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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 14 2013 17:56 GMT
#2901
Yeah about that. I have a townread on acro. I'm warming up to an snb lynch though Risen. How do you feel about that?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 14 2013 17:57 GMT
#2902
On August 15 2013 02:51 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:46 Chromatically wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:42 Risen wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:39 Chromatically wrote:
-Risen has ONE reason for his STRONG scumread on Vivax
-the reason does NOT apply to Vivax
-the reason applies better to others, but Risen has no problem with them

where is the town?


Perhaps I've moved on to tunneling other people? Why are you so fixated on this?

Because it makes zero sense whatsoever from a town perspective?


Why not? I had scum reads, they weren't exactly strong, but they were scum reads. I moved on because I found something else, and now I've moved on because I've once again found something else.

The end.

The problem isn't changing reads, it's the lack of reasoning behind them.

What do you think about Vivax now?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 14 2013 17:58 GMT
#2903
On August 15 2013 02:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia?


Eduardo Nbobo

So you just looked at one game? Why?

If you remember i specifically told in scumchat that i am not able to be active...


I don't care, I don't think you're scum.
Do you want me to think you're scum?

I am interested in why are you defending me based on false pretenses.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 14 2013 17:59 GMT
#2904
On August 15 2013 02:54 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:22 Acrofales wrote:
On August 15 2013 01:15 Risen wrote:
So we have a claimed cop who didn't die last night with a red check on the clear lynch candidate for d2. Has anyone thought why there would be a one shot cop in this game when there's so many people? There isn't.

This is so simple a lynch.

I told him in private that if he wasn't roleblocked or killed, he was scum. He has claimed roleblocked. I don't see a third roleblocked claim.

The way the roleblock claims have worked out, it seems unlikely they are fake and it seems unlikely a town JK blocked him. So he was blocked by scum. Seems legit to me.


+1

Also, ##Unvote


Never seen scum roleblockers withhold their RB and let their teammates claim it?
+ Show Spoiler +
I did it


You have no way of knowing if the roleblock was fake.
Explain why it's unlikely that they are, or why it shouldn't have been a JK.

You should go with what's in the thread.
Sharrant doesn't post the stuff he should post, if he was town, this is like my third or fourth game with him, and I know how he plays town, this isn't it.

But keep thinking that scum never busses like that, that's what they want.


Ofcourse I've seen it. When Acro says unlikely he means exactly that, unlikely.
Could sharrant be scum? Yeah. Is he scum? Dunno, probably not.
Should we lynch him today? NO WTF WHAT A DUMBASS QUESTION
If he's scum they have to continue withholding roleblocks, there's like 4 or 5 more scum most likely, why lynch the cop who gave us a redcheck that turned out to be right?


The clear answer is that you lynch scum whenever you find them. But if you're unwilling, how about we lynch acro, then when he flips red we shoot sharrant.

##unvote
##vote: Acrofales


I don't see the connection between Sharrant and Acro, can you elaborate?
Also, where did this go?

On August 15 2013 01:33 Risen wrote:
Also, sab clearly scum. Hedging himself against sharrant's eventual red flip, while simultaneously calling me out as scum even though I'm the one saving town when sharrant had no one looking through his filter, apparently, since I'm the only one who called out the giant gaping hole in his logic.

To be fair, that's probably in line with my scum "meta" or some inane nonsense. I hate meta so much...... it's absurd. People become aware of their metas and then act accordingly. What's my town meta? Is it any different than my scum meta? I always try to find scummy things in thread and point them out regardless of my alignment.



Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 14 2013 18:00 GMT
#2905
On August 15 2013 02:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah about that. I have a townread on acro. I'm warming up to an snb lynch though Risen. How do you feel about that?


Iamp had a town read, too. So assuming I'm horribly wrong and I'm just not seeing it (has happened before)

I'm down for lynching Vivax or SnB. Vivax is just rehashing my shit. SnB supports my arguments to lynch Sharrant while simultaneously pushing me.

Anyone see anything wrong with this?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 14 2013 18:01 GMT
#2906
On August 15 2013 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:54 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia?


Eduardo Nbobo

So you just looked at one game? Why?

If you remember i specifically told in scumchat that i am not able to be active...


I don't care, I don't think you're scum.
Do you want me to think you're scum?

I am interested in why are you defending me based on false pretenses.


I don't think you would be this headstrong as scum.
In that game your posts were unsure, your reads spread out. You got lynched D1.
If you managed to change your play that much, props to your scumplay. You're being super tryhard.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 14 2013 18:06 GMT
#2907
On August 15 2013 02:57 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:51 Risen wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:46 Chromatically wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:42 Risen wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:39 Chromatically wrote:
-Risen has ONE reason for his STRONG scumread on Vivax
-the reason does NOT apply to Vivax
-the reason applies better to others, but Risen has no problem with them

where is the town?


Perhaps I've moved on to tunneling other people? Why are you so fixated on this?

Because it makes zero sense whatsoever from a town perspective?


Why not? I had scum reads, they weren't exactly strong, but they were scum reads. I moved on because I found something else, and now I've moved on because I've once again found something else.

The end.

The problem isn't changing reads, it's the lack of reasoning behind them.

What do you think about Vivax now?


I've had a reason behind every one of my changes. Just because you disagree with my reasoning doesn't mean I don't have one. It's a mistake a lot of people make, so don't feel bad.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 14 2013 18:06 GMT
#2908
On August 15 2013 03:01 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:54 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia?


Eduardo Nbobo

So you just looked at one game? Why?

If you remember i specifically told in scumchat that i am not able to be active...


I don't care, I don't think you're scum.
Do you want me to think you're scum?

I am interested in why are you defending me based on false pretenses.


I don't think you would be this headstrong as scum.
In that game your posts were unsure, your reads spread out. You got lynched D1.
If you managed to change your play that much, props to your scumplay. You're being super tryhard.

I challenge you to look at Catch 22. Go ahead and tell me what do you think after that.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 14 2013 18:06 GMT
#2909
On August 15 2013 01:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 20:34 Sharrant wrote:
Good morning, everyone.

Like Johnny said, I'm not going to be active for a while. I should be phone posting in about 12 hours, and hopefully posting from my laptop in 14ish.

Running late now: Vivax, SnB, Koshi, JrKirby/Mocsta are all persons of interest to me right now. Koshi has the strongest case in my eyes for being SK. Vivax never openly expressed his thoughts on Yamato (If I'm recalling correctly), but did so in PMs, this is suspicious to me. SnB has been such a non-factor that I feel he has a good chance of being scum. And JrKirby would have been my choice if not for Mocsta's replacement. Without the replacement he would be my for sure choice for lynch today,

Actual analysis will come when I'm not late for important things.

How did Sharrant even get elected? House Tyrell is the worst. 1,5 page filter and afk for another 12 hours.
His latest persons of interests are
Vivax because he thought Yamato was scum in PMs.
Koshi because he is the SK.
SnB because he is a non-factor.
And then of course jrkirby but not mocsta."I think you are 99% scum, but I am going to let you stay alive so you can misdirect the thread for a while"

If today somebody else then Sharrant/Mocsta is getting lynched I am going to be really really sad.


Koshi actually summed it up nicely.
These are Sharrant's scumreads for today.
Please tell me those are good reasons for thinking somebody is scum.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18438 Posts
August 14 2013 18:07 GMT
#2910
On August 15 2013 02:54 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:22 Acrofales wrote:
On August 15 2013 01:15 Risen wrote:
So we have a claimed cop who didn't die last night with a red check on the clear lynch candidate for d2. Has anyone thought why there would be a one shot cop in this game when there's so many people? There isn't.

This is so simple a lynch.

I told him in private that if he wasn't roleblocked or killed, he was scum. He has claimed roleblocked. I don't see a third roleblocked claim.

The way the roleblock claims have worked out, it seems unlikely they are fake and it seems unlikely a town JK blocked him. So he was blocked by scum. Seems legit to me.


+1

Also, ##Unvote


Never seen scum roleblockers withhold their RB and let their teammates claim it?
+ Show Spoiler +
I did it


You have no way of knowing if the roleblock was fake.
Explain why it's unlikely that they are, or why it shouldn't have been a JK.

You should go with what's in the thread.
Sharrant doesn't post the stuff he should post, if he was town, this is like my third or fourth game with him, and I know how he plays town, this isn't it.

But keep thinking that scum never busses like that, that's what they want.


Ofcourse I've seen it. When Acro says unlikely he means exactly that, unlikely.
Could sharrant be scum? Yeah. Is he scum? Dunno, probably not.
Should we lynch him today? NO WTF WHAT A DUMBASS QUESTION
If he's scum they have to continue withholding roleblocks, there's like 4 or 5 more scum most likely, why lynch the cop who gave us a redcheck that turned out to be right?


The clear answer is that you lynch scum whenever you find them. But if you're unwilling, how about we lynch acro, then when he flips red we shoot sharrant.

##unvote
##vote: Acrofales

/facepalm

Risen: GAIS. I HAVE A CONNECTION CASE THAT MAKES ACRO SCUM
Guys: But you're connecting him to an unflipped guy who is probably town
Risen: HRMM, MAYBE. BUT LETS LYNCH HIM AND THEN FOLLOW THE CONNECTION BACKWARDS!

Question: what happens when I flip town? Where does this connection go?

Honestly, I thought you were town, but could you be bamboozling me as badly as you did in CT? I mean. Your reads have made 0 sense this game. Nothing, nada, zip. I keep coming out on you being town because I don't think a scum you would go after the cop, but honestly, insane ballsy plays are not beyond your scumplay. In fact, they seem to define your scumplay:

- Flipflopping your vote 1 minute before the lynch
- Claiming parity cop on random people

Honestly, I have no clue what to think about you anymore.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 14 2013 18:08 GMT
#2911
Koshi has done the most towniest thing in thread today, I already questioned people about it and noone was able to see it. :/
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
August 14 2013 18:09 GMT
#2912
On August 15 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:01 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:54 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia?


Eduardo Nbobo

So you just looked at one game? Why?

If you remember i specifically told in scumchat that i am not able to be active...


I don't care, I don't think you're scum.
Do you want me to think you're scum?

I am interested in why are you defending me based on false pretenses.


I don't think you would be this headstrong as scum.
In that game your posts were unsure, your reads spread out. You got lynched D1.
If you managed to change your play that much, props to your scumplay. You're being super tryhard.

I challenge you to look at Catch 22. Go ahead and tell me what do you think after that.


Are you dumb or scum Rayn? Now you got me curious.
Why would you point me to yourself if you're town, it only takes away time to look for scum.
You would do it if you're scum being all like "Oh look at me I want to be scrutinized I'm so townie gimme da credz baby"

Why don't you talk about your Mocsta case I dismissed as being shit.
Shouldn't you be mad?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 14 2013 18:10 GMT
#2913
Now Acro, who is guilty in this in this game:
- Flipflopping your vote 1 minute before the lynch



???
On August 10 2013 13:59 Acrofales wrote:
Wait. Where the hell is my vote. Are we sure we're killing tofu?

Oh i know, YOU!
table for two on a tv tray
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 14 2013 18:11 GMT
#2914
On August 15 2013 03:07 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:54 Risen wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:22 Acrofales wrote:
On August 15 2013 01:15 Risen wrote:
So we have a claimed cop who didn't die last night with a red check on the clear lynch candidate for d2. Has anyone thought why there would be a one shot cop in this game when there's so many people? There isn't.

This is so simple a lynch.

I told him in private that if he wasn't roleblocked or killed, he was scum. He has claimed roleblocked. I don't see a third roleblocked claim.

The way the roleblock claims have worked out, it seems unlikely they are fake and it seems unlikely a town JK blocked him. So he was blocked by scum. Seems legit to me.


+1

Also, ##Unvote


Never seen scum roleblockers withhold their RB and let their teammates claim it?
+ Show Spoiler +
I did it


You have no way of knowing if the roleblock was fake.
Explain why it's unlikely that they are, or why it shouldn't have been a JK.

You should go with what's in the thread.
Sharrant doesn't post the stuff he should post, if he was town, this is like my third or fourth game with him, and I know how he plays town, this isn't it.

But keep thinking that scum never busses like that, that's what they want.


Ofcourse I've seen it. When Acro says unlikely he means exactly that, unlikely.
Could sharrant be scum? Yeah. Is he scum? Dunno, probably not.
Should we lynch him today? NO WTF WHAT A DUMBASS QUESTION
If he's scum they have to continue withholding roleblocks, there's like 4 or 5 more scum most likely, why lynch the cop who gave us a redcheck that turned out to be right?


The clear answer is that you lynch scum whenever you find them. But if you're unwilling, how about we lynch acro, then when he flips red we shoot sharrant.

##unvote
##vote: Acrofales

/facepalm

Risen: GAIS. I HAVE A CONNECTION CASE THAT MAKES ACRO SCUM
Guys: But you're connecting him to an unflipped guy who is probably town
Risen: HRMM, MAYBE. BUT LETS LYNCH HIM AND THEN FOLLOW THE CONNECTION BACKWARDS!

Question: what happens when I flip town? Where does this connection go?

Honestly, I thought you were town, but could you be bamboozling me as badly as you did in CT? I mean. Your reads have made 0 sense this game. Nothing, nada, zip. I keep coming out on you being town because I don't think a scum you would go after the cop, but honestly, insane ballsy plays are not beyond your scumplay. In fact, they seem to define your scumplay:

- Flipflopping your vote 1 minute before the lynch
- Claiming parity cop on random people

Honestly, I have no clue what to think about you anymore.


This is my biggest problem with believing Acro is town. To disagree with me on my scum read of Sharrant and by connection him is one thing, but to give no merit to a case that has solid things that need answering is another.

If he honestly believed I was scum he would push me and vote for me, but he knows I'm town and doesn't want to be the one to do it. There's a few people in this game pushing me but not putting their foot down and tunneling. I think it's a scumspiracy and they're just waiting for a town player to tunnel so they can pounce.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 14 2013 18:13 GMT
#2915
On August 15 2013 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi has done the most towniest thing in thread today, I already questioned people about it and noone was able to see it. :/


Rather than asking us about it, which does NOTHING but increase your post count by one, how about you tell us?
Like, I saw your post and ignored it figuring you'd eventually just get to the point. But now you just +1'd your +1 post.
And I think you're town ffs.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 14 2013 18:14 GMT
#2916
On August 15 2013 03:07 Acrofales wrote:
Risen: GAIS. I HAVE A CONNECTION CASE THAT MAKES ACRO SCUM
Guys: But you're connecting him to an unflipped guy who is probably town
Risen: HRMM, MAYBE. BUT LETS LYNCH HIM AND THEN FOLLOW THE CONNECTION BACKWARDS!

Sounds like a good plan to me
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 14 2013 18:15 GMT
#2917
note: that was not not sarcasm.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 14 2013 18:16 GMT
#2918
On August 15 2013 03:14 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:07 Acrofales wrote:
Risen: GAIS. I HAVE A CONNECTION CASE THAT MAKES ACRO SCUM
Guys: But you're connecting him to an unflipped guy who is probably town
Risen: HRMM, MAYBE. BUT LETS LYNCH HIM AND THEN FOLLOW THE CONNECTION BACKWARDS!

Sounds like a good plan to me


Dandel please do something useful rather than just popping in randomly to attempt to be witty.
How do you feel about an snb lynch today?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 14 2013 18:17 GMT
#2919
I'd be fine with lynching snb, but I also know he's always a useless sack of nothing as town. But I also know he has no trouble copying that examplary townplay as scum.

tl;dr: null and useless, okay lynch.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 14 2013 18:17 GMT
#2920
#useful
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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