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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 17 2013 15:49 GMT
#4021
I am at soccer. Can I POST?
I had a good night of sleep.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 17 2013 15:50 GMT
#4022
Lynch Risen today? In addition to everything I said yesterday, there's the Vivax association. Risen calls Vivax a scumread in PMs, but doesn't have coherent reasons for it (scum don't want to read their scumbuddies). And, he never pushes Vivax in thread and only consolidates onto the vote when the lynch is clear.


As far as Sharrant goes, what do you think about this?

So your idea is that Sharrant, before bussing his scumbuddy yamato, FAKECLAIMED cop to Acro to ask for his opinion? And he was just going to hope that Acro suggested yamato, so that way he could LIE and say he was checking kush, before actually bussing yamato???

I think this is highly unlikely if Sharrant is scum. It's a dumb move for town, but I can't see scum doing this with a town Acro. Maybe it's a big play where they're both scum, but that's just unnecessary. I also don't see why scum would invent the "HP check even days".

I agree that it's unlikely that Mocsta was framed, but I think it's less likely that Sharrant is faking all of this.

Obviously irrelevant if he flips miller.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 17 2013 15:51 GMT
#4023
Ok. Phoneposting is back available. Still at soccer. Why do you need me? I dont understand Clarity/rayn discussion. Red check is nice!
I had a good night of sleep.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 17 2013 16:00 GMT
#4024
On August 18 2013 00:13 Xatalos wrote:
This might have actually been the most pro-town action for him I guess? Saving us some KP and a lynch.

Strategic self-modkill is right up there with ubsanctuoned editing of posts on the "cheating" list.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 17 2013 16:02 GMT
#4025
On August 18 2013 00:50 Chromatically wrote:
Lynch Risen today? In addition to everything I said yesterday, there's the Vivax association. Risen calls Vivax a scumread in PMs, but doesn't have coherent reasons for it (scum don't want to read their scumbuddies). And, he never pushes Vivax in thread and only consolidates onto the vote when the lynch is clear.


As far as Sharrant goes, what do you think about this?
Show nested quote +

So your idea is that Sharrant, before bussing his scumbuddy yamato, FAKECLAIMED cop to Acro to ask for his opinion? And he was just going to hope that Acro suggested yamato, so that way he could LIE and say he was checking kush, before actually bussing yamato???

I think this is highly unlikely if Sharrant is scum. It's a dumb move for town, but I can't see scum doing this with a town Acro. Maybe it's a big play where they're both scum, but that's just unnecessary. I also don't see why scum would invent the "HP check even days".

I agree that it's unlikely that Mocsta was framed, but I think it's less likely that Sharrant is faking all of this.

Obviously irrelevant if he flips miller.


Yes, I agree that it would be pretty outrageous from a scum Sharrant and town Acro point of view. I don't think it would be that crazy if they were both scum. Scum do what they think will make them win. Anyway, I don't really love pre-flip connections.

The bolded isn't entirely true. Risen voted and said the lynch was Vivax right around when I did, and I was at the very beginning of the wagon. He didn't push it all that hard, but to say he consolidated when it was clear isn't entirely right.
ATOBTTR
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 16:04 GMT
#4026
On August 18 2013 01:00 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 00:13 Xatalos wrote:
This might have actually been the most pro-town action for him I guess? Saving us some KP and a lynch.

Strategic self-modkill is right up there with ubsanctuoned editing of posts on the "cheating" list.


That's what I said. Only clevererer
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 17 2013 16:05 GMT
#4027
If hosts modkill mocsta and remove the lynch for today can we continue the game or is it just tainted now because of him
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2013 16:05 GMT
#4028
On August 18 2013 01:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 01:00 strongandbig wrote:
On August 18 2013 00:13 Xatalos wrote:
This might have actually been the most pro-town action for him I guess? Saving us some KP and a lynch.

Strategic self-modkill is right up there with ubsanctuoned editing of posts on the "cheating" list.


That's what I said. Only clevererer


Thats what I was going to say but only more clever
Try TL Mafia!!!
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 17 2013 16:06 GMT
#4029
You do have a point chrom about the HP check thing. that's a strange lil wrinkle
ATOBTTR
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 17 2013 16:06 GMT
#4030
Cause then it's just like we lynched him
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 16:07 GMT
#4031
But I didn't wanna lynch him, I wanted to shoot him.
rayn had a good argument for not shooting him though, and lynching him instead, but now we never get that discussion

What I'm trying to say is fuck you mocsta.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 17 2013 16:07 GMT
#4032
dunno, i asked to end this game in a draw.

if that doesn't happen, I'll suggest we withhold the lord kp tonight. cuz that's what we would've used.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 17 2013 16:08 GMT
#4033
On August 18 2013 01:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
dunno, i asked to end this game in a draw.

if that doesn't happen, I'll suggest we withhold the lord kp tonight. cuz that's what we would've used.

That doesn't work cause scum might lie about The Lord KP.

And I put too much effort into not getting lunched for this game to end in a draw.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 17 2013 16:10 GMT
#4034
On August 18 2013 01:02 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 00:50 Chromatically wrote:
Lynch Risen today? In addition to everything I said yesterday, there's the Vivax association. Risen calls Vivax a scumread in PMs, but doesn't have coherent reasons for it (scum don't want to read their scumbuddies). And, he never pushes Vivax in thread and only consolidates onto the vote when the lynch is clear.


As far as Sharrant goes, what do you think about this?

So your idea is that Sharrant, before bussing his scumbuddy yamato, FAKECLAIMED cop to Acro to ask for his opinion? And he was just going to hope that Acro suggested yamato, so that way he could LIE and say he was checking kush, before actually bussing yamato???

I think this is highly unlikely if Sharrant is scum. It's a dumb move for town, but I can't see scum doing this with a town Acro. Maybe it's a big play where they're both scum, but that's just unnecessary. I also don't see why scum would invent the "HP check even days".

I agree that it's unlikely that Mocsta was framed, but I think it's less likely that Sharrant is faking all of this.

Obviously irrelevant if he flips miller.


Yes, I agree that it would be pretty outrageous from a scum Sharrant and town Acro point of view. I don't think it would be that crazy if they were both scum. Scum do what they think will make them win. Anyway, I don't really love pre-flip connections.

The bolded isn't entirely true. Risen voted and said the lynch was Vivax right around when I did, and I was at the very beginning of the wagon. He didn't push it all that hard, but to say he consolidated when it was clear isn't entirely right.

I'm not a fan of preflip connections either, but this isn't one. I don't see a reason for Sharrant to do this as scum either way, It's possible, but there's just no benefit.

That's true, I was going from memory on "lynch in the clear". The main point is that he had a large scumread on Vivax ("#1"), but he never pushed it in-thread, even when he was on the lynch. He voted SnB and Sharrant before actually voting Vivax.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 16:12 GMT
#4035
On August 18 2013 01:10 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 01:02 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 18 2013 00:50 Chromatically wrote:
Lynch Risen today? In addition to everything I said yesterday, there's the Vivax association. Risen calls Vivax a scumread in PMs, but doesn't have coherent reasons for it (scum don't want to read their scumbuddies). And, he never pushes Vivax in thread and only consolidates onto the vote when the lynch is clear.


As far as Sharrant goes, what do you think about this?

So your idea is that Sharrant, before bussing his scumbuddy yamato, FAKECLAIMED cop to Acro to ask for his opinion? And he was just going to hope that Acro suggested yamato, so that way he could LIE and say he was checking kush, before actually bussing yamato???

I think this is highly unlikely if Sharrant is scum. It's a dumb move for town, but I can't see scum doing this with a town Acro. Maybe it's a big play where they're both scum, but that's just unnecessary. I also don't see why scum would invent the "HP check even days".

I agree that it's unlikely that Mocsta was framed, but I think it's less likely that Sharrant is faking all of this.

Obviously irrelevant if he flips miller.


Yes, I agree that it would be pretty outrageous from a scum Sharrant and town Acro point of view. I don't think it would be that crazy if they were both scum. Scum do what they think will make them win. Anyway, I don't really love pre-flip connections.

The bolded isn't entirely true. Risen voted and said the lynch was Vivax right around when I did, and I was at the very beginning of the wagon. He didn't push it all that hard, but to say he consolidated when it was clear isn't entirely right.

I'm not a fan of preflip connections either, but this isn't one. I don't see a reason for Sharrant to do this as scum either way, It's possible, but there's just no benefit.

That's true, I was going from memory on "lynch in the clear". The main point is that he had a large scumread on Vivax ("#1"), but he never pushed it in-thread, even when he was on the lynch. He voted SnB and Sharrant before actually voting Vivax.


Just like vivax had no reason to claim survivor jailkeeper.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 17 2013 16:15 GMT
#4036
actually we probably can't even lynch anybody either way
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 16:15 GMT
#4037
Anyone wanna go play some pool instead of play mafia or something? Drinks are on me
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 17 2013 16:15 GMT
#4038
On August 18 2013 01:08 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 01:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
dunno, i asked to end this game in a draw.

if that doesn't happen, I'll suggest we withhold the lord kp tonight. cuz that's what we would've used.

That doesn't work cause scum might lie about The Lord KP.

And I put too much effort into not getting lunched for this game to end in a draw.

words can't express how little i care about that
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 17 2013 16:16 GMT
#4039
On August 18 2013 01:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
Anyone wanna go play some pool instead of play mafia or something? Drinks are on me

sure i'll be there soon, it's just a 10 hour drive
A backwards poet writes inverse.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 17 2013 16:20 GMT
#4040
On August 18 2013 01:10 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 01:02 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 18 2013 00:50 Chromatically wrote:
Lynch Risen today? In addition to everything I said yesterday, there's the Vivax association. Risen calls Vivax a scumread in PMs, but doesn't have coherent reasons for it (scum don't want to read their scumbuddies). And, he never pushes Vivax in thread and only consolidates onto the vote when the lynch is clear.


As far as Sharrant goes, what do you think about this?

So your idea is that Sharrant, before bussing his scumbuddy yamato, FAKECLAIMED cop to Acro to ask for his opinion? And he was just going to hope that Acro suggested yamato, so that way he could LIE and say he was checking kush, before actually bussing yamato???

I think this is highly unlikely if Sharrant is scum. It's a dumb move for town, but I can't see scum doing this with a town Acro. Maybe it's a big play where they're both scum, but that's just unnecessary. I also don't see why scum would invent the "HP check even days".

I agree that it's unlikely that Mocsta was framed, but I think it's less likely that Sharrant is faking all of this.

Obviously irrelevant if he flips miller.


Yes, I agree that it would be pretty outrageous from a scum Sharrant and town Acro point of view. I don't think it would be that crazy if they were both scum. Scum do what they think will make them win. Anyway, I don't really love pre-flip connections.

The bolded isn't entirely true. Risen voted and said the lynch was Vivax right around when I did, and I was at the very beginning of the wagon. He didn't push it all that hard, but to say he consolidated when it was clear isn't entirely right.

I'm not a fan of preflip connections either, but this isn't one. I don't see a reason for Sharrant to do this as scum either way, It's possible, but there's just no benefit.

That's true, I was going from memory on "lynch in the clear". The main point is that he had a large scumread on Vivax ("#1"), but he never pushed it in-thread, even when he was on the lynch. He voted SnB and Sharrant before actually voting Vivax.


Hmm. I do agree that it isn't the likely scenario on Sharrant. I would really feel a lot better though if I had any sort of notion that he cared about the game outside of his checks.

On Risen, I think he was super unsure. It's just like the s&b discussion earlier. His vote and his interests are all over the place, and he will be pushing multiple things in a short period of time. Really difficult to say as we would typically that this guy is scum for not pushing his #1 scum read, because what does #1 scum read really mean for Risen if it lasts all of 5 minutes?


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