
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United States9695 Posts
August 10 2013 21:45 GMT
#1633
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August 11 2013 05:11 GMT
#1642
Oberyn shot gumshoe. He was suprised he wasnt dead when it was his turn.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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August 11 2013 05:13 GMT
#1643
If I die can you paraphrase this into the thread.Onegu's Death PostFirst hold the lords more accountable, they are PMing each other more than they are posting in the actual thread, this does a few things. First it doesnt let the rest of us get complete reads on them. When we dont know what is going on behind closed doors we cant make complete reads. I am fine with them PM each other about useing KP and HP checks but when all they are doing is comparing reads and makeing cases those things should be done in thread. A few examples of this, first raynes case on me has alot to do with my thoughts on the HP check, the only way he gets these details is through oberyn. Those details about my thoughts for the HP check were never posted in thread, so when one of the main reasons for me being scum was never posted in the thread something is wrong. SnB has just over one page of filter but admits to well over 100 PM, his reason for voteing me was because I didnt scum hunt when the pressure was taken off of me. If he readthe threadhe would know I went to the hospital. Also looking through raynes filter and his case on me it talks about me wanting to share the hp info with all. First this isnt true, my stance was the lord should share with only his biggest town read right before deadline as to not lose and waste the info. The only way rayne knows this would be through oberyn, but oberyn only mentions me once in his filter.Ok going down the player listOats, I dont see much scummy play from him, what I see is about the same as the other games I have seen him play as town.DI, out of the interactions in his house I think he looks the least scummy, I didnt like his post about stop talking though.Sharr, lurks tunnels kush, then suggests houses split their shots up. No read.Iamp, house lord, hard to read for me, one thing though he says oberyn would be against a lynch on me.Xata, really like his posts, wouldnt mind him being a lord. TownyOberyn, I have him as town for now but he needs to be more transparant in threadS0l, slightly scummy with what went on in house then a bunch of lurking, as I feel chrome is town it makes sol look worseVivax, out of all the lurkers I think his posts have the most substance. Slightly townieChrome, needs to post more in forum, town read, seems like he was almost forced into lordshipClarity, I felt he was town for a while, one of my PMs to oberyn was he was town when discussing what happened with SnBGumshoe, lurker doesnt read or follow threadYamato, even though we havent talked very much and he lurks alot in thread, some of his thoughts gave me town feel to him.Grack, lurker slifhtly scummy feeling, makes a post he is suspicious of jrkirby and it is hard to get a read off of our house because we dont talk to each other, how does he know we dont talk to each other much?Rayne, has tunneled me, but is the most active lord in thread which I actually find townie, I would like to know why he tunneled me since my first post though.Firm, deadKoshi, my biggest scum read, check my filter for caseJohnny, lurks, talks about 3p alot, nullJrkirby, lurks alot, if I had to choose a scum read in our house would be him.SnB. Scum. Doesnt read the thread much but pms alot and gives very little info reguarding his reads. Also what went on in house with him and clarity seems like SnB had some plan going on with his claim and it was messed up.Nacho, lurker, nullAcro, not sure what to make of him, will note firm was suspicious of him, he roleplays which makes it difficult to get a good read, another reason lords should be more open in thread so we can get a better read on acro.Kush, crazy lurker posting about policy lynch and other randomness kinda scummyRisen, some crazy reads, some I completely disagree with and some I agree with, slightly town
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 05:14 GMT
#1645
Oh wow that didnt work editing


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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
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August 11 2013 05:16 GMT
#1647
Onegu's Death Post

First hold the lords more accountable, they are PMing each other more than they are posting in the actual thread, this does a few things. First it doesnt let the rest of us get complete reads on them. When we dont know what is going on behind closed doors we cant make complete reads. I am fine with them PM each other about useing KP and HP checks but when all they are doing is comparing reads and makeing cases those things should be done in thread. A few examples of this, first raynes case on me has alot to do with my thoughts on the HP check, the only way he gets these details is through oberyn. Those details about my thoughts for the HP check were never posted in thread, so when one of the main reasons for me being scum was never posted in the thread something is wrong. SnB has just over one page of filter but admits to well over 100 PM, his reason for voteing me was because I didnt scum hunt when the pressure was taken off of me. If he readthe threadhe would know I went to the hospital. Also looking through raynes filter and his case on me it talks about me wanting to share the hp info with all. First this isnt true, my stance was the lord should share with only his biggest town read right before deadline as to not lose and waste the info. The only way rayne knows this would be through oberyn, but oberyn only mentions me once in his filter.


Ok going down the player list

Oats, I dont see much scummy play from him, what I see is about the same as the other games I have seen him play as town.

DI, out of the interactions in his house I think he looks the least scummy, I didnt like his post about stop talking though.

Sharr, lurks tunnels kush, then suggests houses split their shots up. No read.

Iamp, house lord, hard to read for me, one thing though he says oberyn would be against a lynch on me.

Xata, really like his posts, wouldnt mind him being a lord. Towny

Oberyn, I have him as town for now but he needs to be more transparant in thread

S0l, slightly scummy with what went on in house then a bunch of lurking, as I feel chrome is town it makes sol look worse


Vivax, out of all the lurkers I think his posts have the most substance. Slightly townie


Chrome, needs to post more in forum, town read, seems like he was almost forced into lordship


Clarity, I felt he was town for a while, one of my PMs to oberyn was he was town when discussing what happened with SnB

Gumshoe, lurker doesnt read or follow thread


Yamato, even though we havent talked very much and he lurks alot in thread, some of his thoughts gave me town feel to him.


Grack, lurker slifhtly scummy feeling, makes a post he is suspicious of jrkirby and it is hard to get a read off of our house because we dont talk to each other, how does he know we dont talk to each other much?

Rayne, has tunneled me, but is the most active lord in thread which I actually find townie, I would like to know why he tunneled me since my first post though.

Firm, dead


Koshi, my biggest scum read, check my filter for case


Johnny, lurks, talks about 3p alot, null


Jrkirby, lurks alot, if I had to choose a scum read in our house would be him.


SnB. Scum. Doesnt read the thread much but pms alot and gives very little info reguarding his reads. Also what went on in house with him and clarity seems like SnB had some plan going on with his claim and it was messed up.

Nacho, lurker, null

Acro, not sure what to make of him, will note firm was suspicious of him, he roleplays which makes it difficult to get a good read, another reason lords should be more open in thread so we can get a better read on acro.

Kush, crazy lurker posting about policy lynch and other randomness kinda scummy


Risen, some crazy reads, some I completely disagree with and some I agree with, slightly town



This is my reads in case I was shot also my thoughts.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 05:19 GMT
#1650
Lords scum hunt in thread not PMs, confer in private on kills and hp checks, reads and scum hunting should be done in thread.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 05:21 GMT
#1651
Oberyn has told me hosts confirm house kp shots should make them flip instantly, this is very odd gumshoe flips at the end of the night.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 05:24 GMT
#1653
@chrome did no one put themselves up for lord? Or did everyone and it just came to you again?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 05:26 GMT
#1655
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 05:29 GMT
#1658
On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
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On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway



Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 05:46 GMT
#1668
On August 11 2013 14:42 Grackaroni wrote:
to be fair if there's any scum in the lords they already knew that the kp direct at gumshoe had to be > 6 so hopefully it shouldn't cause too enormous of an impact.



Or a protective role was on him, or he was immune to house kp, closed setup means no they couldnt be sure.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 07:33 GMT
#1697
I see no reason not to claim since my ability is 1-shot anyways. I'm a medic that chose to protect Xatalos last night. Whoever was the other person must be the roleblocker
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 08:17 GMT
#1709
I am guessing not house action. I would guess a scum and a town RB. I havent heard anything about house powers other than th HP check and the House KP.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 10:12 GMT
#1758
On August 11 2013 19:04 Xatalos wrote:
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On August 11 2013 19:01 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 18:54 Xatalos wrote:
Here is my Onegu reasoning if you're wondering:

Okay, so: I suggest you go to Nuclear Winter Mafia and open Onegu's filter (he was town). I think there are similarities here (somewhat lacking activity level, somewhat passive behaviour etc.). There are also some posts like this that make me believe he's town: "This is every jrkirby game, check out bluelightz for the most recent example, he is lynch bait in every game." Seems like an honest and spontaneous opinion that doesn't fit with a Mafia mindset.

It feels like he's a bit less aggressive and more "protective" (giving townreads etc.) so it's not all the same. Do you think he's playing to his town meta? I think it's pretty close but there could be a small difference... Maybe that means he's scum this time around. But I'd still lean on town for now.

TLDR: probably town

What's the point of using meta if you don't look at scum games too?


I've never played with scum Onegu but you're right, that would be useful (although less than actually playing with him). I'll probably do that soonish. For now I mostly want to know the mystery player though. If he's scum, Onegu is also 100% clean.



NMM XLII, NMM XLIII, and bluelightz are my scum games, NWM and NMM XLIV are town. Also can the Lords give me some thoughts on SnB his claim to have well over 100 PMs, but such a small filter with his vote and reason on me were so scummy.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 10:30 GMT
#1765
@ Oats I am not a lord myself, but since he was talking to them mostly not the thread I asked
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 12:46 GMT
#1791
On August 11 2013 21:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like, could you stop roleplaying and just say "red check" if that's the case?
Let me sum up the 5 pages of d2:
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On August 11 2013 20:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Anyway...

let me just put it in one post to make it easier.

xata claims roleblocked
oberyn claims watcher and says he targeted xata, 2 visitors. He hasn't told us who, though.
onegu claims 1 shot medic on xata

Easy conclusion: xata lied about the roleblock or onegu is lying about the 1shot medic or the 2nd person who targeted xata is the roleblocker.

xata looks pretty town, no reason for him to lie and no reason for a town roleblocker to target him
Therefore either Onegu or the second person is scum

With how quickly onegu claimed 1shot medic I doubt he's scum trying to get a townie lynched before he dies.
Therefore whoever is left is scum. Oberyn if you did not fakeclaim you should just tell us who it is so we can lynch him




The swill they have for wine in highgarden addles the brain I have heard from a Maester, you will have to excuse him.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
August 11 2013 12:50 GMT
#1794
On August 11 2013 21:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On August 11 2013 21:40 Acrofales wrote:
First things first. I haven't read the minutes for the start of today's meeting yet, but I received some important information that I was asked to pass on to the other lords. It seems it is actually pertinent to everybody here. One of my vassals has a network of little birds, who have uncovered that Yamato is a Blackfyre pretender. I trust him and I trust his abilities.

##vote Yamato

So why do you have to claim the red check. Why cant Sharrant claim it?



If it is sharrant I thought it was smart on his part, make the house lord make the claim then you are protected from being night killed as cop, until someone says who the cop is in thread...
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