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On August 03 2013 00:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
I can agree to at least one thing. If a GF flips, oats is cleared.
I also believe there's no reason to consider lynching me until at least two scum flipped non roleblocker.
I'm warming up to a FT lynch, have to reread some stuff though. If FT flips anything but a scum PR then xrz is cleared I believe.
I'm around for questions.
Up for a Koshi lynch? Getting rid of question marks has been very good for us once. Why not try again?
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On August 03 2013 00:09 exarezee wrote:
if koshi is scum, i'm sure tofu is scum.
i'd rather get a tofu lynch in case tofu flips town which should get rid of this stupid scum case on me.
If Tofu flips scum Rayn will never shut up =(
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On August 03 2013 00:11 exarezee wrote:
rayn's gonna be dead. so we don't need his clustermess in the thread.
If Rayn keeps playing like he has the past 12 hours, he will be around for a long time, whether he is cop or not.
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On August 03 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon and Clarity, be honest with me here.
Do you guys really think exarezee is so sure of himself and has such big balls that he fakeclaimed a cop to ensure a lynch on his scumread over another scumread? Because to me that makes absolutely zero sense.
Didn't he claim cop when the votes were swinging over to me? He said he did it because he didn't want a no lynch and he wanted Malongo dead.
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On August 03 2013 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:22 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon and Clarity, be honest with me here.
Do you guys really think exarezee is so sure of himself and has such big balls that he fakeclaimed a cop to ensure a lynch on his scumread over another scumread? Because to me that makes absolutely zero sense. Didn't he claim cop when the votes were swinging over to me? He said he did it because he didn't want a no lynch and he wanted Malongo dead. There was never gonna be your lynch. It was either FT or Malongo or noone and i am pretty sure i could have convinced people to vote for FT.
Well Clarity started that stupid-ass train on me. I'm not sure how many votes it got before XRZ's fakeclaim.
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On August 03 2013 00:27 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:26 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 03 2013 00:22 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon and Clarity, be honest with me here.
Do you guys really think exarezee is so sure of himself and has such big balls that he fakeclaimed a cop to ensure a lynch on his scumread over another scumread? Because to me that makes absolutely zero sense. Didn't he claim cop when the votes were swinging over to me? He said he did it because he didn't want a no lynch and he wanted Malongo dead. There was never gonna be your lynch. It was either FT or Malongo or noone and i am pretty sure i could have convinced people to vote for FT. Well Clarity started that stupid-ass train on me. I'm not sure how many votes it got before XRZ's fakeclaim. You weren't gonna get lynched stop being a baby about it
Well then why'd you start the train in the first fucking place?
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On August 03 2013 00:31 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:29 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 00:26 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 03 2013 00:22 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon and Clarity, be honest with me here.
Do you guys really think exarezee is so sure of himself and has such big balls that he fakeclaimed a cop to ensure a lynch on his scumread over another scumread? Because to me that makes absolutely zero sense. Didn't he claim cop when the votes were swinging over to me? He said he did it because he didn't want a no lynch and he wanted Malongo dead. There was never gonna be your lynch. It was either FT or Malongo or noone and i am pretty sure i could have convinced people to vote for FT. Well Clarity started that stupid-ass train on me. I'm not sure how many votes it got before XRZ's fakeclaim. You weren't gonna get lynched stop being a baby about it Well then why'd you start the train in the first fucking place? Wanted to see who would switch since FT wasn't happening.
And out of all of the people you chose, you chose me...?
Whatever, that's in the past and I don't think you are scum for it.
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On August 03 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay guys, read this very carefully.
Put yourself into scum position. There are 3 PR claims. 2 cop and 1 vet. If all of us are town, mafia needs to assume all the claims are true. My intentions for claiming were very clear. hz´s intentions were very clear. XRZ got scum lynched. Now comes N2. Mafia can deal with both of the cops by roleblocking the other one and killing the other one. There is no possibility of 4 town roles, anyone who says so is fucking stupid. Mafia can´t possibly assume vayne is a power role unless they know XRZ is not a real cop. Mafia cannot know XRZ is not a real cop unless he is mafia. Killing vayne over 2 claimed cops is beyond retarded and the only possible explanation for that is that i look worse than XRZ, mafia knows XRZ is not a cop and they do think vayne is in fact cop/doc.
This all means XRZ has to be mafia. He just has to be, there is no other explanation.
You realize that scum kills for reasons other than bluehunting...
So your theory is null.
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On August 03 2013 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:37 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay guys, read this very carefully.
Put yourself into scum position. There are 3 PR claims. 2 cop and 1 vet. If all of us are town, mafia needs to assume all the claims are true. My intentions for claiming were very clear. hz´s intentions were very clear. XRZ got scum lynched. Now comes N2. Mafia can deal with both of the cops by roleblocking the other one and killing the other one. There is no possibility of 4 town roles, anyone who says so is fucking stupid. Mafia can´t possibly assume vayne is a power role unless they know XRZ is not a real cop. Mafia cannot know XRZ is not a real cop unless he is mafia. Killing vayne over 2 claimed cops is beyond retarded and the only possible explanation for that is that i look worse than XRZ, mafia knows XRZ is not a cop and they do think vayne is in fact cop/doc.
This all means XRZ has to be mafia. He just has to be, there is no other explanation. You realize that scum kills for reasons other than bluehunting... So your theory is null. Explain why mafia killed vayne, the dude noone listened to, over 2 cops.
Mafia would kill Vayne so everyone would look at his reads and think that they killed him because he was right. Thats a definite possibility.
Mafia would also not kill you because you said you were checking Oats, and if they knew Oats was green you were very likely to call him GF and call for his lynch, which would result in Oats getting lynched and then you getting lynched, thus winning the game for the scum.
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On August 03 2013 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 00:39 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 03 2013 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 03 2013 00:37 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:On August 03 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay guys, read this very carefully.
Put yourself into scum position. There are 3 PR claims. 2 cop and 1 vet. If all of us are town, mafia needs to assume all the claims are true. My intentions for claiming were very clear. hz´s intentions were very clear. XRZ got scum lynched. Now comes N2. Mafia can deal with both of the cops by roleblocking the other one and killing the other one. There is no possibility of 4 town roles, anyone who says so is fucking stupid. Mafia can´t possibly assume vayne is a power role unless they know XRZ is not a real cop. Mafia cannot know XRZ is not a real cop unless he is mafia. Killing vayne over 2 claimed cops is beyond retarded and the only possible explanation for that is that i look worse than XRZ, mafia knows XRZ is not a cop and they do think vayne is in fact cop/doc.
This all means XRZ has to be mafia. He just has to be, there is no other explanation. You realize that scum kills for reasons other than bluehunting... So your theory is null. Explain why mafia killed vayne, the dude noone listened to, over 2 cops. Explain why mafia killed vayne over ONE cop. So mafia does not believe i am a cop when i claim a green check on a guy who is town. Makes sense?
Why would a cop check Vayne? Especially over Firmtofu, your #1 scumread.
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On August 03 2013 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU KILL A DUDE WHO HAS NO GUARANTEE OF BEING BLUE OVER 2 CLAIMED BLUES?=??????
WHY THE FUCK NOONE IS THINKING WITH THEIR BRAIN!!"
Are you drinking again?
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You guys are silly.
Keep It Simple Stupid
Scum killed Vayne because he was either right or they wanted to paint his scumreads in red and make it look like they killed Vayne because he was on the right track.
Scum roleblocked XRZ and not Rayn because XRZ had so much more town cred and they knew Rayn was going to get a green check on Oats and still call him gf, allowing scum to refute Rayn's claim.
It's not truly simple, but it's a lot better than the giant ass spider web that Rayn is trying to create.
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On August 03 2013 01:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
I find that hard to believe Cora since even if Vayne was right he was not actively pushing his reads.
Surely a cop would have been a more obvious target?
Who would ever believe Rayn? Ever since he tried to get FT's lynch, he's been playing super pissed off and erratic. Why would scum put that down? They want to create chaos in the town, and what better way could they accomplish that by having the confirmed cop posting like a maniac?
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On August 03 2013 02:05 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 01:59 exarezee wrote:
You know rayn has no case against me if there is a roleblock. You know there is a roleblock. So....your logical conclusion is that I as scum had a roleblock but chose not to use it on rayn for what reason? It still makes sense with a roleblock, scum just withholds it. This also means that if xrz flips scum, oats is town.
And if you are all wrong and XRZ flips town?
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Oh come on you can't sit there and call XRC bad without reading the last 5-6 pages of Rayn's filter.
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There's a possibility but I think Rayn is most likely cop.
Rayn, please stop posting. You don't need to push lynches every single post. Your filter is almost 30 pages. It's ridiculous.
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You guys are silly. XRZ is so obviously town it hurts that you guys are voting for him.
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On August 03 2013 01:46 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
You guys are silly.
Keep It Simple Stupid
Scum killed Vayne because he was either right or they wanted to paint his scumreads in red and make it look like they killed Vayne because he was on the right track.
Scum roleblocked XRZ and not Rayn because XRZ had so much more town cred and they knew Rayn was going to get a green check on Oats and still call him gf, allowing scum to refute Rayn's claim.
It's not truly simple, but it's a lot better than the giant ass spider web that Rayn is trying to create.
You are both town in this scenario...
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On August 03 2013 03:20 hzflank wrote:
CJS, all things considered to do still think that Exar is town?
Do you think a VT would of claimed a guilty check 30 minutes before the lynch deadline when we are 1 mislynch from MYLO?
Do you think that it is normal that VT Exar did not think I was town after he got roleblocked?
I think Exar is town still.
He wanted a lynch and he had a scumread on Malongo so he claimed and lynched scum. It worked. If you had doubts about the claim you shouldn't have voted for Malongo. The fact that we are still talking about this is kind of silly.
I'll look into the last part but playing like an idiot isn't a scumtell, as Rayn is very near confirmed town...
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On August 03 2013 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So your thought process is that mafia killed vayne, a person who had absolutely zero credibility to convince anyone in this game even when Malongo flipped red, just because he was on the right track or wanted to paint his targets red (i was also one of them, remember). They did kill vayne over 2 claimed cops and let me have a check on Oats because i would call that green check scum afterwards? You are not making very much sense here.
The only reason vayne was killed was because it was a blue snipe and XRZ is the only person who could possibly assume vayne is blue.
It's a scenario where you both are town. Just think about it and see if it makse sense.
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