GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars - Page 173

On August 16 2013 06:15 Xatalos wrote:


A bad and wasted choice. It's just 1 KP and helping scum most likely in any case. What does that achieve?

On August 16 2013 06:19 Koshi wrote:
I don't like Risen anymore.

On August 16 2013 06:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
Risen, how do you feel about shooting yourself?

On August 16 2013 06:23 Risen wrote:


I don't think that would be very productive. I'd rather have us shoot people to get them into lord range and lynch me. I'm going to be a very viable lynch target if Vivax flips red since I've been soft-pushing him and shit all game without actually acting, so I'm going to hang eventually. We should shoot people who aren't likely to be lynched but appear scummy down to 4/5 hp if we can tonight and then get coordinated lord shots to finish them off later depending on Vivax flip.

Shot targets tonight should be
johnnywup, Koshi, maybe SnB but he seems like another lynch candidate should Vivax flip red.

On August 16 2013 06:24 Xatalos wrote:


So do you agree about 1) Kush 2) johnnywup?

On August 16 2013 06:25 Risen wrote:


Kush is already in lord KP kill range I thought.

On August 16 2013 06:27 Xatalos wrote:


Let's put it like this:

1-5 EDT Xatalos

5-9 EDT Risen

9-13 EDT s0lstice

13-17 EDT Clarity

17-21 EDT Sharrant

21-1 EDT Onegu

We shoot Kush until he dies. If you don't shoot him, we'll know. Because you're in second slot. When Kush flips the rest shoot into johnnywup. Agreed?

On August 16 2013 04:44 Acrofales wrote:
Fuck it. I've reread strongandbig's filter and I think he's scum.

Name claiming

Lets start with the whole Clarity thing. I didn't like how it got blown up into a giant problem, but didn't really think much of it. However, rereading it seems somewhat scummy to nameclaim like that. Scum (at least some of them) have townie names, as evidenced by Yamato flipping Doran Martell. If, at the start of the game, you can gain some town credit by nameclaiming, this seems like a pretty good idea. If scum have some kind of KP that relies on nameclaiming, then it makes it a fucking excellent idea.

This was the reason I was a bit suspicious of johnnywup at the start of the game. Nameclaiming is simply not a townie thing to do when you have zero knowledge about the setup. He subsequently made a big stink about how Clarity sent the message on to Oatsmaster, and I found Oats' behaviour in the whole ordeal really fucking scummy, so forgot about SnB's nameclaim starting the whole thing off. But I want some answers:

SnB: why did you ignore all the risks of nameclaiming if you're town. Johnnywup, when I pressed him, claimed ignorance. You, however, are not a newbie and have played in at least 2 games I can think of where nameclaiming could get you killed (and in fact, in CT you had the very role to kill nameclaimers unless I am mistaking things). Additionally you claim it's a townie thing to do and should get you elected. You KNOW this is false. Why the lies?

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Worthless reads as a lord
As a lord, we get this:

Distancing himself from his own vote.


Test balloon: lets see if we can get a decent town player lynched on a ridiculous pretext. If people wagon, then awesome, otherwise no harm no foul.

Then his vote ends up on Onegu:

This is one of the shoddiest votes I have ever seen, especially as the earlier posts were him actually defending Onegu:

So what made Onegu a worse lurker than jrkirby, FirmTofu, gumshoe, or really any of the other useless lurkers.

Nothing. Onegu was, in fact, a less useless lurker. But he needed to toss his vote without letting it be accountable at all.

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Active when pressured

Then on D2 when he is no longer lord, and just as people are starting to think seriously of shooting him dead at night, he comes in to save his ass with the case on Risen.

His reason for not wanting to be lord is fucking phoney as hell: he wanted to reclaim his townie status, but did absolutely NOTHING towards that. Resulting in him basically disqualifying himself from the lord position, where he would not be able to lurk as much.

Most of this has already been discussed, so I'll leave it at this.

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The Yamato connection

Yamato on SnB:



Neither of these seem like sincere efforts to push a lynch on SnB, and particularly the second one is complete nonsense: half a meta read because it IGNORES the fact that SnB's latest town games have been lurky sacks of uselessness as well. He was endgamed and ignored by scum in NWM, and modkilled for inactivity in PTP. Hardly a shining record to contrast with his lurky inactive scumgame. This read was easily discredited, but notice that SnB has no real interaction with yamato, despite SnB being yamato's main scumread. He just ignores it, because he knows yamato will never push the read.

What we do have, is this:

2 minutes later comes the test balloon of lynching me for roleplaying, and another 5 minutes later his vote is on Onegu with NO explanation worth speaking of (except, he's lurking). What happened to this will to lynch Yamato? It vanished in thin air... in about 5 minutes flat.

On D2 you'd think he'd have something to say about the red check on Yamato when he was so happy to report he had caught up on the thread, but no. He spouted off some nothingness that said very little in very many words. Avoid the contaminated scumbuddy like the plague!

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@all lords: please lynch.