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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 14 2013 18:28 GMT
#2941
My head hurts.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 14 2013 18:28 GMT
#2942
On August 15 2013 03:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:19 Vivax wrote:
Also, can anybody explain to me why we're not lynching johnnyscum today?

too much scum, not enough lynches.

No Dandel, it was this. And people being dumb as fuck.
table for two on a tv tray
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 14 2013 18:28 GMT
#2943
Taking a break that was so bad it ruins the credibility of my case I've made. Shit on my life...
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
August 14 2013 18:29 GMT
#2944
On August 15 2013 03:24 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:18 Vivax wrote:
Risen, answer the question please.


Which question?

And as to the nature of the scumslip, Xatalos has been in PMs with me for a while now soft defending Shar. I don't really think anything of it and I'm trying to bring him around to seeing Shar as scum. Nothing truly sticks out, I think he's just trying to gain perspective on me. He then tells me in PM that Shar's claimed 2 PM ability is simply house PMs. House have 3 people. The 2 PM ability isn't house PMs or it would be 3. ggnore

I'm not sure I follow. Sharrant was referring to me + the 2 other people in our house. There's nobody dead yet, so there's 4 of us.

And why does Xatalos bringing this up make it a scumslip from Xatalos? The info was already in the thread.

Please explain better.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
August 14 2013 18:31 GMT
#2945
On August 15 2013 03:24 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:18 Vivax wrote:
Risen, answer the question please.


Which question?


On August 15 2013 02:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:54 Risen wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:22 Acrofales wrote:
On August 15 2013 01:15 Risen wrote:
So we have a claimed cop who didn't die last night with a red check on the clear lynch candidate for d2. Has anyone thought why there would be a one shot cop in this game when there's so many people? There isn't.

This is so simple a lynch.

I told him in private that if he wasn't roleblocked or killed, he was scum. He has claimed roleblocked. I don't see a third roleblocked claim.

The way the roleblock claims have worked out, it seems unlikely they are fake and it seems unlikely a town JK blocked him. So he was blocked by scum. Seems legit to me.


+1

Also, ##Unvote


Never seen scum roleblockers withhold their RB and let their teammates claim it?
+ Show Spoiler +
I did it


You have no way of knowing if the roleblock was fake.
Explain why it's unlikely that they are, or why it shouldn't have been a JK.

You should go with what's in the thread.
Sharrant doesn't post the stuff he should post, if he was town, this is like my third or fourth game with him, and I know how he plays town, this isn't it.

But keep thinking that scum never busses like that, that's what they want.


Ofcourse I've seen it. When Acro says unlikely he means exactly that, unlikely.
Could sharrant be scum? Yeah. Is he scum? Dunno, probably not.
Should we lynch him today? NO WTF WHAT A DUMBASS QUESTION
If he's scum they have to continue withholding roleblocks, there's like 4 or 5 more scum most likely, why lynch the cop who gave us a redcheck that turned out to be right?


The clear answer is that you lynch scum whenever you find them. But if you're unwilling, how about we lynch acro, then when he flips red we shoot sharrant.

##unvote
##vote: Acrofales


I don't see the connection between Sharrant and Acro, can you elaborate?
Also, where did this go?

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 01:33 Risen wrote:
Also, sab clearly scum. Hedging himself against sharrant's eventual red flip, while simultaneously calling me out as scum even though I'm the one saving town when sharrant had no one looking through his filter, apparently, since I'm the only one who called out the giant gaping hole in his logic.

To be fair, that's probably in line with my scum "meta" or some inane nonsense. I hate meta so much...... it's absurd. People become aware of their metas and then act accordingly. What's my town meta? Is it any different than my scum meta? I always try to find scummy things in thread and point them out regardless of my alignment.




Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
August 14 2013 18:32 GMT
#2946
On August 15 2013 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now Acro, who is guilty in this in this game:
Show nested quote +
- Flipflopping your vote 1 minute before the lynch



???
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 13:59 Acrofales wrote:
Wait. Where the hell is my vote. Are we sure we're killing tofu?

Oh i know, YOU!

Didn't flip, nor flop. Plus, insane ballsy scumplays is not my scum meta.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
August 14 2013 18:32 GMT
#2947
That's no scumslip, the other two were the house members who weren't Acro, cause he was talking about how Acro couldn't know if everyone had that info.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 14 2013 18:32 GMT
#2948
lol
dat risen
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 14 2013 18:32 GMT
#2949
I was just going to say that Risen is basically mentally retarded. There's no way anyone sane could think I was scum from our exchange. Like what? I'm starting to lose faith in humanity and most of all in Risen's ability to think at all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 14 2013 18:35 GMT
#2950
But it does feel like he truly believed that so it's not really scummy. Just unbelievably dumb. Like totally ridiculous in every imaginable fashion. "Too dumb to be scum".... Not sure. He's taking that so far, is it intentional...... To be honest I doubt it. That's just such a great amount of stupid.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 14 2013 18:37 GMT
#2951
Ah yes the age old "how retarded can a person possibly be" problem.
I'm currently pondering on something similar in regards to the zombie.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
August 14 2013 18:37 GMT
#2952
On August 15 2013 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
I was just going to say that Risen is basically mentally retarded. There's no way anyone sane could think I was scum from our exchange. Like what? I'm starting to lose faith in humanity and most of all in Risen's ability to think at all.


On August 15 2013 03:35 Xatalos wrote:
But it does feel like he truly believed that so it's not really scummy. Just unbelievably dumb. Like totally ridiculous in every imaginable fashion. "Too dumb to be scum".... Not sure. He's taking that so far, is it intentional...... To be honest I doubt it. That's just such a great amount of stupid.


What a nice person you are.
Throw insults and then give him a townread, is that advancedz scumz tacticz?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 14 2013 18:37 GMT
#2953
Xatalos can you answer me please to my last post directed to you.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 14 2013 18:37 GMT
#2954
But it does shed some light on why every single one of Risen's reads so far has been utterly insane. Maybe he truly believed in all of them without thinking at all. This recent development at least proves it to be possible.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 14 2013 18:38 GMT
#2955
On August 15 2013 03:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
I was just going to say that Risen is basically mentally retarded. There's no way anyone sane could think I was scum from our exchange. Like what? I'm starting to lose faith in humanity and most of all in Risen's ability to think at all.


Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:35 Xatalos wrote:
But it does feel like he truly believed that so it's not really scummy. Just unbelievably dumb. Like totally ridiculous in every imaginable fashion. "Too dumb to be scum".... Not sure. He's taking that so far, is it intentional...... To be honest I doubt it. That's just such a great amount of stupid.


What a nice person you are.
Throw insults and then give him a townread, is that advancedz scumz tacticz?


You can't understand what it's like to argue with him about something this stupid.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
August 14 2013 18:39 GMT
#2956
On August 15 2013 03:11 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:07 Acrofales wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:54 Risen wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:22 Acrofales wrote:
On August 15 2013 01:15 Risen wrote:
So we have a claimed cop who didn't die last night with a red check on the clear lynch candidate for d2. Has anyone thought why there would be a one shot cop in this game when there's so many people? There isn't.

This is so simple a lynch.

I told him in private that if he wasn't roleblocked or killed, he was scum. He has claimed roleblocked. I don't see a third roleblocked claim.

The way the roleblock claims have worked out, it seems unlikely they are fake and it seems unlikely a town JK blocked him. So he was blocked by scum. Seems legit to me.


+1

Also, ##Unvote


Never seen scum roleblockers withhold their RB and let their teammates claim it?
+ Show Spoiler +
I did it


You have no way of knowing if the roleblock was fake.
Explain why it's unlikely that they are, or why it shouldn't have been a JK.

You should go with what's in the thread.
Sharrant doesn't post the stuff he should post, if he was town, this is like my third or fourth game with him, and I know how he plays town, this isn't it.

But keep thinking that scum never busses like that, that's what they want.


Ofcourse I've seen it. When Acro says unlikely he means exactly that, unlikely.
Could sharrant be scum? Yeah. Is he scum? Dunno, probably not.
Should we lynch him today? NO WTF WHAT A DUMBASS QUESTION
If he's scum they have to continue withholding roleblocks, there's like 4 or 5 more scum most likely, why lynch the cop who gave us a redcheck that turned out to be right?


The clear answer is that you lynch scum whenever you find them. But if you're unwilling, how about we lynch acro, then when he flips red we shoot sharrant.

##unvote
##vote: Acrofales

/facepalm

Risen: GAIS. I HAVE A CONNECTION CASE THAT MAKES ACRO SCUM
Guys: But you're connecting him to an unflipped guy who is probably town
Risen: HRMM, MAYBE. BUT LETS LYNCH HIM AND THEN FOLLOW THE CONNECTION BACKWARDS!

Question: what happens when I flip town? Where does this connection go?

Honestly, I thought you were town, but could you be bamboozling me as badly as you did in CT? I mean. Your reads have made 0 sense this game. Nothing, nada, zip. I keep coming out on you being town because I don't think a scum you would go after the cop, but honestly, insane ballsy plays are not beyond your scumplay. In fact, they seem to define your scumplay:

- Flipflopping your vote 1 minute before the lynch
- Claiming parity cop on random people

Honestly, I have no clue what to think about you anymore.


This is my biggest problem with believing Acro is town. To disagree with me on my scum read of Sharrant and by connection him is one thing, but to give no merit to a case that has solid things that need answering is another.

If he honestly believed I was scum he would push me and vote for me, but he knows I'm town and doesn't want to be the one to do it. There's a few people in this game pushing me but not putting their foot down and tunneling. I think it's a scumspiracy and they're just waiting for a town player to tunnel so they can pounce.


I gave merit to the little bit of the case you made on Sharrant that made sense. He has since explained that satisfactorily. I cannot wrap my head around you. It seems impossible for you to be scum and playing like this, but that's EXACTLY what burned me last time you were scum.

That said, I think you should be lynched AFTER Rayn. He's more likely scum than you. You are just batshit insane. So we lynch Rayn and if he is indeed scum, you're pretty much cleared. I don't think he would be hard defending you if you are scum with him. If I am inadvertently wrong and he's town, then all bets are off.

From now on I will be happy to ignore your batshit insane bullshit until such time as Rayn flips, proves conclusively that he's town or you scumclaim like Yamato.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 14 2013 18:42 GMT
#2957
Why do you actually think i am scum Acro?
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
August 14 2013 18:42 GMT
#2958
Look, Xatalos. My question regarding your (suddenly not any more?) scumread, of which you fail to understand why he would attack you like that (although he's your scumread you don't see scummy intentions?).
Can you answer this or will you post some more insults, lols and rofls, great lord of house shitvotes?

On August 15 2013 00:55 Vivax wrote:
I don't see what you mean with contradictory statements from Risen. You posted that he was wrong about you and Dandel, afterwards you posted this:

Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
I agree that Risen is quite likely town (unfortunately, one might also say).


So I wonder now, why do you mention something that is supposed to make him scum when in the past it wasn't reason enough and you gave him a townread in spite of what you call a contradiction now.

Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 14 2013 18:43 GMT
#2959
On August 15 2013 03:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
I was just going to say that Risen is basically mentally retarded. There's no way anyone sane could think I was scum from our exchange. Like what? I'm starting to lose faith in humanity and most of all in Risen's ability to think at all.


Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:35 Xatalos wrote:
But it does feel like he truly believed that so it's not really scummy. Just unbelievably dumb. Like totally ridiculous in every imaginable fashion. "Too dumb to be scum".... Not sure. He's taking that so far, is it intentional...... To be honest I doubt it. That's just such a great amount of stupid.


What a nice person you are.
Throw insults and then give him a townread, is that advancedz scumz tacticz?

lol i do that all the time

as town i may add.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 14 2013 18:52 GMT
#2960
I'm starting to think we should just shoot Risen. He very rarely makes sense and when he does, it's all unlikely WIFOM speculation. Either he's scum or scum are rejoicing to have him at LYLO to help them.

rayn and Vivax, I will answer. Just wait a bit.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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