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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 29 2013 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: The fact that he magically missed that point about XRZ on D1. Instead he was calling FT scummy. Now he want's to lynch FT's target based on FT's reasons... I dont see how any of this is scummy. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 29 2013 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: The fact that he magically missed that point about XRZ on D1. Instead he was calling FT scummy. Now he want's to lynch FT's target based on FT's reasons... I could make the same argument about vivax and you suddenly being suspicious of me, but I didn't. Sometimes you don't notice stuff the first time around, and sometimes you're scum just looking for reasons. How can you tell which is which? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 29 2013 23:57 Clarity_nl wrote: I could make the same argument about vivax and you suddenly being suspicious of me, but I didn't. Sometimes you don't notice stuff the first time around, and sometimes you're scum just looking for reasons. How can you tell which is which? How is that comparable? I changed my opinion after more things happened. Vivax changes his opinion and now he is presenting the same case his D1 scumread did and it's "his case". | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 30 2013 00:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax has not read FT's posts closely on D1, which makes no sense as he was calling him scum If anything, scum read someones posts closer than they would as town. | ||
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Vivax
22424 Posts
You want an explanation why I didn't pay attention to FT's case? Didn't read it. I found him scummy since he complained about me avoiding his questions, not for his case, and I didn't pay attention to XRZ at the time. I'll also add that while me and FT often mention the same posts, our observations and conclusions seem to be different. That's what I get from having just looked through his case at least. I argue that XRZ is scum for mentioning reasons he stops seeing as important, unless I missed something that's not an argument Tofu uses. The part we have in common is the way XRZ could accept that it was a joke post, but doesn't really get conclusive on it. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 29 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote: So bad tunneling townie or scum Vivax? I dunno, Im willing to let him stay alive for a bit and lynch other dudes first. Oats, when you get the chance I would like you to go back this and elaborate. Or even just tell me if this still holds true now (only an hour later, I know). Do you you think Exar is town or scum right now? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 30 2013 00:16 hzflank wrote: Oats, when you get the chance I would like you to go back this and elaborate. Or even just tell me if this still holds true now (only an hour later, I know). Do you you think Exar is town or scum right now? I dont think exar is near the top of my scumlist. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
cya tomorrow, im sure ill be alive | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 29 2013 19:34 justanothertownie wrote: But to answer your question: gut-wise and without thinking it through very well the 4 persons I would probably lynch are: koshi, hzflank, maybe stutters/vayne and you Take this with a grain of salt. Wait a second... You would lynch both Koshi and me? Why? What is it about the interactions between Koshi and I that look scum-scum to you? | ||
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Vivax
22424 Posts
On July 29 2013 23:46 exarezee wrote: And to address your main case against me Virax. I lessened my scum read on papers when he posted that his entire day of posts was a joke. The higher the chance I think he was actually joking the whole time, then, the less scummy I deem his posts. However, the next time he comes to the thread, he goes back on the fact that his entire day was a joke. He said that he was trying to get a read from me. Is trying to get a read from someone a joke? The rest of his day's posts were poor too. That is what reinforced my read on him as a scum. It's not that his entire day of posts was a joke, his vote on you was a joke, and his "let's go lurk" post was sarcastic. You also used arguments in his previous posts, where he discusses lurker lynching, against him. Oats, weren't you the guy who said that scum doesn't get jokes? Why do you have such a hardon for defending this guy? Anyway, XRZ's waffling on the joke shit was ridiculous. Here again, the points of his case: 2nd post. A pretty safe post leaving himself wiggle room. Says he doesn't mind voting a lurker because they are a libability later in the game. True, but it's more of a liability to lose the game before we get to late game. Backs it up that it's hard to get a read...reinforcing his idea that it's not a bad idea to lynch a lurker. So he knows that we need interactions between the dead and alive to figure out this game. How does he still advocate lynching a lurker? It is basically a waste of a day to lynch someone with few to no interactions. Have the vigilante shoot them for crying out loud or force the scum to night kill them. This is part of XRZ's case on PS, and these parts so far are simply points he disagrees about with PS, and yet he uses it to push him as scum target. ______________________________________________________ These are the points PS joked about that XRZ uses against him. Leaves for a bit then comes back with this. I've thrown him the softest of scum leans and he comes back with a 1 liner. Notice how none of his previous posts have been similar to this at all. This is just terrible on so many different levels. I'm not even sure how to interpret this. It makes you look scummy at worst or a useless townie at best. I have absolutely 0 idea why you would post this if you were a townsperson. Now I ask you again, even if XRZ assumed that the last two were joke posts, how did his first two arguments have any value as argument for PS being scum? If he mentions them to prove that PS is scum, why does he ignore them when he's told that PS was joking about the last two, but the first two still apply, cause they clearly were serious? The answer is that his first two arguments for PS being scum were not just bad, but also were only posted to push a mislynch on PS, they hold no scumhunting value EVEN for the same guy who posted them, and that's why he stops considering them even when the last two arguments were possibly invalid. | ||
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Vivax
22424 Posts
On July 30 2013 01:06 hzflank wrote: Wait a second... You would lynch both Koshi and me? Why? What is it about the interactions between Koshi and I that look scum-scum to you? He said to take this with a grain of salt. So he can tell you his fake reads and still justify it when people realize he's lying. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 30 2013 01:11 Vivax wrote: He said to take this with a grain of salt. So he can tell you his fake reads and still justify it when people realize he's lying. He also mentioned you as a scum read. (Vivax). @JAT In addition to my previous question: Do you possibly think that the conversation this morning between Vivax, Koshi and myself was between 3 scum? If so, how? | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 29 2013 20:45 justanothertownie wrote: Ask me this or any other question again when I'm back at home, please. I will answer them. All I can say at the moment is that hz and you could very well both be scum. I could imagine hz encouraging you to attack him in the thread because it's not very likely for him to get lynched. Besides I don't believe he has any reluctance to bus you hard. I should read thoroughly before I post. Perhaps you have already answered my previous questions, but if you want to elaborate on them then please do so. I have a new question for you. Before starting to play this game, did you read any other games on this forum? If so, would you please link the game. | ||
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Stutters695
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Vivax
22424 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 30 2013 01:50 Vivax wrote: Btw I'll be shooting Vayne tonight, cause he's a jackass. lol, I had the same thought: If I were scum I would so shoot Vayne tonight. Also if I were Vig I would let him survive the night and day vig him 10 seconds into day 2. | ||
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