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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 19:33 GMT
#866
Quote me please Acrofales. Where ever i give an opinion on Grack?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 19:42 GMT
#868
On August 09 2013 04:36 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Quote me please Acrofales. Where ever i give an opinion on Grack?

Nowhere? Stags, Krakens, Lions, it's all the same to me. I'm here to catch Dragon pretenders.

Then what do you mean by this:
On August 09 2013 04:22 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Acrofales do you think Grackaroni is mafia?

All I know about Grackaroni is what you have told me, which is not conclusive at all. How am I to form an opinion without more information about your internal bickerings over there on those godforsaken isles?

?????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 20:02 GMT
#874
On August 09 2013 04:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
rayn are you going to be like this all game? He made a mistake, obviously.

Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:29 Acrofales wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:25 iamperfection wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:22 Acrofales wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Acrofales do you think Grackaroni is mafia?

All I know about Grackaroni is what you have told me, which is not conclusive at all. How am I to form an opinion without more information about your internal bickerings over there on those godforsaken isles?

wat grack is in my house?

Err, wait. Grack was the black lion, not the black kraken.

I still have not much opinion. His explanation of his behaviour to us seems quite okay, but he hasn't done much other than announce who are his family members. I still don't have much of an opinion of him one way or another. He seems to have some thoughts, which is okay, I guess, but nothing particularly useful.


Please stop doing this unless you're going to come to a conclusion. Otherwise just correct him instead of filling a whole page with this crap.

I´m sorry, that was not obvious to me because of the RP.
You did not answer me btw. What do you think of FT & Onegu?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 21:11 GMT
#897
On August 09 2013 05:57 johnnywup wrote:
i don't have any extra information and its the first thing that came to mind for a 3p wincon in a themed setup like this. robert barath trying to kill targs is like pretty big in lore so it came to mind pretty quickly. I posted the exact same thought in a PM to my housemates and none seemed to think it was scummy.

So you were more worried about if they did find it scummy that if they did find it true/false?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 21:11 GMT
#898
Yeah Solstice´s logic is really fishy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 21:17 GMT
#902
On August 09 2013 06:12 johnnywup wrote:
i dunno what you mean in the 2nd half of that sentence but i wasnt worried whether or not they thought it was scummy, i'm just pointing out he's like the only one that's responded to that that thinks its scummy

If i was to ask that question you did from my housemates, i would be more interested in if they think it´s true/false.

However, when you point that out in thread (that you have discussed it) your conclusion is "they did not think it was scummy", rather than "they thought i was right/wrong".

You are being overly defensive for no reason, why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 21:26 GMT
#904
On a sidenote. One of the houses is seriously considering using a HP chack this phase.

HP check this early on helps mafia more than it does help town. Mafia is in control of KP (besides house lords), if we reveal some house HP, mafia can direct their KP more accurately. As this is a KP/HP game i assume at least most of the people have more than 1 HP, and mafia has > 1 KP, probably even > 2 KP.

I will use all my power to kill you all if you do that, you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 21:28 GMT
#905
On August 09 2013 06:20 johnnywup wrote:
sharrant said that he liked that I was considering the possibility of roles that go after specific houses. no one said whether or not they thought that it was true or false.

if anyone thinks its right or wrong then they have additional information. i was just considering the possibility. even i never really thought it was completely true, i was just considering it for the sake of argument that we don't want to give any information away to scum that they didn't already have.

i don't like being accused of being scum loll

So you thought that idea was good (obviously?), but did not really want to know more if people other than Sharrant thought you were right or wrong? If i have an idea i am usually really interested in knowing if my idea is good/bad, who supports it/who doesn´t etc.

You just dropped the issue?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 21:35 GMT
#909
On August 09 2013 06:30 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote. One of the houses is seriously considering using a HP chack this phase.

HP check this early on helps mafia more than it does help town. Mafia is in control of KP (besides house lords), if we reveal some house HP, mafia can direct their KP more accurately. As this is a KP/HP game i assume at least most of the people have more than 1 HP, and mafia has > 1 KP, probably even > 2 KP.

I will use all my power to kill you all if you do that, you are scum.

Are you talking about me? Because then I urge you to reread the missive I sent you.

Yes i am talking about you. You told me that it gives us better information on how to use our Lord KP. I disagree with that. We shoot the scummiest guy (if there are 2 before the end of D1) all, 6 KP is definitely enough to kill someone (i assume everyone other lords than iamp + me has 1 KP aswell?), and i would not gamble on shooting more than 1 people on N1.

What do you gain if you get info that in house X people have 1,2,2,3 HP, what if the HP is 10,10,21,5?
Explain please?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 21:40 GMT
#912
Completely unnecessary post by jrkirbby...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 21:51 GMT
#920
On August 09 2013 06:44 Acrofales wrote:
I am not going to paraphrase my own missive, because that's just plain stupid, but what I don't get how you go from discussing the best use of our magics to "HOUSE TYRELL IS THREATENING TO USE THEM".

Are you upset because I am unwilling to disclose with you the way the Red Viper, Sharrant and myself came up with a way of potentially foiling a Blackfyre plot by using our life check magic? Well, that's unfortunate, because now I am DEFINITELY not telling you, because I am increasingly suspicious of you and your way of twisting and misrepresenting my words.

I do not want to discuss our "magic" usage because that does not help us find mafia.
If you tell me how does that help us find mafia right now to check any of the houses HP´s, i´m all ears.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 21:55 GMT
#924
On August 09 2013 06:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why is this conversation happening in the thread as opposed to pms?

#Trafficcop

If you mean me & Acro, it already happened in PM´s..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 22:07 GMT
#928
I read that as you think i am mafia? Why? Because i opposed your HP check and you did not give me anything why it´s gonna be beneficial to town? Seems legit!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 22:22 GMT
#931
Hey Vivax!

What do you think of Onegu, FT, Acrofales and johnnywup?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 22:26 GMT
#934
On August 09 2013 07:22 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I read that as you think i am mafia? Why? Because i opposed your HP check and you did not give me anything why it´s gonna be beneficial to town? Seems legit!

No. I am suspicious of you, because you keep twisting my words around. Now stop mincing words, I have said three times now why I don't trust you, and the more you continue to misrepresent what I say, the less I trust you.


You clearly said:
1) you want to use the HP check NOW (i read that as D1)
2) when i opposed that, you did not give me reasons why it´s beneficial to use that now.

How am i twisting your words?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 22:41 GMT
#936
On August 09 2013 07:38 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 09 2013 07:22 Acrofales wrote:
On August 09 2013 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I read that as you think i am mafia? Why? Because i opposed your HP check and you did not give me anything why it´s gonna be beneficial to town? Seems legit!

No. I am suspicious of you, because you keep twisting my words around. Now stop mincing words, I have said three times now why I don't trust you, and the more you continue to misrepresent what I say, the less I trust you.


You clearly said:
1) you want to use the HP check NOW (i read that as D1)
2) when i opposed that, you did not give me reasons why it´s beneficial to use that now.

How am i twisting your words?

I never said point 1. I have no clue where you got that.

Read your last PM to me, the first line and especially 11th word of the PM. How am i supposed to undertand that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 23:02 GMT
#942
On August 09 2013 07:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Vivax!

What do you think of Onegu, FT, Acrofales and johnnywup?


Why not ask me about s0lstice?I assume he is one of your scumspects?

Because those people i mentioned are more scummy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 23:05 GMT
#943
On August 09 2013 08:02 jrkirby wrote:
Yeah, this interplay between rayn and Acro is baffling me too. I really don't understand what's going on, something about rayn not wanting acro to use his HP check?

Acro said they are maybe wanting to use their houses HP check. I told him that´s anti-town for now (i also told the reasons in thread later). Acro calls me scum because i wanted to know why they wanted to use their HP check on D1. Acro said i am twisting his words (he especially said they wanted to use the HP-check now) which i am not. I asked about this in PM´s and his answer was basically "i am not talking to you".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 23:15 GMT
#946
lol, i told you to go with the plan if you want to, even without me.

As i expressed earlier, i was not gonna go with that unless i have better information about it, which you were unwilling to share.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 08 2013 23:17 GMT
#947
His response to that was that he would back down from his accusations if I told him about the plan. I don't take well to being blackmailed, and I certainly don't think blackmailing someone is a loyalist attitude. I am now convinced he is a Blackfyre infiltrant who is desperate for this information that might put a stop to their dastardly plans.

BULLSHIT! I said i was willing to RE-EVALUATE, NOT BACK DOWN!
Now who is twisting words and why?
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