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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 21:50 GMT
#833
On July 29 2013 06:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 06:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
He wants to push HIS wagon over other peoples wagons? The scummy bastard.

That's not the point.

The point is he is not interested in finding other scums and is controlling the thread to make sure the atmosphere is not ideal to find other scums.

How many people here don't lean scum on paper? Oats exarezee Malongo Myself.
hz keeps shooting everything down and pushes 1 fucking wagon. Who of us is so fucking certain about 1 wagon that he is almost blinded towards all other wagons.

Koshi you can't lynch more than 1 scum / day. There is no reason to push multiple lynches by yourself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:02 GMT
#844
On July 29 2013 07:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 06:58 hzflank wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Why are we ignoring Malongo?


Do you want me to fully answer him now? His problem with me stems from philosophical differences regarding lynching lurkers. After that he clutches at straws. He seems to genuinely think that I am scum, though. I never responded to him earlier because until this page he talked about me and not too me, and since I have spent a lot of time replying to people doing that this game there was no town benefit to messing up the thread discussing philosophical differences.

Do you want me to fully answer every point that you and Malongo just made?

Unless there are more votes going to pile up for you I guess I don't see why you should. I still don't see why you think Paper is so scummy for the pas 40 hours though.

lol, you don't want your top scumread to contribute? wtf, maybe we should lynch Koshi.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:03 GMT
#847
On July 29 2013 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 hzflank wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Why are we ignoring Malongo?


Do you want me to fully answer him now? His problem with me stems from philosophical differences regarding lynching lurkers. After that he clutches at straws. He seems to genuinely think that I am scum, though. I never responded to him earlier because until this page he talked about me and not too me, and since I have spent a lot of time replying to people doing that this game there was no town benefit to messing up the thread discussing philosophical differences.

Do you want me to fully answer every point that you and Malongo just made?

Unless there are more votes going to pile up for you I guess I don't see why you should. I still don't see why you think Paper is so scummy for the pas 40 hours though.

lol, you don't want your top scumread to contribute? wtf, maybe we should lynch Koshi.

To be more precise. You don't want your top scumread to contribute towards your other scumread.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Koshi

That's enough bullshit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:13 GMT
#862
Koshi:

First he says "who are you to decide who do we lynch. -> Implies there are other lynch candidates than FT/JAT/Paper
Then he questions hz, his scumread about Malongo, or rather asks why are we ignoring Malongo.
When hz answers him about Malongo, he says "no you should not talk about him".

This makes no sense from town PoV. scum.
On July 29 2013 07:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 06:58 hzflank wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Why are we ignoring Malongo?


Do you want me to fully answer him now? His problem with me stems from philosophical differences regarding lynching lurkers. After that he clutches at straws. He seems to genuinely think that I am scum, though. I never responded to him earlier because until this page he talked about me and not too me, and since I have spent a lot of time replying to people doing that this game there was no town benefit to messing up the thread discussing philosophical differences.

Do you want me to fully answer every point that you and Malongo just made?

Unless there are more votes going to pile up for you I guess I don't see why you should. I still don't see why you think Paper is so scummy for the pas 40 hours though.

He does not want to see what hz (his top scumread) has to say about Malongo (his other scumread). If he thinks hz and Malongo are scum he should be interested what hz thinks about Malongo based on the quote above. Instead he is only talking about Paperscraps.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:15 GMT
#864
I think we should kill Koshi or Paper. Maybe FT is town after all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:20 GMT
#868
On July 29 2013 07:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi:

First he says "who are you to decide who do we lynch. -> Implies there are other lynch candidates than FT/JAT/Paper
Then he questions hz, his scumread about Malongo, or rather asks why are we ignoring Malongo.
When hz answers him about Malongo, he says "no you should not talk about him".

This makes no sense from town PoV. scum.
On July 29 2013 07:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 hzflank wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Why are we ignoring Malongo?


Do you want me to fully answer him now? His problem with me stems from philosophical differences regarding lynching lurkers. After that he clutches at straws. He seems to genuinely think that I am scum, though. I never responded to him earlier because until this page he talked about me and not too me, and since I have spent a lot of time replying to people doing that this game there was no town benefit to messing up the thread discussing philosophical differences.

Do you want me to fully answer every point that you and Malongo just made?

Unless there are more votes going to pile up for you I guess I don't see why you should. I still don't see why you think Paper is so scummy for the pas 40 hours though.

He does not want to see what hz (his top scumread) has to say about Malongo (his other scumread). If he thinks hz and Malongo are scum he should be interested what hz thinks about Malongo based on the quote above. Instead he is only talking about Paperscraps.


Lots of leaps in here.

He's asking why WE (you and me, the two active people who replied to the case in thread) ignored malongo.
Then hz asks if he should respond to the case NOW and he says no.
You're just misreading stuff I think, or I'm misunderstanding your case

hz answers Koshi's post where he talks about Malongo and does not address Malongo at all. If you were Koshi would it be fishy to you (as hz is your top scumread)? I would sure as hell know what he thinks about Malongo, but he doesn't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:29 GMT
#876
On July 29 2013 07:20 Vivax wrote:
Rayn, what do you make of PS pushing JAT.

I'm more sure of JAT being scum than PS, and that makes me pretty doubtful.

I am not so sure about that any more tbh. I don't like the fact that either one of them has not been here for a very long time.
On Paper i really didn't like his proposition to vig me or Stutters. I have clearly been unable to post and that is not alignment indicative. Stutters has good posts imo. If he thinks one of us is mafia, then vote for us instead of someone else. I think at that time his vote on JAT was just a "throwaway vote".

The only thing that's fishy overall is that people are willing to discuss Paper but not JAT.

What do you think about Koshi and his latest contributions?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:39 GMT
#881
Why is noone other than Clarity commenting my case on Koshi?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#892
Koshi is not dumb. He just isn't. I said that in I swear 2 and while i was mafia i was not lying.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:54 GMT
#896
I also don't like the fact that FT has disappeared when i unvoted him..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:57 GMT
#898
On July 29 2013 07:50 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone other than Clarity commenting my case on Koshi?


Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First he says "who are you to decide who do we lynch. -> Implies there are other lynch candidates than FT/JAT/Paper


With all due respect Rayn, I doubt that anyone has a solid town read on you at this point and therefore it is correct that Koshi should question this. Personally I did think that there was a fourth lynch candidate, which was Koshi.

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then he questions hz, his scumread about Malongo, or rather asks why are we ignoring Malongo.
When hz answers him about Malongo, he says "no you should not talk about him".


Koshi's whole game seems to be that he thinks I am scum but he cannot figure out how to get me lynched. He might of just thought that there was no point in me discussing it today as I was not going to be lynched anyway. To be honest, that is what I thought.

My take on Koshi is simple at this point. The only useful thing he has done all game is attempt to push a scum read on me. As I have said, his whole game revolves around him thinking that I am scum. If he genuinely believes that I am scum up until now then I can believe that he might be town. Because Koshi has done nothing that did not involve me, I cannot find any other reasons as to why I believe he is scum.

Conclusion: If Koshi really thinks that I am scum then I do not have a scum read on Koshi.

The parts you quoted from my post are meant to be together. That's a follow up. Of course Koshi is allowed to not have a town read on me, and even if he did he is allowed to disagree with me on lynch targets. But if he disagrees he is contradicting himself in what he says later on. Things like: "You can't get X lynched" and "Don't talk about them, there is no point". On top of that he has no intention to figure out what his scumread thinks about his another scumread.

That is enough. He is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:58 GMT
#902
JAT is probably town btw.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:59 GMT
#903
Can you guys just vote for Koshi please?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 23:10 GMT
#914
On July 29 2013 07:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 hzflank wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Why are we ignoring Malongo?


Do you want me to fully answer him now? His problem with me stems from philosophical differences regarding lynching lurkers. After that he clutches at straws. He seems to genuinely think that I am scum, though. I never responded to him earlier because until this page he talked about me and not too me, and since I have spent a lot of time replying to people doing that this game there was no town benefit to messing up the thread discussing philosophical differences.

Do you want me to fully answer every point that you and Malongo just made?

Unless there are more votes going to pile up for you I guess I don't see why you should. I still don't see why you think Paper is so scummy for the pas 40 hours though.

lol, you don't want your top scumread to contribute? wtf, maybe we should lynch Koshi.

To be more precise. You don't want your top scumread to contribute towards your other scumread.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Koshi

That's enough bullshit.

Paper has never been my scumread. Ohhh you are a funny one!

On July 29 2013 08:03 Koshi wrote:
hahahahahahahaha.
So wait. This time my read isn't good because?

Paper looks town to me.
Hz looks scum to me.

I have no reads otherwise except I always like a VA lynch.

So. Why is this bad?

On July 29 2013 08:07 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Paperscraps

Is that enough for everyone?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 23:13 GMT
#920
Because he is scum. duh.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 23:14 GMT
#927
Koshi pushes a lynch that is not going to happen for a long time. Then he consolidates on a town-read. Yeah. That seems legit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 23:15 GMT
#929
I am gonna be so fucking mad if you guys don't vote for Koshi today.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 23:16 GMT
#934
Also FirmTofu's last post is horrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 23:17 GMT
#936
I have a 95% feeling this lynch is gonna be a mislynch. I'll be back in 15min. Now sauna.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 23:26 GMT
#952
Paperscraps has not claimed any role to lure out a cc / save him if he is mafia. That's incredibly bad scumplay to not claim a PR in a closed setup game.

He has to be town.

On July 29 2013 08:19 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a 95% feeling this lynch is gonna be a mislynch. I'll be back in 15min. Now sauna.

Wait, what happened in between the last two pages that shifted your read so dramatically? You were pursuing Paper and now suddenly you think Koshi is confirmed scum?

Paper got back and posted in a non-scum manner. Why am i not allowed to change my opinion?

On July 29 2013 08:23 Koshi wrote:
Let me explain how rayns thinks:

Koshi tunnels hzflank.
I think that hz is town.
Koshi must be scum.
I will tunnel Koshi.
My play looks perfect town.

This is so wrong i don't even know what to say.
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