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On August 02 2013 08:57 Holyflare wrote: Mega analysis post coming up by the way, I shall also try and vindicate myself within it for your peace of mind slam. Looking forward to this.
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
On August 02 2013 10:03 StiMaDDict wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 08:57 Holyflare wrote: Mega analysis post coming up by the way, I shall also try and vindicate myself within it for your peace of mind slam. Looking forward to this.
Yeh, hopefully it'll summarise everything so far and open up some new alleyways for discussion tomorrow so that even if I die the information is not in vain.
On a lighter note....bbcode is a bitch, and alakaslams post count is also a bitch........
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On August 02 2013 08:57 Holyflare wrote: Does 3/3 problems mean 3 mafia or any assortment ie 2 mafia and 1 neutral?
Mega analysis post coming up by the way, I shall also try and vindicate myself within it for your peace of mind slam.
There are 3 players in the "Problems" faction. There can be any number of any of the other roles, including third-party roles.
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This is a very active night.
I want to point out that slam and umasi bounded too quickly, i am not saying any of you two is scum. What i am saying is that if one of you is scum, the other would never seen it coming and that would in turn confuse us. You two are not keeping an watchful eye on each other.
@Umasi that was a total dick move to switch last hour with no explination then afk, frankly at that hour since he claimed a VT and not a Blue, i would be happy to lynch him to test reaction.
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I recognize it was a total dick move, but I think it was the right move. In retrospect, of course it was the correct move, to no lynch and not lynch him, because he was town. I'll go reread slam and see what I come up with, you have a point that I've been kind of taking him as town for no reason.
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(fyi, in retrospect means nothing and you can pretty much ignore that entire sentence. Feel free to not ignore it though?)
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Well crap....
I am going to assume for balance reasons that there is a serial killer. That's 2KP.... with at least 4 total scum players that's 7 townies left. There could however be more than 4 scum...
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The thing is i through he was town too but no one can be sure, and there is no way to ensure a lynch on any one else. I know i might be stubborn but i just cant agree with a peaceful no lynch.
I will be honest through, i dont think Sc_am is scum at all. First of all, hes obviously lurking and not busy. In that case, hes scum team would pressure him to play and give advice. I think you are much likely to do something, if you are 2 other scum and a coach on another forum pressuring you. And his lack of motivation is a tell of a horrible town.
i need to form a opinion on scums through, i will go dive filter for a bit.
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On August 02 2013 10:35 Holyflare wrote: Well crap....
I am going to assume for balance reasons that there is a serial killer. That's 2KP.... with at least 4 total scum players that's 7 townies left. There could however be more than 4 scum... I doubt multiple SK.
Keep at your big post.
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uuuh, holy flare there are three of three problems left "scum" are "problems" there are currently eleven players, any number of them may be third party, and there are three scum players left alive.
---------------------stuff above this is what we concretely know. Stuff below it is my own thoughts.
Also, balance does not dictate that there is a serial killer, 3 scum in twelve players is not imbalanced afaik. There could be a serial killer though! Serial killers should be null on balance (afaik again) because they're their own faction.
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Btw any suggestion whos filter you want me to dive first and give opinion on?
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
I refer to SK's and people that win with mafia as scum umasi (just by past experience as it's town vs scum). For sure it won't be multiple SK's but there are Traitors and Survivors in the mix too.
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Infii, deus are my two, scam doesn't have much to dive :< holyflare could wait till after his post, but I don't think he's scum regardless.
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oh. alright, I've always referred to mafia as scum, not general anti townies as scum, my bad :<
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On August 02 2013 10:39 Nightcat99 wrote: The thing is i through he was town too but no one can be sure, and there is no way to ensure a lynch on any one else. I know i might be stubborn but i just cant agree with a peaceful no lynch.
I will be honest through, i dont think Sc_am is scum at all. First of all, hes obviously lurking and not busy. In that case, hes scum team would pressure him to play and give advice. I think you are much likely to do something, if you are 2 other scum and a coach on another forum pressuring you. And his lack of motivation is a tell of a horrible town.
i need to form a opinion on scums through, i will go dive filter for a bit. And enjoy.
But that's not true, a better scum than I told me in qt: (not a quote but a paraphrase rather)
"No, lurk- you need to reign it in big time alakaslam, you are ok for now but that was dangerously unhelpful to our cause. When you are newb scum anything you say will be scummy, and usually town will pick on other town mistakes versus lurkers. When that starts to happen, I can manipulate them easier by giving assent and adding fuel to the case. If someone wants to lynch you, you may defend yourself however you see fit. Wait until that happens. Don't get modkilled ofc."
I had already gone nuts though, so I replied "bus me".
But you see that scum won't necessarily say "post more", "read the thread" etc, though I did as scum.
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On August 02 2013 10:40 Nightcat99 wrote: Btw any suggestion whos filter you want me to dive first and give opinion on? Check out RDO with me?
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the problem i have with RDO is that he is basically just responding to those, he doesnt have a original post where he tell us he through and he through process.
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On August 02 2013 10:30 Nightcat99 wrote: I want to point out that slam and umasi bounded too quickly, i am not saying any of you two is scum. What i am saying is that if one of you is scum, the other would never seen it coming and that would in turn confuse us. You two are not keeping an watchful eye on each other. Agreed.
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Vatican City State733 Posts
As you can see I've been trying to pick up my posting in the past couple of pages. Started slow obviously.
I'm concerned a little about Stim still. I haven't seen an in-depth post from him, he's mostly just one liners, and nobody has called him out on it at all. I understand why you've looked at some of my posts, since most of them were pretty reactionary, but why has he gotten so little attention?
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Ok. Actually I'd like everyone's thoughts on him, his filter is a page +2 posts.
I think he is orange, which would mean he is playing a fair to good scum game or a fair to bad town game. Anyone disagree? I think he has made contributions, but contributions that scum could make. It seems like first he felt deus would be a better mislynch than reps and still possible to pull off, based on Umasi and I voting him, but came with assent too late. Then, seeing that wasn't going to happen, was content with reps)squishy. He found reps filter to be not just bad town (town consensus) but rather shady as hell- or, really scummy. (To be fair, same of deus. Who hasn't posted much night phase. Could still be scum but he isn't scum to me yet.) Good reason to then be content with a reps)squishy lynch.
Of course, there could be town motive. I want no one other than RDO to point this out, if he can't think of a town motive...
If someone else can and posts it that ammo is lost.
So nobody but RDO may answer or else is scummy: RDO, why did you act as you did? As you are town, stating the truth will absolve this "case".
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