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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 13:18 GMT
#3901
On August 17 2013 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 22:10 Xatalos wrote:
On August 17 2013 22:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
I rescind any and all town feelings on mocsta.
lynch or shoot, whatever, idc.


What do you think of my earlier reasoning:

Actually, the more I think about it...... I might not want to lynch into Sharrant/Mocsta today.
1) Scum can't roleblock anymore (extremely likely) so scum WILL kill Sharrant before long if he's town (since he apparently has unlimited checks)
2) If Sharrant flips town, then Mocsta is most likely scum
3) If Sharrant never dies, then Mocsta is most likely town and Sharrant scum


So what happens if Sharrant lives past the night and claims roleblocked?
What happens if Sharrant and someone else claims roleblocked?
What happens if Sharrant lives and gives another red check?
What happens if Sharrant lives and gives a green check?


If sharrant claims roleblock then a townie can counterclaim if sharrant is lying.
If sharrant gives another redcheck we can lynch sharrant and if he flips cop we have two nearly confirmed reds.
If sharrant lives and gives a green check that's fine. More information, we'll learn if it's true or wifom at some point.

Think for yourself.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2013 13:19 GMT
#3902
lol Xatalos. sharrant has claimed he can alignment check only on odd nights. You have a really likely confirmed 1-1 trade here. Instead you want to lynch someone who is gonna 100% flip town because you can't read their posts properly.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2013 13:20 GMT
#3903
worst case scenario 1-1 trade, you are willing to "wait for 2 more nights".!!
and lynch townies in process.
wtf?
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 13:24 GMT
#3904
On August 17 2013 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 22:10 Xatalos wrote:
On August 17 2013 22:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
I rescind any and all town feelings on mocsta.
lynch or shoot, whatever, idc.


What do you think of my earlier reasoning:

Actually, the more I think about it...... I might not want to lynch into Sharrant/Mocsta today.
1) Scum can't roleblock anymore (extremely likely) so scum WILL kill Sharrant before long if he's town (since he apparently has unlimited checks)
2) If Sharrant flips town, then Mocsta is most likely scum
3) If Sharrant never dies, then Mocsta is most likely town and Sharrant scum


So what happens if Sharrant lives past the night and claims roleblocked?
What happens if Sharrant and someone else claims roleblocked?
What happens if Sharrant lives and gives another red check?
What happens if Sharrant lives and gives a green check?


1) If he's the only one... well... it seems impossible (since why would scum RB grackaroni? and why would scum even have 2 roleblockers?). But it doesn't really change the main point. Scum will have to kill him sooner rather than later. If he's alive at LYLO, he's most likely scum.
2) Then we lynch one of them, since one is lying quaranteed.
3) Then it's a very good situation, although unlikely (scum should want him dead ASAP).
4) Also good, although not very likely.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18124 Posts
August 17 2013 13:26 GMT
#3905
On August 17 2013 21:48 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
That last line is phrased poorly but you get the idea. No logical sense from rayn.

No, read my posts again. You are totally wrong in what you are saying.


Again, you called me a liar twice and now wrong. Yet again, no explanation where I was lying and what is wrong.

Xata asked you: "if you think onegu is scum that must mean you think clarity is scum, is he?"
You answered: "yes, he is"

Problem is then you made up weird reasons

Yes i thought you were scum at that time. Not for same reasons than Onegu.


But the same "reasoning" applied to both Clarity and Onegu equally.......

Jesus. This thread has gone to shit... and by the looks of it Rayn is the reason. Why are people even engaging him? He's scum.

So is SnB, and so is Mocsta. Their coup failed, because they planned to kill Clarity, but failed: SnB didn't become lord, and town controls 3 votes.

I don't give a shit in which order we kill them.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2013 13:27 GMT
#3906
I don't know what to say any more.

Maybe someone with brain will come and kick some sense into this town.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 13:27 GMT
#3907
On August 17 2013 22:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
worst case scenario 1-1 trade, you are willing to "wait for 2 more nights".!!
and lynch townies in process.
wtf?


Oh yeah the HP check is kind of useless. Although he might be just covering himself with that. In any case scum should want him dead ASAP. If not.... It's not hard to think of why.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2013 13:28 GMT
#3908
On August 17 2013 22:26 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 21:48 Xatalos wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
That last line is phrased poorly but you get the idea. No logical sense from rayn.

No, read my posts again. You are totally wrong in what you are saying.


Again, you called me a liar twice and now wrong. Yet again, no explanation where I was lying and what is wrong.

Xata asked you: "if you think onegu is scum that must mean you think clarity is scum, is he?"
You answered: "yes, he is"

Problem is then you made up weird reasons

Yes i thought you were scum at that time. Not for same reasons than Onegu.


But the same "reasoning" applied to both Clarity and Onegu equally.......

Jesus. This thread has gone to shit... and by the looks of it Rayn is the reason. Why are people even engaging him? He's scum.

So is SnB, and so is Mocsta. Their coup failed, because they planned to kill Clarity, but failed: SnB didn't become lord, and town controls 3 votes.

I don't give a shit in which order we kill them.

You are probably scum because you don't even care to read the thread.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 13:29 GMT
#3909
On August 17 2013 22:26 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 21:48 Xatalos wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 17 2013 21:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
That last line is phrased poorly but you get the idea. No logical sense from rayn.

No, read my posts again. You are totally wrong in what you are saying.


Again, you called me a liar twice and now wrong. Yet again, no explanation where I was lying and what is wrong.

Xata asked you: "if you think onegu is scum that must mean you think clarity is scum, is he?"
You answered: "yes, he is"

Problem is then you made up weird reasons

Yes i thought you were scum at that time. Not for same reasons than Onegu.


But the same "reasoning" applied to both Clarity and Onegu equally.......

Jesus. This thread has gone to shit... and by the looks of it Rayn is the reason. Why are people even engaging him? He's scum.

So is SnB, and so is Mocsta. Their coup failed, because they planned to kill Clarity, but failed: SnB didn't become lord, and town controls 3 votes.

I don't give a shit in which order we kill them.


You should. It's in no way quaranteed that they are all scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 17 2013 13:33 GMT
#3910
On August 17 2013 22:16 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 22:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
I rescind any and all town feelings on mocsta.
lynch or shoot, whatever, idc.

All cos I wouldn't give u hp check info lol
Why is that alignment indicative again? U asked me to be shot

yeah cause you have this thing called a red check
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 17 2013 13:34 GMT
#3911
the order should be snb -> shoot mocsta
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 13:35 GMT
#3912
Actually I agree that Mocsta shouldn't be lynched in any case. He's already half-dead so he should be shot if anything.

So the real lynch options are: rayn, snb.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2013 13:38 GMT
#3913
On August 17 2013 22:35 Xatalos wrote:
Actually I agree that Mocsta shouldn't be lynched in any case. He's already half-dead so he should be shot if anything.

So the real lynch options are: rayn, snb.

How do you know how many hitpoints Mocsta has?
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18124 Posts
August 17 2013 13:41 GMT
#3914
On August 17 2013 22:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
the order should be snb -> shoot mocsta

Let me think on this. Why is Rayn not in your list?

Also, how is Mocsta below full HP? I don't know of any lords shooting him?

N1, all lords allegedly shot gumshoe. If someone didn't, they didn't claim.
N2, no shots went to Mocsta insofar as I know.
N3, only Sharrant claimed to shoot someone other than Kush/jwup and he shot Koshi.

So who shot jrkirby/Mocsta?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 13:45 GMT
#3915
On August 17 2013 22:41 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 22:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
the order should be snb -> shoot mocsta

Let me think on this. Why is Rayn not in your list?

Also, how is Mocsta below full HP? I don't know of any lords shooting him?

N1, all lords allegedly shot gumshoe. If someone didn't, they didn't claim.
N2, no shots went to Mocsta insofar as I know.
N3, only Sharrant claimed to shoot someone other than Kush/jwup and he shot Koshi.

So who shot jrkirby/Mocsta?


Need to know information, but both me and xata know.
It wasn't really rayn shitting up the thread as much as it was me.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2013 13:48 GMT
#3916
There seems to be a big amount of information Clarity and Xatalos know that others don't..
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 13:49 GMT
#3917
On August 17 2013 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 22:35 Xatalos wrote:
Actually I agree that Mocsta shouldn't be lynched in any case. He's already half-dead so he should be shot if anything.

So the real lynch options are: rayn, snb.

How do you know how many hitpoints Mocsta has?


PM secrets.

Actually this would be fine with me:

Lynch snb
Finish 1) Mocsta 2) johnnywup (both partly dead)

Deal with rayn depending on flips.

Any disagreements?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2013 13:50 GMT
#3918
I also would like Xatalos to explain how are you going to shoot Mocsta tonight when you lynch me.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 17 2013 13:51 GMT
#3919
On August 17 2013 22:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There seems to be a big amount of information Clarity and Xatalos know that others don't..


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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 17 2013 13:54 GMT
#3920
Gonna be a hypocrit, once.
[image loading]
Xata + Clarity cute seals.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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