Obviously agreed on Vivax.

I don't think CJS is as firm town as you do. Now that we know it's Cora his vote on Oats is a lot weirder considering he should know how oats plays.
Makes him pretty null. Wouldn't be surprised if he's scum but I have my sights set elsewhere right now. If he's town I think I know why he pushed it but I want to hear his answer so he doesn't just tell me what I want to hear.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 20:35 GMT

#760

Typing up more, didn't mean to hit send.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 21:16 GMT

#792

Continuing with Rayn:

Paperscraps: see my read I posted, I think he's scum, not null.

Malango: no idea, as I explained. Leave him for the vigis imo.

Koshi: I could easily see him being scum, especially after NWM. Mostly a meta read since he always is confusing as fuck and kinda useless. I would lynch him if Paper doesn't get traction but I'm way more confident about him.

FT: I haven't looked at him too much. I'll have to get back to you on that. I had him kinda null but your post makes sense.

JAT is another one I haven't really dove. He could be scum but he's not huge on my radar. He could easily be a misunderstood town. I think we'll see with more posts from him.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 21:18 GMT

#796

We can continue this at night if you want to Rayn, that took me longer than I wanted to type up.

Onto today's lynch, Paper is my choice. Because Rayn has a good track record and we think similarly, if Paper doesn't get traction I'll sheep him onto FT. I don't want a no lynch.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 21:47 GMT

#830

##vote: paperscraps

Just so the vote count will be accurate.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 22:48 GMT

#888

Like I said Rayn I don't get him. Based off of NWM he should be an obvious lynch but I heard his game before NWM was equally terrible (as town). Your case would be a lot more powerful on just about anyone other than him(maybe not Mal) but I don't think it's enough to lynch him over Paper.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 22:51 GMT

#891

Also lol wtf, either that is the scumslip of the year or that made zero sense.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 23:01 GMT

#905

On July 29 2013 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is not dumb. He just isn't. I said that in I swear 2 and while i was mafia i was not lying.

Hmm you're right. Tbh I didn't really pay attention to him in I swear because of what I heard in the NWM postgame. His reads were good in I swear.

I could get behind this then, he really doesn't have an excuse in that case.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 23:42 GMT

#994

##unvote
##vote: firmtofu

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 23:43 GMT

#998

Will switch back obv if this isn't happening.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 23:50 GMT

#1014

Paper is either making a great play as scum or I was completely wrong about him. Really doubting this lynch now.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 23:51 GMT

#1016

On July 29 2013 08:50 FirmTofu wrote:

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If paper flips green, I'm not sure what to think. I'm pretty sure that you and Malongo are town though.

What. Lynch FT for fucks sake.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 23:55 GMT

#1024

I'm like 99% sure paper is town now. Wouldn't a no lynch be better if people won't switch?

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 28 2013 23:57 GMT

#1030

##unvote
##vote: Paperscraps

Still open to switching if 8 people are here.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 29 2013 16:31 GMT

#1318

Awake and catching up.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 29 2013 16:58 GMT

#1323

Not sure I get the shooting Vayne if scum part but absolutely agreed on using it as a day vig. If you fire at night you aren't 100% confirmed due to a potential janitor but if you fire during the day you are.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 29 2013 18:45 GMT

#1355

On July 30 2013 01:53 hzflank wrote:
Stutters' filter looks horrible.

Stutters disagrees with both of Tofu's scum reads. Stutters also says that he is going to check out FT a bit closer.

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Stutters later says he has not yet looked at Tofu but has him as null.

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Stutters thinks that Paper is scum but is willing to sheep Rayn onto Tofu.

Show nested quote +

Stutters is also willing to sheep Rayn onto Koshi.

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Stutters changes his mind regarding a no lynch.

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Stutters, you obviously had a very strong town read on Rayn as soon as he joined the game. Why?

Considering that you disagreed with both of Tofu's scum reads and said that you were going to look into him, why did you not look into him until Rayn prompted you to?

You also seemed to completely sheep Rayn as your read on Paper changed. In fact I would say that since Rayn began to participate all you did was just completely sheep him.

Would you be a darling and perhaps provide an original opinion in future? Thanks.

You don't know me that well apparently. I'm really bad about making promises in this game(mafia in general) and not following through. It's a bad habit but when I say I'm going to check someone out that usually means when I get around to it.

I was 100% willing to sheep Rayn on Tofu. We have a similar thought process(imo) and by thinking Rayn is town/generally has good reads I'm willing to follow him in a situation like that because we needed a lynch and it felt like both of them couldn't be scum. So getting behind FT still would have shed some light on Paper.

You're misrepresenting me on Koshi. He's scummy as shit, but he always is. I was talking with Rayn, he suggested I look at I Swear 2 again since I've kind of just ignored Koshi since NWM. After I went back and actually checked his play there, he has no excuse for this game.

You're also misrepresenting my post about the no-lynch. After Paper started posting right before the deadline I changed my mind and thought he was town. I didn't think a no-lynch was a great idea there but I did think it was a decent idea compared to hitting someone I now thought was town. I didn't pull the trigger on it because we did gain a bunch of info and there was the small chance he was making a ballsy scum play. In the future I'll probably go for the no lynch.

Regarding my town read on Rayn: I'm pretty bad at reading him TBH. I generally have a solid town read on him if he is there. If he is lurking he's probably scum, but what convinced me he was town was his list post. Unlike 99% of list posts that just say "I think this dude is scum because he lurks." Not only was his reasoning very similar to my thought process(outside of the discussion him and I had about a select few) he clearly was putting a significant amount of effort into the post and wanted to follow up on questions.

I like bouncing discussion with people who have an open mindset(BH in Les Mis, multiple games with Marv, etc)

Hope that clears it up. I'll drop a knowledge bomb on who to lynch once u get it typed up, work is busy.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 29 2013 19:57 GMT

#1411

Rayn you gonna be here for a bit?

Stutters695

2610 Posts

July 29 2013 20:03 GMT

#1415

Cool. I want to bounce some thoughts related to FT off you? What are your thoughts on him? I'm like 90% sure he's scum from some stuff he posted around/after the lynch.