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On July 29 2013 00:43 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 00:28 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On July 29 2013 00:23 exarezee wrote:On July 29 2013 00:20 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On July 29 2013 00:18 exarezee wrote:On July 29 2013 00:13 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On July 29 2013 00:11 exarezee wrote:On July 29 2013 00:06 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On July 29 2013 00:03 exarezee wrote:On July 28 2013 23:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
@exarezee
Why are you still on this silly idea that having two wagons is a good idea? It is not. It allows scum to control the lynch by swinging their votes on one person or the other.
Here's some advice for you: find your biggest scumread, and vote for them. Savvy? Because I KNOW I'm town. How does this allow the scum to control the lynch? Why is my idea silly? Don't give a blanket statement that "it allows the scum to blah blah." So, if I said paper is scummy, and tofu is scummy, then it's ok? Ideally we want a consensus on votes. Ideally we would like votes spread around 2 people ONLY. We would have way more information than say there were 1 votes on everybody and 2 votes on another that got that person lynched. Because you are trying to pidgeon-hole town into doing what you want. That's not very townie to do, is it? Not everyone is going to agree with BOTH of your lynch candidates. You need to pick one and let the rest of town either agree with you or bring up another wagon. It will happen naturally. "If you try to chase two rabbits, you will lose them both" -Native American Proverb Why would I NOT pidgeon-hole this town into doing what I want. I'm 100% confident that I'm town unless I have completely misread my PM. I have no side agendas. I don't know for a certainty whether any of you have side agendas. This so stupid. LIke I can prove this mathematically for you if you like. You are trying to convince us to kill either FirmTofu or Paperscraps. How are you not trying to pidgeon-hole us? Please tell me how mathematically, we can lynch both of them today. I'd love to see it. How am I pigeonholing when I am trying to convince you to lynch 1 of 2 people whereas most people are trying to convince me to lynch 1 of 1. I'm doing the opposite of pigeonholing. No, you want us to vote for either FirmTofu or Paperscraps. No one else. That's what you are saying when you say that you want 2 specific wagons. You want us to lynch only 2 of 12 possible players today. How scummy is that? Ok, you gotta be trolling me. Let's assume you are town. Who are your personal top 2 scum candidates. Do you want to see them as Wagon #1 and Wagon #2? If not, please tell me why. No, I choose my top scum read and only focus on getting them lynched. I would rather have one of my top scum reads and someone else's top scum read be #1 and #2 because it provokes discussion and it provokes good case making. If you get your top 2 scumreads on the block, you will just sit back and do nothing because you wouldn't care about who gets lynched after that. It's all in the effort of having good discussion. It's ok to be wrong sometimes too. Being wrong doesn't make you scummy all of the time. If someone has a better argument for a lynch candidate, it's not scummy to agree with someone either. It's only scummy when you tell town "we're lynching either FirmTofu or Paperscraps today". By the way, my top 2 reads are Oatsmaster and VayneAuthority. Still. Koshi is getting up there though. Why would you not want a scum/scum wagon? (Even though I don't think paper/tofu is scum/scum but possible). YOU, knowing you are a town would rather chance someone else's scum read getting lynched than your own? You don't know if he has any agenda or not! Of course if you only have one scumread then you just push your single read. This is different after Day 1 when some people flips and you know if you can give more credence to someone's picks. This is just not logical that you would not want two people you think scum not to be the wagons. Of course once my goal of the two wagons is done, I can sit back. How does this make me scummy? I've already identified the best two lynch candidates in Day 1. In an extreme example, suppose I know for certain that both paper and tofu are scum. Should I not want both of them on the wagon?
Because unlike you, I don't tunnel. Therefore I don't know if my "2 scum wagons" are actually scum/scum or if I have misread.
You said that you've identified the best 2 lynch candidates. They may be the best ones to YOU, but to others (like me), they're not the best 2 lynch candidates. Are you going to just sit back, be stubborn, and not listen to anyone else's arguments?
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On July 29 2013 00:39 Vivax wrote:The thing i found kinda townie is how he treated people of the nullish category more favourably than not. Scum needs to paint people scummy and get a mislynch, being easy going on potential mislynches is something that works against that objective, in case they need to switch to them later, or start a counterwagon.
So Paper only giving town reads is townie to you? That's some unusual logic.
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On July 29 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Anyone wanna kill stutters?
Yeah, i'd join that boat as well. He is capable of much more d1 when he's town, and having seen him play scum lately, i'm kinda confident i can read him. I would actually enjoy if he posted some more to give us the chane to read him better though, elsewise it's indeed more like a lurker lynch, and it's hard to win people for that. This isn't plurality: /
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Exactly you made my point. Being wrong does not make me scum. They're my 2 best lynch candidates and I will try my best to get one of them lynched. If at the end of the day, neither are a lynch candidate, then I will move my vote onto someone that matters. Being stubborn is saying I'm voting papers! not gonna move!
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On July 29 2013 00:49 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 00:39 Vivax wrote:On July 29 2013 00:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Vivax why is paper town? The thing i found kinda townie is how he treated people of the nullish category more favourably than not. Scum needs to paint people scummy and get a mislynch, being easy going on potential mislynches is something that works against that objective, in case they need to switch to them later, or start a counterwagon. So Paper only giving town reads is townie to you? That's some unusual logic.
Is it so unusual that you find it scummy?i'm curious to see you get into the spotlight, and not shout from the sidelines. If you think paperscraps or me are scum, then i'm all ears, cause your post suggests that exactly.
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On July 29 2013 00:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
I meant FT exarezee
When paper flips town man. You guys gonna be sad.
I don't really like/understand his logic. I do think papers still is a higher chance of scum than tofu though. I've answered every single one of his points. In the case he made against me, I believe he quoted 5 or 6 posts I made and dissected them. 3 of them were completely inaccurate. And I addressed the other points he made. He gets some town points for "when he found my scum slip" but 2 other people have found my scum slips too and i gave town points to them as well. Eventually I have to stop giving points for that kinda thing and just completely ignore it.
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I'm curious to see why you can't find Paperscraps' scum reads...
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On July 29 2013 00:49 Vivax wrote:Yeah, i'd join that boat as well. He is capable of much more d1 when he's town, and having seen him play scum lately, i'm kinda confident i can read him. I would actually enjoy if he posted some more to give us the chane to read him better though, elsewise it's indeed more like a lurker lynch, and it's hard to win people for that. This isn't plurality: /
It's not that "he's a lurker", yeah he hasn't posted much but he has shown to be around. two hours ago he said he was catching up so I'll give him a little bit but day one he made two random general accusations and an apology post.
Today he has done nothing.
On July 29 2013 00:49 exarezee wrote:
Exactly you made my point. Being wrong does not make me scum. They're my 2 best lynch candidates and I will try my best to get one of them lynched. If at the end of the day, neither are a lynch candidate, then I will move my vote onto someone that matters. Being stubborn is saying I'm voting papers! not gonna move!
Got my words on cardboard got his picture in my hand saying, if you see this guy can you lynch him like I planned?
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And Captain Jack -
Please don't make it look like I'm delusional and the only one voting paper. He's getting the most heat, and deservedly so too. So, he's the best lynch to some others (unlike you)
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On July 29 2013 00:53 cDgCorazon wrote:
I'm curious to see why you can't find Paperscraps' scum reads...
Who are you?
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On July 29 2013 00:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 00:49 justanothertownie wrote:On July 29 2013 00:39 Vivax wrote:On July 29 2013 00:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Vivax why is paper town? The thing i found kinda townie is how he treated people of the nullish category more favourably than not. Scum needs to paint people scummy and get a mislynch, being easy going on potential mislynches is something that works against that objective, in case they need to switch to them later, or start a counterwagon. So Paper only giving town reads is townie to you? That's some unusual logic. Is it so unusual that you find it scummy?i'm curious to see you get into the spotlight, and not shout from the sidelines. If you think paperscraps or me are scum, then i'm all ears, cause your post suggests that exactly.
I don't know about you. You are null to me and I am unsure if this kind of logic is scummy or just different from my own.
Papers could very well be scum - that's why my vote is on him.
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On July 29 2013 00:53 cDgCorazon wrote:
I'm curious to see why you can't find Paperscraps' scum reads...
I did find them, Captain.
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##Vote: Oatsmaster
I give up. I don't want to play this game anymore.
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On July 29 2013 00:57 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster
I give up. I don't want to play this game anymore.
Why not?
Also, I commented a lot of Paper's scum reads in my big post. Paper's scum reads are part of the problem.
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On July 29 2013 00:57 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster
I give up. I don't want to play this game anymore.
good attitude bro.
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On July 29 2013 00:55 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Fuck this game.
now now.
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Ok so CJS is cora. Now, Im inclined to think he might be scum. I dunno though, Cora why do you ragequit?
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EPT
