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On July 29 2013 05:44 Koshi wrote: So. I am getting more and more interested in lynching hzflank. Is there a chance that I can get more votes on the guy or shouldn't I bother? You should not bother if you can't make a rock-solid case. In any ways i'm interested in hearing what you have against him. What do you think about his "Oats case" post?
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rofl. Tofu is wishy-washy as fuck regarding Paper. Maybe they are both scum. :D
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On July 29 2013 05:49 Koshi wrote: Rayn you remember that game in which you were scum together with Artanis and Z-Boson? That game in which I had this feeling about Artanis and you said "Koshi, you are not this bad, you must be scum"?
I got same feeling bro. I don't understand. Did you just claim mafia?
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EBWOP: Oh sorry. I misread the last line. I thought you were saying you are thinking what i said there. :D
But please elaborate. You got a feeling that i am mafia? Why?
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I would like to see that case too. Gut-feelings can go right but it's hard to convince other people without actual content.
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On July 29 2013 05:58 Clarity_nl wrote: ... This makes sense to me, the scum perspective. As town it does not. Low post count, low content, implying he's wrong yet pushing for it anyway. He scum yo.
If you had looked into any recent game Malongo has played you would see that this is characteristic to his town play. In other words, the stuff you are pointing out does not make him mafia.
You clearly do not want to lynch FT. Go look at JAT/Paper please.
Koshi, what do you think of this:
hzflank - I had a big big red read on hzflank before this: "I did start to prepare a case on Oats yesterday but I cancelled it shortly after starting. As I was writing it I became less sure that Oats was scum and I did not want to post a case that I did not believe in myself. That is fairly normal for me as I seem to be good at convincing myself that someone is not scum." That basically proves that hzflank is town, that is so incredibly genuine.
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It's time to start consolidating people.
Anyone with no really good case should vote for FT/JAT/Paper and tell why the target is a best lynch. Do not discuss useless stuff, otherwise we'll end up with a no-lynch which is a big no no.
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Vivax talk to me. What are your current thoughts?
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On July 29 2013 06:16 Clarity_nl wrote: Rayne, you would compare Malongo in this game to Malongo in "I swear this is normal Mini Mafia 2" and say they're similar? He is talking strongly about his read, he is engaging people in back and forth questions, and then he martyrs himself by the end of it! (btw his read ended up being right, and you believe hz is town..) I meant he does stupid stuff as town. See our QT, where he says he has no real reads. See also how he shoots mer 1 hour into the game. Also look at Sicilian where he flipped. On D1 he posted nothing but useless stuff. I am not saying he sure is town but i don't see anything scummy from him. Just dumb.
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On July 29 2013 06:18 Stutters695 wrote: We can continue this at night if you want to Rayn, that took me longer than I wanted to type up.
Onto today's lynch, Paper is my choice. Because Rayn has a good track record and we think similarly, if Paper doesn't get traction I'll sheep him onto FT. I don't want a no lynch. This type of posts is what i want from everyone. Clear stance and no but's.
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On July 29 2013 06:19 VayneAuthority wrote: when's deadline btw? If I have to consolidate on some shit tier lynch I will but vivax is a pretty good start Vayne Vivax is not getting lynched today. Can you give your thoughts on current lynch candidates?
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On July 29 2013 06:21 VayneAuthority wrote: I won't be here for the deadline then. What are my lynch options if I can't get vivax today? FT/Paper/JAT.
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On July 29 2013 06:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 29 2013 06:21 VayneAuthority wrote: I won't be here for the deadline then. What are my lynch options if I can't get vivax today? FT/Paper/JAT. And hz Do you seriously think you can get him lynched without providing a proper case?
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On July 29 2013 06:24 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 29 2013 06:21 VayneAuthority wrote: I won't be here for the deadline then. What are my lynch options if I can't get vivax today? FT/Paper/JAT. I'm pretty sure you're the only one voting me. Could we get a vote count please? Yeah but there are like 8 players who think you are scummy... Why the fuck should i not push my top scumread?
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On July 29 2013 06:27 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 29 2013 06:24 FirmTofu wrote:On July 29 2013 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 29 2013 06:21 VayneAuthority wrote: I won't be here for the deadline then. What are my lynch options if I can't get vivax today? FT/Paper/JAT. I'm pretty sure you're the only one voting me. Could we get a vote count please? Yeah but there are like 8 players who think you are scummy... Why the fuck should i not push my top scumread? When the fuck did I say you shouldn't push your top scumread? I know I'm town. I know you're wrong. So obviously, I think you should get your ass off of me... You do this every game rayn. Try reading my filter objectively for once. You should realize you are one of the top lynch candidates based purely on what people think of you. You still haven't defended you against my case. Why?
Afaik you are not voting for anyone atm. Who do you want to lynch? You seem to think many people are scummy but you are not voting. Why?
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And "you do this every game" is not a defense, it's bullshit and the fact i am attacking you does not make you town in THIS game. It's a cheap defense that in my eyes makes you more scummy.
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On July 29 2013 06:31 Clarity_nl wrote: There's been no one trying to lynch anyone other than FT Paper and JAT today, at least nothing else got traction. I'll consolidate, obviously, and rayn has a point about Malongo as I read more of his other games, but this is bitter. I'm not so sure about Vivax, I've had him as null all day and vayne's case is 90% meta, so let's give him another day.
I guess out of those three I would prefer Paper...? I mean his wagon started early and he has looked scummy (although more bad than scum), plus he probably has the most association attached to him which'll help day 2. I felt like Koshi was getting scummier and scummier but the way he's just insistently and badly pushing for an hz lynch just makes no sense to me from a scum perspective. You are right on the bolded part. This is what makes me feel better about Koshi. Unless at least 2 of FT/Paper/JAT are scum, but that's WIFOM before flips, so i'd rather not discuss it further.
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On July 29 2013 06:34 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 06:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 29 2013 06:27 FirmTofu wrote:On July 29 2013 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 29 2013 06:24 FirmTofu wrote:On July 29 2013 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 29 2013 06:21 VayneAuthority wrote: I won't be here for the deadline then. What are my lynch options if I can't get vivax today? FT/Paper/JAT. I'm pretty sure you're the only one voting me. Could we get a vote count please? Yeah but there are like 8 players who think you are scummy... Why the fuck should i not push my top scumread? When the fuck did I say you shouldn't push your top scumread? I know I'm town. I know you're wrong. So obviously, I think you should get your ass off of me... You do this every game rayn. Try reading my filter objectively for once. You should realize you are one of the top lynch candidates based purely on what people think of you. You still haven't defended you against my case. Why? Afaik you are not voting for anyone atm. Who do you want to lynch? You seem to think many people are scummy but you are not voting. Why? I'm voting exarezee. You have no case. You just said you think I'm scum because exarezee is town to you and my points against him are bad. Now, you can hold that stance. That's fine. However, you can't accuse me of not defending myself from it. Like I said, I'm looking into a possible Malongo/Koshi/Paper scum team. I'll be back soon. Until then, hold off on your bullshit. Your case on exarezee is bullshit that hinders on him being wishy-washy and you assuming the rest of the stuff in the case. After your case you yourself do the same thing you are accusing exarezee of -> your stance on JAT.
That's the case. Why you call exarezee scummy for stuff you yourself do right after?
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hmm.. I actually would give Koshi more town points from his case on hz. Although i think he is wrong..
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On July 29 2013 06:44 Clarity_nl wrote: He wants to push HIS wagon over other peoples wagons? The scummy bastard. yeah, just because of that. That's so dumb it can't be scum. :D
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