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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 12:48 GMT
#1201
On July 29 2013 21:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 21:32 Koshi wrote:
Clarity makes posts about everybody, goes in contact with everybody and is speaking his mind. You know that I like that. So Clarity is town. I expect him to create a lot of content Day 2 as well. I can reevaluate but he is town for me.

Interesting. Why am i scum then?

I think you are confused. It was you yelling 15 times I am scum. Not the other way around. Did I mention you were scum once? Maybe once. Twice? Quote plz.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 29 2013 12:50 GMT
#1202
You said "if Paper flips town, one of Vivax / rayn is scum". You do definitely not think Vivax is scum. It's pretty easy to count 1+1 don't you think? Or are you just saying stuff for sake of saying stuff?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 29 2013 12:51 GMT
#1203
On July 29 2013 08:58 Koshi wrote:
1 of rayn and vivax is scum unless paper flips red.

You like that?



There is the quote to be exact.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 29 2013 12:55 GMT
#1204
Rayn, I want you to tell me that thiscase is

1. Scummy, 2. Terrible.

XRZ is basically summarizing points he disagrees about with PS, and using that as reason to push him as scum, then uses any other stuff against him as well. It's not a clean "I think this dude is scum cause I think scum would do xyz and town abc", it's a bunch of posts along with commentary about anything negative they could contain.

If you look at the cases by clarity, JAT and XRZ I posted, you will notice they all have that pattern. The same pattern from clarity's case in the LXI game you also played in, the same case which got clarity lynched (although not just for the pattern, but for some other reasons)..
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 12:55 GMT
#1205
On July 29 2013 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:58 Koshi wrote:
1 of rayn and vivax is scum unless paper flips red.

You like that?



There is the quote to be exact.

Ahyeah that's once. It was somewhat a joke iirc. Something with associations and preflip reads that you were going crazy about.

But at that time I was getting distressed that the Paper lynch was not going through and I typed that without too much reasoning. lol. I think you can quote me saying you aren't scum somewhere as well. But that could have been before that.

Don't be mad that I was unreasonable once.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 12:57 GMT
#1206
You actually called me out for being illogical and unreasonable so many times yesterday. I agree on that one :D
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 29 2013 13:03 GMT
#1207
On July 29 2013 21:55 Vivax wrote:
Rayn, I want you to tell me that thiscase is

1. Scummy, 2. Terrible.

XRZ is basically summarizing points he disagrees about with PS, and using that as reason to push him as scum, then uses any other stuff against him as well. It's not a clean "I think this dude is scum cause I think scum would do xyz and town abc", it's a bunch of posts along with commentary about anything negative they could contain.

If you look at the cases by clarity, JAT and XRZ I posted, you will notice they all have that pattern. The same pattern from clarity's case in the LXI game you also played in, the same case which got clarity lynched (although not just for the pattern, but for some other reasons)..

I don't think the case is necessarily scummy. Bad it is for sure. I think you might be onto something on Clarity. He gave me really bad feelings after i talked with thim when i got back. He didn't feel townie at all there. I can't really explain why but there seemed to be something wrong with him. I agree that his case here looks alot like his case on Sharrant on LXI now that you brought that up, but i am not sure how do Clarity's town cases look like. Did you look at that too?

Who is XRZ?

I don't think JAT is scum, i can explain that better if you really want to hear why.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 13:05 GMT
#1208
hahaha
I had a good night of sleep.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 29 2013 13:13 GMT
#1209
On July 29 2013 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 21:55 Vivax wrote:
Rayn, I want you to tell me that thiscase is

1. Scummy, 2. Terrible.

XRZ is basically summarizing points he disagrees about with PS, and using that as reason to push him as scum, then uses any other stuff against him as well. It's not a clean "I think this dude is scum cause I think scum would do xyz and town abc", it's a bunch of posts along with commentary about anything negative they could contain.

If you look at the cases by clarity, JAT and XRZ I posted, you will notice they all have that pattern. The same pattern from clarity's case in the LXI game you also played in, the same case which got clarity lynched (although not just for the pattern, but for some other reasons)..

I don't think the case is necessarily scummy. Bad it is for sure. I think you might be onto something on Clarity. He gave me really bad feelings after i talked with thim when i got back. He didn't feel townie at all there. I can't really explain why but there seemed to be something wrong with him. I agree that his case here looks alot like his case on Sharrant on LXI now that you brought that up, but i am not sure how do Clarity's town cases look like. Did you look at that too?

Who is XRZ?

I don't think JAT is scum, i can explain that better if you really want to hear why.


It's worth noting that after that game I "ragequit" mafia for like 6 months. It wasn't the case itself that I screwed up it was the timing and the target.
And you're just saying the bad feeling crap cause I gave you shit for your bad list post, which was bad.
Then you got all original and stuff and it was great, if not a bit tunnelly and chaotic nearing lynchtime

Vivax just threw three new wide accusations into the air and hoped something sticked. I'm town, I think JAT is town, I think exa is active but ultimately null.

Vayne do you still think Vivax is scum and if so could you explain it a bit more please?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 29 2013 13:18 GMT
#1210
On July 29 2013 22:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 21:55 Vivax wrote:
Rayn, I want you to tell me that thiscase is

1. Scummy, 2. Terrible.

XRZ is basically summarizing points he disagrees about with PS, and using that as reason to push him as scum, then uses any other stuff against him as well. It's not a clean "I think this dude is scum cause I think scum would do xyz and town abc", it's a bunch of posts along with commentary about anything negative they could contain.

If you look at the cases by clarity, JAT and XRZ I posted, you will notice they all have that pattern. The same pattern from clarity's case in the LXI game you also played in, the same case which got clarity lynched (although not just for the pattern, but for some other reasons)..

I don't think the case is necessarily scummy. Bad it is for sure. I think you might be onto something on Clarity. He gave me really bad feelings after i talked with thim when i got back. He didn't feel townie at all there. I can't really explain why but there seemed to be something wrong with him. I agree that his case here looks alot like his case on Sharrant on LXI now that you brought that up, but i am not sure how do Clarity's town cases look like. Did you look at that too?

Who is XRZ?

I don't think JAT is scum, i can explain that better if you really want to hear why.


It's worth noting that after that game I "ragequit" mafia for like 6 months. It wasn't the case itself that I screwed up it was the timing and the target.
And you're just saying the bad feeling crap cause I gave you shit for your bad list post, which was bad.
Then you got all original and stuff and it was great, if not a bit tunnelly and chaotic nearing lynchtime

Vivax just threw three new wide accusations into the air and hoped something sticked. I'm town, I think JAT is town, I think exa is active but ultimately null.

Vayne do you still think Vivax is scum and if so could you explain it a bit more please?

So you are still holding on to your argument that i should have accused some people who were universally considered as town, let's say Oats and you, so i would have looked more townie to you. Now i looked bad because i said who i thought were scummy and other people were thinking alike. Isn't that a bit ridiculous?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 29 2013 13:23 GMT
#1211
On July 27 2013 18:37 exarezee wrote:
It's difficult to ascertain tone and sarcasm and some of these less subtle jokes on the internet. I even indicated I thought paperscraps was joking early on. But when posts have 0 use and possibly 0 intentions of helping the scum hunt...then it's not really a funny joke anymore. Paperscrap's posts were really poor imo for a townie, but I can accept the possibility that he was "not being serious".


I don't find the indication he's mentioning in his filter, does anyone else? I just see him using PS' joke posts against PS.
That said, I wonder why XRZ doesn't mind Vayne bullshitting up the thread with obvious troll posts up until this point, and only has eyes for PS, that isn't consistent at all with his indication that he thinks bullshit posts aren't townie (the underlined part)

I also don't understand why he says he can accept the possibility of the posts being joke posts when it ends up having no relevance for his read. He still keeps pushing him afterwards.

@ Clarity

I'm not just thowing three accusations and seeing what sticks. I'm seeing three people who I think have a chance at being scum make cases in very similar ways. Going through post by post in their target's filter and summarize things that are supposed to attract people to the wagon.

It's true that what got you caught in LXI wasn't just the style of the case, but it's also true that it's the style of case you made as scum.

If you're indeed town and want me to convince on it, it would be appreciated if you gave me your insight on my other suspects. You can imagine I'm interested in seeing how you guys interact with each other.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 29 2013 13:23 GMT
#1212
On July 29 2013 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 21:55 Vivax wrote:
Rayn, I want you to tell me that thiscase is

1. Scummy, 2. Terrible.

XRZ is basically summarizing points he disagrees about with PS, and using that as reason to push him as scum, then uses any other stuff against him as well. It's not a clean "I think this dude is scum cause I think scum would do xyz and town abc", it's a bunch of posts along with commentary about anything negative they could contain.

If you look at the cases by clarity, JAT and XRZ I posted, you will notice they all have that pattern. The same pattern from clarity's case in the LXI game you also played in, the same case which got clarity lynched (although not just for the pattern, but for some other reasons)..

I don't think the case is necessarily scummy. Bad it is for sure. I think you might be onto something on Clarity. He gave me really bad feelings after i talked with thim when i got back. He didn't feel townie at all there. I can't really explain why but there seemed to be something wrong with him. I agree that his case here looks alot like his case on Sharrant on LXI now that you brought that up, but i am not sure how do Clarity's town cases look like. Did you look at that too?

Who is XRZ?

I don't think JAT is scum, i can explain that better if you really want to hear why.


It's worth noting that after that game I "ragequit" mafia for like 6 months. It wasn't the case itself that I screwed up it was the timing and the target.
And you're just saying the bad feeling crap cause I gave you shit for your bad list post, which was bad.
Then you got all original and stuff and it was great, if not a bit tunnelly and chaotic nearing lynchtime

Vivax just threw three new wide accusations into the air and hoped something sticked. I'm town, I think JAT is town, I think exa is active but ultimately null.

Vayne do you still think Vivax is scum and if so could you explain it a bit more please?

So you are still holding on to your argument that i should have accused some people who were universally considered as town, let's say Oats and you, so i would have looked more townie to you. Now i looked bad because i said who i thought were scummy and other people were thinking alike. Isn't that a bit ridiculous?


No, I'm saying you had no original opinions at the time so your entrance into the thread was weak. That's what you were talking about when you said you had a bad feeling right? Or did you mean something else?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 29 2013 13:23 GMT
#1213
One thing that bothers me about exarezee is that he says he has played 200 games of mafia but has no idea what wifom means..
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 13:24 GMT
#1214
Clarity_nl: Did you read the thread already? If you did what is your opinion on the last 4 pages.
I had a good night of sleep.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 29 2013 13:25 GMT
#1215
I make the same style of case regardless of alignment, we've played in enough games that you should know this.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 29 2013 13:26 GMT
#1216
On July 29 2013 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One thing that bothers me about exarezee is that he says he has played 200 games of mafia but has no idea what wifom means..


So what, is he scum for that?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 29 2013 13:26 GMT
#1217
On July 29 2013 22:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 21:55 Vivax wrote:
Rayn, I want you to tell me that thiscase is

1. Scummy, 2. Terrible.

XRZ is basically summarizing points he disagrees about with PS, and using that as reason to push him as scum, then uses any other stuff against him as well. It's not a clean "I think this dude is scum cause I think scum would do xyz and town abc", it's a bunch of posts along with commentary about anything negative they could contain.

If you look at the cases by clarity, JAT and XRZ I posted, you will notice they all have that pattern. The same pattern from clarity's case in the LXI game you also played in, the same case which got clarity lynched (although not just for the pattern, but for some other reasons)..

I don't think the case is necessarily scummy. Bad it is for sure. I think you might be onto something on Clarity. He gave me really bad feelings after i talked with thim when i got back. He didn't feel townie at all there. I can't really explain why but there seemed to be something wrong with him. I agree that his case here looks alot like his case on Sharrant on LXI now that you brought that up, but i am not sure how do Clarity's town cases look like. Did you look at that too?

Who is XRZ?

I don't think JAT is scum, i can explain that better if you really want to hear why.


It's worth noting that after that game I "ragequit" mafia for like 6 months. It wasn't the case itself that I screwed up it was the timing and the target.
And you're just saying the bad feeling crap cause I gave you shit for your bad list post, which was bad.
Then you got all original and stuff and it was great, if not a bit tunnelly and chaotic nearing lynchtime

Vivax just threw three new wide accusations into the air and hoped something sticked. I'm town, I think JAT is town, I think exa is active but ultimately null.

Vayne do you still think Vivax is scum and if so could you explain it a bit more please?

So you are still holding on to your argument that i should have accused some people who were universally considered as town, let's say Oats and you, so i would have looked more townie to you. Now i looked bad because i said who i thought were scummy and other people were thinking alike. Isn't that a bit ridiculous?


No, I'm saying you had no original opinions at the time so your entrance into the thread was weak. That's what you were talking about when you said you had a bad feeling right? Or did you mean something else?

I form my opinions mostly by talking with other players. I have really hard time to get a grasp of the game by only reading it, which i was forced to do here for the first ~30hours or so.

I don't remember what it exactly was that made me feel worse about you, because there a re more scummy people and i wanted to lynch mafia, so i didn't really care, and now it's not relevant until the end of the night phase.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 29 2013 13:28 GMT
#1218
On July 29 2013 22:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
I make the same style of case regardless of alignment, we've played in enough games that you should know this.

Do you mean me? I don't think i have played with you in any other game than in LXI, or if i have i was scum and didn't read your cases because boring or something.

On July 29 2013 22:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One thing that bothers me about exarezee is that he says he has played 200 games of mafia but has no idea what wifom means..


So what, is he scum for that?

I don't know. Probably not. But still, wtf?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 29 2013 13:29 GMT
#1219
Vivax why do you think FT is town?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 29 2013 13:29 GMT
#1220
Clarity, how happy are you with the suggestion XRZ (exarezee) and Vayne as next two lynches?
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