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On August 06 2013 02:05 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 02:04 Stutters695 wrote:On August 06 2013 01:12 Stutters695 wrote:
Oats, can you explain why I'm in every scum team you can think of? Especially since you were asking people to stop speculating around the night actions. What makes me scum? Oats pls I can answer that for you, if you like. If you have followed the game and thoroughly read Oats' filter you would know 
So the reasons he has wanted to lynch me are
I didn't cause a no-lynch d2. Then tries to get me lynched for a "gut feeling" he's been pushing since. Did I miss something? He's provided no valid reason I'm scum yet I'm his only consistent scum read. I'm starting to doubt my meta read on Oats. Need to weigh him compared to
JAT.
So again, Oats, what makes me scum?
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On August 06 2013 02:58 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 02:05 hzflank wrote:On August 06 2013 02:04 Stutters695 wrote:On August 06 2013 01:12 Stutters695 wrote:
Oats, can you explain why I'm in every scum team you can think of? Especially since you were asking people to stop speculating around the night actions. What makes me scum? Oats pls I can answer that for you, if you like. If you have followed the game and thoroughly read Oats' filter you would know So the reasons he has wanted to lynch me are I didn't cause a no-lynch d2. Then tries to get me lynched for a "gut feeling" he's been pushing since. Did I miss something? He's provided no valid reason I'm scum yet I'm his only consistent scum read. I'm starting to doubt my meta read on Oats. Need to weigh him compared to JAT. So again, Oats, what makes me scum?
Oats has spent much of he game building up town reads. He now has enough town reads that everyone else must be scum. You are not one of his town reads.
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On August 05 2013 17:01 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 16:55 FirmTofu wrote:On August 05 2013 14:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
pretty ok shot Hzflank.
##vote stutters
Oats, you should probably work on reading the thread. Why do you think this is an OK shot when you have had me as a town read for the majority of the game? Also, why are you voting stutters without waiting for my flip? ?? Its a good shot because then we dont waste today lynching you stutters is scum in every variation of the scumteam I can think of.
No, he hasn't eliminated it down to 3 or he wouldn't have said this. He needs to explain, let him.
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Stutters, do you think Oats is mafia?
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I'm starting to think it's a possibility. Still not sure on the third.
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Well in my eyes Koshi and FT are pretty much confirmed mafia. I am going to be so disappointed if they are not, because they are not even trying.
Do you think Oats would not shoot OR roleblock me on N2? Would you take that chance as mafia if you know the dude has claimed a cop, claimed a green on a green, and claimed to check you that night? Can you explain that? Can you point out something from his posting that supports that, because it really is crucial for that scum-read. Other than that i really could see him being mafia, because he´s been beyond useless.
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Rayn, is that question only for Stutters?
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On August 06 2013 04:06 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm starting to think it's a possibility. Still not sure on the third.
WIll you expand on this:
Who are the first two?
Who do you think the third might be?
Why?
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@Tofu,
do you still think Koshi is town? If so and we lynch him we will lose. I am willing to discuss other lynch candidates if you are around.
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I really hate this when people throw suspicions around and are not willing to follow them up. We can´t besically win this game as pretty much everyone is doing so especially now when it´s crucial to make a good case.
hzflank, i would like to hear the answer from Stutters first. You and everyone can comment on that later, i will do so too. He is the one that brought it up and now it´s a fucking time to follow up on his suspicion somehow.
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Cool, I would like to hear a lot more from Stutters too. One way or another he is central to solving the game.
I think that I have it (the game) solved, I just cannot confirm it to a satisfactory level unless certain people start to post more.
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FT & Koshi for sure. Third is either JAT or Oats. Oats because the only reason I haven't pushed his lynch was my meta read and that he's pushing me for an easy mislynch worries me. JAT due to PoE and some parts of his posting bug me, like how focused he's been on solving the game with pre-flip associations.
Going to have to do a serious side by side to figure that one out.
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Stutters, can you answer Rayn's question about why a scum-Oats could possibly let Rayn get a check off N2?
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On August 06 2013 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well in my eyes Koshi and FT are pretty much confirmed mafia. I am going to be so disappointed if they are not, because they are not even trying.
Do you think Oats would not shoot OR roleblock me on N2? Would you take that chance as mafia if you know the dude has claimed a cop, claimed a green on a green, and claimed to check you that night? Can you explain that? Can you point out something from his posting that supports that, because it really is crucial for that scum-read. Other than that i really could see him being mafia, because he´s been beyond useless.
You'd have died earlier if I was scum, regardless of any PR. There is a reason you got shot in Basterd :p
Seriously though, I would have shot or RBd you, the scumteam is retarded for not doing it.
Only reason Oats wouldn't do the same is if he rolled GF. How likely that is, I have no idea.
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That's rubbish Stutters. You are FoSing Oats and also leaving yourself a reason to not actually vote for him.
You just did the same with JAT too.
Oats being GF is not the only reason that scum-Oats would of let Rayn get his check off. Try again.
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On August 06 2013 05:12 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well in my eyes Koshi and FT are pretty much confirmed mafia. I am going to be so disappointed if they are not, because they are not even trying.
Do you think Oats would not shoot OR roleblock me on N2? Would you take that chance as mafia if you know the dude has claimed a cop, claimed a green on a green, and claimed to check you that night? Can you explain that? Can you point out something from his posting that supports that, because it really is crucial for that scum-read. Other than that i really could see him being mafia, because he´s been beyond useless. You'd have died earlier if I was scum, regardless of any PR. There is a reason you got shot in Basterd :p Seriously though, I would have shot or RBd you, the scumteam is retarded for not doing it. Only reason Oats wouldn't do the same is if he rolled GF. How likely that is, I have no idea.
That is pretty shitty Stutters, considering you wanted to kill JJD instead of me in Basterd N1.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Stutters
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Okay, you are clearly lying here. These are your last posts from Basterd scum QT:
Stutters
07-02-2013
04:00 PM ET (US)
So I'm thinking we shoot JJD and Vivax
Stutters
07-02-2013
01:34 PM ET (US)
Maybe Rayn?
Stutters
07-02-2013
01:33 PM ET (US)
Or depending on if we miss the vet tonight we could counterclaim a townie who seems scummy but that's a huge risk too.
You don´t even think i am a threat, but a scummy target to counterclaim. It´s the rest of the scumteam who wants me dead after you have afk´d for the rest of the night.
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Eh I didn't remember something I said in a QT two months ago, doesn't make me scum. You'll also notice from that game however that you weren't suggested because we could have fake claimed against you and the mass claim was happening.
Instead of losing the game over something so fucking stupid, how about we work towards solving this?
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We are working towards solving this. As much as you may not like it, that does involve working with some associations btw, as we are at MYLO. What I am trying to work out is whether you are scum or town.
We are lynching Koshi today. He has basically claimed scum at this point, imo. But since Koshi has left the game there is nothing we can do except work towards the D5 lynch.
I don't particularly want to lynch FirmTofu on D5. I know that some other people will argue with me about that. but there is no point in discussing that with you (Stutters) right now as I know that you will say that you want to lynch FT and even if you are town then at this point you are so convinced that FT is scum that I wont get anything good from you (in terms of reading your alignment).
Therefore: I want to talk about lynching someone other than FT or Koshi. But you are sitting on the fence. I need to know whether you want to lynch JAT, Oats or someone else, and I need to know exactly why.
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Fair enough, let me dive them for a bit and we'll work on this.
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