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On August 04 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not understand why CJS is not calling Clarity out hard for his shenanigans, because if he was town he should.
Rayn, your confirmation bias is showing.
What if I did not care that my town read tried to get me lynched and by the time I had gotten back we had lynched scum? He's not scum in my book and there has been nothing else that would point me to thinking he is scum.
Unlike the rest of you, I'm not using shitty heuristics to make my scumreads. I'm taking the players I think are the scummiest and voting for them. I'm playing it simple, and you guys are overcomplicating things.
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On August 04 2013 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are scum you can just concede as if XRZ flips mafia i am gonna lynch you and CJS right after.
Rayn just stop posting. Your confirmation bias is so so so bad and you're basically screwing town over.
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On August 04 2013 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 03:35 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 04 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not understand why CJS is not calling Clarity out hard for his shenanigans, because if he was town he should. Rayn, your confirmation bias is showing. What if I did not care that my town read tried to get me lynched and by the time I had gotten back we had lynched scum? He's not scum in my book and there has been nothing else that would point me to thinking he is scum. Unlike the rest of you, I'm not using shitty heuristics to make my scumreads. I'm taking the players I think are the scummiest and voting for them. I'm playing it simple, and you guys are overcomplicating things. Why does Clarity pushing a lynch on you for no reason (no-lynch) instead of his scumread FT make sense to you?
Because he thought FT wasn't getting lynched, so he wanted to lynch the player that YOU were saying was going to be lynched next. He had the SAME reads as you, he just wanted a lynch and decided to take it into his own hands.
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After this game, I'm going to nominate Rayn's filter for "biggest WTF moment" on the mafia awards.
I'm done with this shit. See you all after XRZ flips town.
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On August 04 2013 03:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 03:40 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 04 2013 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 04 2013 03:35 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 04 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not understand why CJS is not calling Clarity out hard for his shenanigans, because if he was town he should. Rayn, your confirmation bias is showing. What if I did not care that my town read tried to get me lynched and by the time I had gotten back we had lynched scum? He's not scum in my book and there has been nothing else that would point me to thinking he is scum. Unlike the rest of you, I'm not using shitty heuristics to make my scumreads. I'm taking the players I think are the scummiest and voting for them. I'm playing it simple, and you guys are overcomplicating things. Why does Clarity pushing a lynch on you for no reason (no-lynch) instead of his scumread FT make sense to you? Because he thought FT wasn't getting lynched, so he wanted to lynch the player that YOU were saying was going to be lynched next. He had the SAME reads as you, he just wanted a lynch and decided to take it into his own hands. He just said he had no intention of lynching you?!?!!?
On August 04 2013 03:35 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not understand why CJS is not calling Clarity out hard for his shenanigans, because if he was town he should. Rayn, your confirmation bias is showing. What if I did not care that my town read tried to get me lynched and by the time I had gotten back we had lynched scum? He's not scum in my book and there has been nothing else that would point me to thinking he is scum. Unlike the rest of you, I'm not using shitty heuristics to make my scumreads. I'm taking the players I think are the scummiest and voting for them. I'm playing it simple, and you guys are overcomplicating things.
It doesn't matter. I thought he was town then and still think he is town now.
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Is it good for scum to all hard-defend each other? Use your brain Rayn.
K I'm out for realsies.
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On August 04 2013 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Unbelievable.
Not unbelievable if anyone in this game was using their brains...
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On August 04 2013 12:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 10:05 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 04 2013 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Unbelievable. Not unbelievable if anyone in this game was using their brains... You are the fucking guy who told us all to to get off XRZ, for no reason, JUST TOWN! I hate you cora, i seriously hate you. fuck you asll. i hope i die. IDGAF anymope!
I did not say "XRZ is town because he is town". I refuted every single one of your points and gave possible scenarios where you did not even try to think about the possibility of them.
Town did not fail you, YOU failed the town and carried on a long line of confirmed towns who used their status to make the town even more confused than before.
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On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.
Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me.
Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.
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On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum. Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me. Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible. If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together?
I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam.
If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at:
JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo
There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out.
Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4.
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On August 05 2013 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum. Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me. Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible. If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together? I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam. If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at: JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out. Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4. This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this.
Dude, your vote is even worse than Koshi's. In 5 posts, you go from "XRZ is town to me" to "XRZ is scum". The 5 posts inbetween were set-up speculation and using the same heuristics as everyone else who voted for XRZ. You even said that the thought process being used was ridiculous, yet you voted for XRC...scum trying to blend in?
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On August 05 2013 00:55 hzflank wrote:
Cora, do you think that Clarity, Rayn and myself are town? If so, there are only 4 possible people who can be scum (you think Oats is town), and those 4 include FT and Stutters. If FT and Stutters are not scum together then Koshi and JAT are scum.
I am totally down for a Koshi lynch. Anyone want to give me a good reason to not lynch Koshi?
I just stated my "scumteam"...
Koshi/JAT/Stutters/Malongo
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On August 05 2013 01:00 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 05 2013 00:48 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 05 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.
Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.
One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc? I don´t think that´s the case here. Mafia thought vayne + XRZ are cops. You being a doc fit´s nowhere in there as hzflank is vet. I don´t think scum would assume 4 power roles, unlkess you actually area doc in which case mafia having a GF + roleblocker is not 100% out of the question. I meant that I'm a doc instead of vayne being a cop. So like, they expected me to protect you so they roleblock xrz and kill vayne (since hz is vet)On August 05 2013 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.
Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.
One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc? Clarity, you cant say shit like 'oats look scum off his posts' without backing it up. AND YOU HAVENT. Now either back it up or take it back. I have. If you refuse to read that's fine. Do you think I'm town? You should. Am I pushing for your lynch? I'm not. Are you helping town by pushing this? You're not. Why would they not hit you and vanilla!vayne instead? Yep, true. Was hoping someone who I didn't consider confirmed town would answer honestly  Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:57 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum. Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me. Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible. If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together? I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam. If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at: JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out. Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4. This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this. Dude, your vote is even worse than Koshi's. In 5 posts, you go from "XRZ is town to me" to "XRZ is scum". The 5 posts inbetween were set-up speculation and using the same heuristics as everyone else who voted for XRZ. You even said that the thought process being used was ridiculous, yet you voted for XRC...scum trying to blend in? If you think he's scum you shouldn't try to convince him that he's scum. 
One at a time buddy...trying to lynch the entire scum team at once didn't really work for us D3
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On August 05 2013 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:
No, it is just that I thought what hz said (the whole speculation stuff) made sense at that time and if xrz was town it would come to the current situation which didn't made much sense to me because I know I'm not scum and there are only a few other possibilities none of which I really thought are likely so I figured xrz might be scum. It was bad reasoning but it was my reasoning.
So instead of thinking about your town read on XRZ for the first 2 days, you decided to 180 your read just off of what hz said?
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Literally the first half of D3 was persecuting XRZ with bad logic and the second half was "1/2/3/4 are scum, we're voting them next"
Worst. Lynch. Ever.
Ok that's the end of me talking about the XRZ lynch.
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On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple. If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.
Did you really just say this
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On August 05 2013 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I´m going to check myself for sanity, obviously. It might even return "detective" which would mean i would be transferred into being a role-cop. Much better chances of finding a roleblocker that way.
Yeah and then I'm going to get ridiculously drunk and 180 on all of my reads and then lynch another townie.
HERP DERP
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On August 05 2013 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 03:29 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 05 2013 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I´m going to check myself for sanity, obviously. It might even return "detective" which would mean i would be transferred into being a role-cop. Much better chances of finding a roleblocker that way. Yeah and then I'm going to get ridiculously drunk and 180 on all of my reads and then lynch another townie. HERP DERP lol, i was not trying to moch you, honestly. I just found that game and everything that happened to you incredibly wrong. It was so hilarious you got the result from your self check and then town proceeded to lynch you. I even said in the obs QT "this is so absurd Cora has to be telling the truth".
Lol we can talk about it later lol. It's hard to tell if you're joking or making fun of my over the internet.
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@Koshi
You played the farthest thing imaginable from "perfect" D3. You literally just sheeped Rayn and hz and then lurked again, only to de-lurk when you had 3 votes on you. How is that a "perfect town" D3?
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